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Christ, this is just depressing. There's going to be hundreds or thousands of dead people and the situation if anything is only going to deteriorate for ordinary Palestinians. Not that that wasn't going to be the case with the status quo, but it might have taken a bit longer. I wish I believed in hell so the settlers could burn there.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 21:20 |
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Here's an interesting bit of background on the Temple Mount, written not long before all this blew up. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4701944,00.html quote:Fear and loathing at the Temple Mount And just because I love you guys so drat much, I'm subjecting you all to the comments section whether you like it or not! Hatred is the enemy of peace, so know thy enemy. I've removed the names, since Ynet requires you to tie a Facebook account to your comments. And by the way, this isn't solely an indictment of the Jewish side. I guarantee you that for each and every one of the sentiments expressed in these comments, there's people writing essentially the same things in Arabic on right-wing Arab sites. Hatred is the enemy, and this hatred rubs deep, on both sides; Jewish hatred is just somewhat more likely to be in English. quote:_____
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 21:32 |
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https://www.facebook.com/tachles15/videos/403434583150333/?fref=nf As long as we're sharing facebook stuff. Some young person with an excellent Harvard accent presents his plan of action for if/when he becomes the prime minister. Make housing affordable, bring Israel into the 21st century, a "real" peace plan that takes into consideration the realities of the region, and (cue the biggest ironicat) put a stop to terrorist attacks and make sure people "stop living in fear". 1995.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 22:30 |
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If it wasn't bad enough when Jerusalem's mayor said it, Defense Minister Yaalon joins with this hot take:quote:Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon on Friday urged all civilians with license to carry firearms to arm themselves so as to prevent attacks by Palestinians. How do you read this? Looks to me he's giving civilians carte blanche to perform extra-judicial executions. Not that it matters, but it's not even within his purview, as technically that kind of recklessness would fall to the Minister of Internal/Homeland Security, Gilad Erdan, or perhaps to Ayelet Shaked, the Justice Minister. Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Oct 9, 2015 |
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It was hard to read this today and not read it as basically POGROM POGROM POGROM: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-palestinian-protests.htmlquote:“We feel that the intifada has begun,” said Mohammad Zeid, 23, an activist at Birzeit University, on a hill outside Ramallah. He said the demonstrations were a way to continue momentum, adding, “This is a letter to our political leaders: We don’t want submission, which is what they think peace is.”
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 01:00 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It was hard to read this today and not read it as basically POGROM POGROM POGROM: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-palestinian-protests.html What do you mean by that? Do you think Palestinian demonstration and violence and the IDF and settlers is only because the later are Jewish?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 01:42 |
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snyprmag posted:What do you mean by that? Do you think Palestinian demonstration and violence and the IDF and settlers is only because the later are Jewish? To add to that, do you not get that vibe when you read about Jewish mobs in Israel shouting 'Death to Arabs' while instigating Israeli police to kill Arabs? If not, it would be great if you could explain why you think that is.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 02:11 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It was hard to read this today and not read it as basically POGROM POGROM POGROM: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-palestinian-protests.html Not a single occurrence of the word "Jew" in the text, and all the quotes are about not submitting to the occupation/defending Palestine. So far the people being herded with skunk water, tear gassed, and fired at with rubber bullets are the Palestinians. Why the hell would you read it as POGROM POGROM POGROM? Do you have reading comprehension issues? Are you dyslexic?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 02:31 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It was hard to read this today and not read it as basically POGROM POGROM POGROM: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-palestinian-protests.html Maybe because you're apparently delusional?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 05:59 |
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It's a war of genocide. They're determined to kill everyone by celebrating these disgusting fanatics.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 07:18 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It's a war of genocide. They're determined to kill everyone by celebrating these disgusting fanatics. I assume by "disgusting fanatics" you are referring to the settlers pushing people off their land and killing anyone who tries to fight back?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 07:20 |
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No, I'm referring to the people who verbatim sound like Cossacks getting ready to burn down a village.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 07:21 |
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Disregard.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 07:29 |
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The Palestinians are not going to genocide the Israelis. It's not going to happen.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 08:00 |
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XMNN posted:The Palestinians are not going to genocide the Israelis. It's not going to happen. Like, they literally can't... This is such a weird way to stain the memory of the genocides, no matter how many angry Palestinians you find...they literally do not have the ability to wage a "genocidal war" on anyone, let alone Israel.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 08:05 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:No, I'm referring to the people who verbatim sound like Cossacks getting ready to burn down a village. So people like defense minister Yaalon, quoted earlier on this page? Did you link the wrong article and quote the wrong person in your earlier post?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 08:14 |
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Like, they literally can't...
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 08:38 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It's a war of genocide. They're determined to kill everyone by celebrating these disgusting fanatics. Yeah I heard that they call Muhanad Halabi "greatest Palestinian alive, not in one way but in every way" and "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect" and "holier than all the martyrs of the Nakba." What a bunch of horrible, bloodthirsty savages.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 09:27 |
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https://www.facebook.com/QudsN/videos/1013236718753229/ I don't even.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 09:40 |
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Jesus Christ, I'd seen another perspective and I'd thought the truck just missed him, not that he went under! The other video was a lot clearer about just how far out of his way the driver went to run the guy down...
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 10:04 |
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I can't watch that video without thinking 'POGROM, POGROM, POGROM'.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 10:46 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:No, I'm referring to the people who verbatim sound like Cossacks getting ready to burn down a village. So, while you're back, can you please tell me what you think about Jewish mobs roaming streets in the occupied west bank and in Israel who chant 'death to Arabs', who have actually gone on beating rampages and have instigated people with weapons to shoot Arabs? Can you tell me what you think about the authorities of a state joining in to protect Jewish settlers while they burn down olive groves? Can you tell me what you think of Jewish perpetrators of violence rarely if ever getting caught and prosecuted, whether military or civilian? Can you tell me what you think about Israeli military or police disguising themselves as Palestinians, instigating stone-throwing and then shooting boys at point-blank range?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 10:51 |
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Hong XiuQuan posted:Can you tell me what you think about Israeli military or police disguising themselves as Palestinians, instigating stone-throwing and then shooting boys at point-blank range? You what?
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 10:55 |
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Friendly Tumour posted:You what? https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/video-israel-plants-armed-stone-throwers-among-palestinian-protesters And just for other references: Israeli soldiers protecting settlers: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/charlotte-silver/video-israeli-soldiers-protect-settlers-they-attack-palestinians Death to Arabs - you should just search for the work of David Sheen: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/palestinian-lives-dont-matter-us-media That's not even to mention the rhetoric from Israeli leaders. Deputy defence minister has just said Palestinians should be enslaved. Hong XiuQuan fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 10, 2015 |
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Hong XiuQuan posted:https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/video-israel-plants-armed-stone-throwers-among-palestinian-protesters cool
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 11:12 |
emanresu tnuocca posted:Please let me know when we can say Intifada, or when we come up with a new term for this thing. What's unique about this situation is that the government officials on both sides are going to be unable or unwilling to manage it. Abbas seems to have grown weary of suppressing unrest in the west bank, and Netanyahu can't politically afford to put a leash on the settlers. This will continue until it breaks out into a full scale rebellion, in the west bank at least. What remains to be seen is how Hamas/Gaza plays into this.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 12:38 |
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ANIME AKBAR posted:What remains to be seen is how Hamas/Gaza plays into this. This is a completely wild guess but I think it's going to involve IDF Air Force in a big way.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 12:50 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:No, I'm referring to the people who verbatim sound like Cossacks getting ready to burn down a village. So these guys then. And by the by, as a direct descendant of Ukrainian Jews who fled to America in one of the last Tzarist pogroms, gently caress off with using our heritage to justify Israel's disgusting horseshit.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 12:50 |
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Hong XiuQuan posted:I can't watch that video without thinking 'POGROM, POGROM, POGROM'. Technically I'm pretty sure a pogrom is when non-state parties engage in crimes against minorities while the state either actively supports the crimes or supports them tacitly through inactivity, i.e, like that video from Btselem where settlers throw stones at Palestinian farmers and the IDF stands and protects the settlers. I'd say this is more or along the lines of a war crime or a dictatorship curbing dissent through the application of violence. More Tiananmen square than Kishinev, is what I'm saying.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 13:22 |
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Two more stabbings already today.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 14:12 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:No, I'm referring to the people who verbatim sound like Cossacks getting ready to burn down a village. So you are talking about the Settlers.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 14:14 |
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Volkerball posted:Two more stabbings already today. More blood for the blood God! Man if only the UN could take control of this piece of poo poo land and get an actual adult in charge.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 16:19 |
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computer parts posted:So you are talking about the Settlers. It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize.
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Kim Jong Il posted:It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize. It would be great if the people who want the world to be ruled by PR agencies could be hanged from the neck until dead, too. But alas, you assholes will continue to exploit human pain and suffering in your insane quest for dominion over the human soul for quite some time now. Away with you, totalitarian!
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 17:03 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize. Which is why every single someone points out the atrocities of Israelis, you either don't engage or clamp your hands over your ears and go "LALALALA BUT THE PALESTINIANS ARE BAD TOO!"
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 17:06 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize. Ah, so it's their own fault that they're being oppressed by the Israeli government, gotcha. edit: If they didn't want their land occupied and their people murdered, they shouldn't have been living there
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 17:12 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize. You still haven't said whether or not you think 'POGROM, POGROM, POGROM' when Jewish mobs roam the streets of Jerusalem looking for Arabs to beat while chanting 'death to Arabs'. Please tell us why, if not.
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# ? Oct 10, 2015 17:14 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize. Hmm yes, the Palestinians are monsters who don't understand the murder bad. *walks around chanting "Death to Arabs"* *brings some death to some Arabs* *votes for party that wants to use air force to bring death to Arabs more often than they currently do* Why don't they value life like we do???
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Kim Jong Il posted:It sure would be great if this thread could learn that bad behavior on one side doesn't excuse bad behavior on the other. It's an important point that Palestinians don't seem to realize and/or care how their behavior and rhetoric will be interpreted in the west or Israel, which will exacerbate the eventual response. Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize. No one is asking you to praise them. Do you believe that Palestinians are uniquely genocidal in nature? Are settlers chanting "death to Arabs" and attack or support attacking Palestinians less genocidal than Palestinians on the flip side? Your posting in this thread seems to indicate you believe this, but whenever you're asked to make a straightforward statement on the matter, you get evasive. It's a very simple question. If the behavior of one side doesn't exclude the other, then why are you exclusively condemning one side?
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Kim Jong Il posted:Glorifying murderers makes you a lot easier to demonize.
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