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E1M1 posted:the most empowering thing: telling victims that they're too frail to report their rapes and too helpless to seek justice against their attackers Arguing against reporting the rapes is outright perpetuating rape culture in the modern patriarchy
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Don Tacorleone posted:Arguing against reporting the rapes is outright perpetuating rape culture in the modern patriarchy What if you do so in the hope that this helps?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:02
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One time a guy humbly and seriously told me that 80% of college age women had been raped and I was like yes, of course, this is obvious, we do live in a village in a wartorn part of Liberia.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:05
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this_is_hard posted:No, not really. Saying it is the responsibility of the rape victim to prevent further attacks from the rapist is shifting the burden of responsibility from the perpetrator to the victim. Being raped is an incredibly traumatic and damaging experience and nearly every individual reacts differently. Choosing not to go forward and deal with even more trauma of a trial, cross examination, public scrutiny (just look at this thread!) is most certainly a factor why some do not. Do you feel the same if we replace the word rape with any other crime? What about just an assault, or robbery, or whatever? If not, what makes rape so super special and different from, say, attempted murder? Is it the sex thing that gets your puritanical blood all worked up?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:06
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Don Tacorleone posted:Arguing against reporting the rapes is outright perpetuating rape culture in the modern patriarchy The rape waves get so strong sometimes that I can't even, I can't even, online
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spacetoaster posted:Do you feel the same if we replace the word rape with any other crime? What about just an assault, or robbery, or whatever? He already went over this, rape victims get antagonized more than other victims, so obviously they don't have to report anything and we need to move directly to the Minority Report method of investigation e: almost forgot to say I hope this helps, that was a close one 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:08
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City of Tampa posted:i'm reading all these retarded rape posts and still nobody has explained why a victim of a crime doesn't have a responsibility to protect potential future victims by reporting said crime and cooperating with an investigation unless you are severely autistic it shouldn't be hard to understand why someone who has just experienced extreme emotional and physical trauma wouldn't want to put their entire character on trial and that all of that is multiplied exponentially if you work in a "sexually immoral" job and the person you're accusing is powerful and well liked big unless I guess
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Dec 1, 2015 22:09
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wiffle ball bat posted:Please close this thread fyodor I'm too bored and weak to not tell everybody my rape opinions, and apparently I'm not alone gbs irc told me to keep it open
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Dec 1, 2015 22:10
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mr. mephistopheles posted:unless you are severely autistic it shouldn't be hard to understand why someone who has just experienced extreme emotional and physical trauma wouldn't want to put their entire character on trial and that all of that is multiplied exponentially if you work in a "sexually immoral" job and the person you're accusing is powerful and well liked Instead of that what she should do is fire off a tweet, it's a good compromise.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:11
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fyodor posted:gbs irc told me to keep it open GBSIRC: Yeah you keep that thread open, we're going to go in there whenever we want, hahaha, that's how we like it, nothing that bitch thread says is gonna stop us, lol, bro
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Dec 1, 2015 22:12
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loquacius posted:He already went over this, rape victims get antagonized more than other victims, so obviously they don't have to report anything and we need to move directly to the Minority Report method of investigation Did I hurt your feelings? 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:15
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drat, James Deen has a lot of accounts on SA if this thread is any indicator. That or Stoya has falsely accused a lot of EVE playing virgoons of being rapists?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:16
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this_is_hard posted:Did I hurt your feelings? No, I just thought your catchphrase was funny, I hope this helps  e: what did you say that would have hurt my feelings, I actually can't tell
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I know when I see someone litter I never pick up the litter because that would be shifting responsibility from the litterer.
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Asclepius Hot Rod posted:drat, James Deen has a lot of accounts on SA if this thread is any indicator. Anything goes in the EVE universe
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mr. mephistopheles posted:unless you are severely autistic it shouldn't be hard to understand why someone who has just experienced extreme emotional and physical trauma wouldn't want to put their entire character on trial and that all of that is multiplied exponentially if you work in a "sexually immoral" job and the person you're accusing is powerful and well liked so you defend the decision to not report a rape, and feel that there is no responsibility on the part of the victim to cooperate with an investigation as a way to prevent future rapes from being committed by the person that raped them? but... you don;t... explain why???? this is v. confusing because whole lot of people in this thread act like this is the easiest thing in the world to understand but nobody seems to be able to put it in words yes, i understand that rape is traumatic. that doesn't excuse letting your rapist run wild so that you can avoid the discomfort of a police interview. in fact this explanation seems deeply insane and destructive so I'm sure that there is a better explanation out there but nobody is sharing it
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Dec 1, 2015 22:17
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loquacius posted:No, I just thought your catchphrase was funny, I hope this helps  I guess I did help after all!!
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Dec 1, 2015 22:17
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Has anyone seen that Barnes & Noble commercial where Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett are reinforcing rape culture?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:18
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Nobody should be forced to deal with rape kit/police/trial if they don't want, but boy howdy is making (now) unprovable, character defamation level accusations on social media a year later a terrible goddamn alternative. Like, being accused of rape (if you didn't do it) is one of the worst things that can happen to you, so if he didn't do it, Deen should be in a lawyer's office yesterday. OTOH, if he DID do it, he should probably just kill himself in a painful fashion. Fun fact: a rape kit doesn't obligate you to press charges at the time, but it enables you to do so years later if you change your mind. As a bonus, "thing is true and here is actual physical evidence obtained at the time of assault" is a nice defense from said defamation suits if you do decide to try the case in Twitter court.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:18
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maybe we should segregate the sexes to minimize opportunities for rape. perhaps we could tone down the sexuality of our mass media and fashion. possibly legally require women to travel in packs or with male escorts.
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Dec 1, 2015 22:21
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Delicate flower lady says something happened with a tweet, case closed, put two in the back of Deen's head and piss on the grave. Don't make the girl do it though, she doesn't have that kind of agency
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Dec 1, 2015 22:21
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stoya should shut the gently caress up!
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Dec 1, 2015 22:22
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having never experienced it myself, i too feel comfortable telling a victim what the most rational and correct course of action is and judging them accordingly if they don't do what i imagine i would do in this hypothetical scenario which will likely never happen to me personally this is my thread title suggestion
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Dec 1, 2015 22:28
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make iot illegal to have sex without filming it
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Dec 1, 2015 22:30
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mr. mephistopheles posted:having never experienced it myself, i too feel comfortable telling a victim what the most rational and correct course of action is and judging them accordingly if they don't do what i imagine i would do in this hypothetical scenario which will likely never happen to me personally i too think that nobody should ever have any opinions about anything other than their own lived experiences. I am qualified to have this opinion because I once tried having an opinion about something else and an Internet person snarked at me about it
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This reminds me of something my friend who is a public defender told me. We were at a party and someone was pestering him, asking what was the best crime to commit in order to get off scot-free, you know, murder, rape theft, arson, what's the easiest crime to get away with. He didn't hesitate before saying 'oh, just rape a black prostitute, I promise no one will give a poo poo'. Obviously she's a famous twitter porn star personality and white, but I'm sure it is the same basic principle. She has sex with lots of men for money, more likely to have been abused and done drugs, just all sorts of problems that make her a horrible witness, so going to the police would probably have been a big waste of time. Justice is a lot harder to come by with less social status, which doesn't surprise anyone but is true. Factor in that they dated and shot films together, and she would almost certainly need witnesses to have any sort of chance at a trial.
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let's go back to the first pages of this thread and see all the hideous "jokes" by shambling mounds about how a porn star can't be raped before we dive into debate with these selfsame homunculi about effective anti-rape policies and how women who don't report rape are cowards
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Tezzor posted:let's go back to the first pages of this thread and see all the hideous "jokes" by shambling mounds about how a porn star can't be raped before we dive into debate with these selfsame homunculi about effective anti-rape policies and how women who don't report rape are cowards I bet you're a giant fat piece of poo poo.
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Germstore posted:I bet you're a giant fat piece of poo poo. i'm confused that you posted this, as it isn't a cringeworthy defense of rape. are you branching out
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Tezzor posted:let's go back to the first pages of this thread and see all the hideous "jokes" by shambling mounds about how a porn star can't be raped before we dive into debate with these selfsame homunculi about effective anti-rape policies and how women who don't report rape are cowards yay! tezzor is back. Let's have some gun threads!
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Tezzor posted:i'm confused that you posted this, as it isn't a cringeworthy defense of rape. are you branching out No one cares what you think, not even people on your side because you're a histrionic sad brain babby bitch.
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Dec 1, 2015 23:27
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How the hell can a loving pornstar get raped?? Liberals have gone too far yet again
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every time i think this thread has hit bottom, it finds a new low.
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proof of concept posted:if you're sparring, and the other guy say stop or taps out, and you ignore that and knock him out or break his arm, then that's not sparring it's assault Probably but ur still a pro used to the pain and understand that things don't always go perfect when u fight would u be super outraged if you got kneed after tapping out or try to understand and talk things out? I'm just trying to figure out if the betrayal of trust is so big that the only solution is to twit up about it publicly Like if ur working with dicks all the time and the dick is basically a prop and someone you know playfully forces the dick on u is it any different than 1 butcher in a slaughterhouse playing a trick on another by making them smell cow guts up close? makes u think
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fyodor posted:gbs irc told me to keep it open This is the worst thread in forever. Why don't we close this and make a different thread making fun of all the crazies that have already come out of the woodwork for this?
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Dec 1, 2015 23:33
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Don Tacorleone posted:Getting lots of good tips itt just the tip
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Germstore posted:No one cares what you think, not even people on your side because you're a histrionic sad brain babby bitch. question: shouldn't we all become porn stars so as to give ourselves immunity to rape. deep questions
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Bill Cosby has been like a hollywood open secret for years, and the porn industry reacted much faster to these accusations than anyone else.
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Tezzor posted:question: shouldn't we all become porn stars so as to give ourselves immunity to rape. deep questions If you can find a post I made in this thread where I said a porn star can't be raped I will buy you a forums upgrade of your choice.
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