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Lottery of Babylon posted:If he has such good fundamentals then why is doctor who and the space spiders such boring garbage even before the ~moral dilemma~ turns up halfway through? Also he can't dunk basketballs, so therefore he's worthless.
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DoctorWhat posted:Because Moffat imposed a "Hinchcliffe it the gently caress up" mandate on it (this is literally true) and that is not a mode Harness is predisposed towards. And then he produces a two-parter that's even more bloated and meandering, and also manages to take one of Terry Pratchett's best, most succinct lines ("Revolutions always come back 'round. That's why they're called revolutions") and turn it into a bloviating five-minute monologue that had me wandering off to change a light bulb halfway through. Anyway, going in circles. I'm sure Toxx will say as much in ten lengthy paragraphs at some point in the future.
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Oxxidation posted:Anyway, going in circles. I'm sure Toxx will say as much in ten lengthy paragraphs at some point in the future. Fairly sure he's instead gonna ramble for twenty paragraphs about the power of Capaldi's acting, actually.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 00:49 |
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Gaz-L posted:Also he can't dunk basketballs, so therefore he's worthless. I GET IT
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 00:57 |
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DoctorWhat posted:Strong dialogue, solid pacing in Zygon Inv, good fundamentals. Disagree, it was almost complete shite even without the political implications.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 01:04 |
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DoctorWhat posted:If you wanna see Harness write really goddamn well (although it is an adaptation) watch Johnathan Strange & Mr. Norrel. I thought Barrowman was busy with Arrow these days?
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 01:10 |
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CommonShore posted:What second doctor reconstructions are worth watching? It really is a shame they're missing, in my opinion it was the greatest period the show has ever seen. But I suppose we're lucky to have what we do. Check out Enemy of the World, it's really something. cargohills posted:As a contrast to Burkion, I absolutely despise animated reconstructions. I think you're better off just watching the still image ones.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 01:31 |
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Some of the animation is okay, like Galaxy 4, which, as far as I can tell, was just moving bits of photographs around to help spice up a telesnap recon. Things where its an animated person's face taking up most of the screen because they didn't know what the background was supposed to look like suck though.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 02:13 |
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CommonShore posted:What second doctor reconstructions are worth watching? Last night I wasn't much in the mood to watch reconstructed stories in my "whole series*" run through, so I skipped anything marked "Recon", but then BOOM, I'm at The War Games (which is fun), and then to #3. I was shocked how few second doctor stories are complete. Is it only War Games and Tomb of the Cybermen? Man, I'm trying to think of ones that aren't worth watching. The Space Pirates is pretty bad I guess.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 08:51 |
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Chairman Mao posted:Man, I'm trying to think of ones that aren't worth watching. The Space Pirates is pretty bad I guess. So's The Wheel in Space
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 12:31 |
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Short Synopsis: The War Doctor keeps pushing buttons. Long Synopsis: With the Time War between the Daleks and the Time Lords ended by the death of the War Doctor, the dead War Doctor decides to take a well-deserved holiday. Unfortunately, the Time War (which is now over) finds the War Doctor (who is now dead) on his little getaway paradise and draws him back in, where he finds himself in the very unpleasant situation of arguing against the notion of peace and diplomacy, while the Daleks prove once again that while they're not the most subtle of thinkers, they sure as gently caress know a thing or two about scale and overcompensation. What's Good:
What's Not:
Final Thoughts: Only the Monstrous is an enthusiastic effort by Big Finish to tackle the, ahem, monstrous task of portraying the Time War. A concept that is perhaps best served by being left to the imagination of the viewer, the audio format is still certainly far better suited to the attempt than television or even film would be. Where Big Finish delivers is in the places it usually shines - the story sounds great, the actors are giving it their all, the actor playing the Doctor is once again the highlight (I mean it's John Hurt, how could it not be). The exploration of just how far the Doctor has been changed by the war is made evident, especially so in the way he finds himself arguing on the opposite side of characters who are determined to embrace diplomacy and strive all out for peace. But it doesn't allow things to be binary, the pacifists are seeking peace by allowing the cruel subjugation of millions, the hawks are working with the genuine desire to achieve victory for the purposes of peace, and the War Doctor himself is forced to get his own hands dirty as he continually strives to keep himself above the fray. In that final regard though it does repeat character beats we've already seen in The Night of the Doctor and The Day of the Doctor, and by this point in his regeneration the War Doctor should have already faced these harsh truths. But John Hurt makes the material work, and happily Jacqueline Pearce is as good as I'd hoped she'd be - her Cardinal Ollistra is exactly the kind of intelligent, strategic thinker you'd want on your side in a war.... while being absolutely terrified of her and concerned about what the post-war future will bring too. Her interplay with Hurt as the War Doctor is the cherry on top, their snide putdowns of each other, their piercing insights into each other's character, it's all top-notch stuff. In the end the storyline is perhaps a little too "conventional" for a story about the madness of the Time War, though the craziness does ramp up towards the end. This is of course their first time getting to play with these toys, but the promise of the Time War is that we get to see things get weird, not just see war writ large on a scale beyond the normal. In that respect, Big Finish still has some way to go.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 13:08 |
To be honest, I expected nothing more than total conventionality and a slightly irritating amount of references and allusions to ~continuity~ from Briggsy. Maybe the next few sets will allow for some actual weirdness, as you say. Will probably still pick it up, though, if only to hear more Hurt.
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And More posted:Fairly sure he's instead gonna ramble for twenty paragraphs about the power of Capaldi's acting, actually. To be fair he acted the poo poo out of that monologue, regardless of how well written it was.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 13:21 |
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Stabbatical posted:To be fair he acted the poo poo out of that monologue, regardless of how well written it was. Face it, if Capaldi joined the BNP, the UK would have elected a fascist government into power by mid-year, the man can make anything sound at least a little compelling.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 15:49 |
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Screenplays for a bunch of episodes Smith and Jones: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/doctor_who_3_ep_1.pdf The Magician's Apprentice: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/DW9-EP1-The-Magicians-Apprentice.pdf The Witch's Familiar: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/DW9-EP2-The-Witchs-Familiar.pdf Face The Raven: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/DW9-EP10-Face-the-Raven.pdf Heaven Sent: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/tv/isite-static/doctorwho/scripts/DW9-EP-11-Heaven-Sent.pdf Hell Bent: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/tv/isite-static/doctorwho/scripts/DW9-EP-12-Hell-Bent.pdf
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 18:21 |
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I wish Nick Briggs would let people write weird cool stuff for their big projects again instead of getting so excited about getting to carve out a piece of continuity that he just does the whole thing himself. It's marred basically every audio story I've actually been excited to listen to for like a year or more and it's burning me out on the main thing that drew me into doctor who.
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Mr Beens posted:Screenplays for a bunch of episodes Oh snap, I love screenplays, are there any more of these? The screenplay/finished episode comparison is always fascinating to me. E: Mind Loving Owl posted:So, what the Hell was that Time Tot (Timepole?) doing in the middle of the desert? Do the Time Lords just have child sentries stationed across the planet in case the Doctor makes a dramatic entrance? qntm posted:Give you fifty-fifty odds the kid was a shepherd's boy. quote:A noise makes him turn. Watching him nervously from the E2: it also looks as if "Me" is indeed capitalised in the final line of "Heaven Sent". qntm fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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The screenplay of Hell Bent just calls her Ashildr. For some reason I'm glad about that.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 21:57 |
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kant posted:Plus with Capaldi being such a big fan I wouldn't be surprised if he has a checklist of what he needs to accomplish before he's willing to leave. I know my list would include things like piloting a tardis with original console room and being referred to as lord president. I wonder if some stuff like that we're getting is actual fan service or Capaldi service!? Playing the guitar is probably Capaldi service.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 22:39 |
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It's difficult for me to articulate how great the guitar stuff has been with Capaldi, because it was something which Capaldi brought to the character himself and they worked it in organically. Can you imagine the results if there had been some BBC-level decision that "The Twelfth Doctor needs to be really cool, playing the electric guitar all the time during episodes, like a rock star!" and they specifically cast for that? It feels authentic and timeless in a way which so obviously isn't attempting to cash in on some fad that's external to the show, or appeal to any particular viewer demographic, or imitate any particular real figure. And this look is so good, and 100% justifies the specs.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 00:01 |
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I hate the guitar stuff. Feels forced along with the sonic sunglasses stuff.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 01:25 |
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They're both very modern and novel ways to represent the Doctor's eccentricities, and I think it works well. Capaldi and Coleman's bold, simple costuming worked very well together this year.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 02:16 |
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I liked the guitar in everything but the Fisher King intro where it felt super forced.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 02:24 |
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Cabinet posted:I liked the guitar in everything but the Fisher King intro where it felt super forced. That was one of the highlights of the season for me, but I'm a huge sucker for both shows playing around with their intros and alternate versions of the Doctor Who theme.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 03:11 |
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Yeah, Twelve and his guitar feel right in the same way as Seven and the brolly, and Two and the recorder.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 03:38 |
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Twelve as an aging, burned out rock star just SEEMS right, complete with guitar, sunglasses, and older groupies. And yeah, the War Doctor box set is fine and worth the pick up. I just think they should have taken a couple of more risks and stepped outside the "comfort zone" of how the Doctor acts. Right now all I'm getting is "Three with even less 'do-I-look-like-I-care.'" Maybe now that they're gotten a lot of people on board with a "safer" introduction the next box set will be a bit riskier.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 03:56 |
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I like the guitar thing as a new part of the character Capaldi brings in, because it stops his Doctor from becoming a slavish fanboy tribute to 2-4.Chairman Mao posted:I wish Nick Briggs would let people write weird cool stuff for their big projects again instead of getting so excited about getting to carve out a piece of continuity that he just does the whole thing himself. It's marred basically every audio story I've actually been excited to listen to for like a year or more and it's burning me out on the main thing that drew me into doctor who.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 04:20 |
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One thing in those screenplays is that the Doctor is clearly surprised and taken aback when he realises he's on Gallifrey, which makes me feel better about my interpretation that he didn't know it was the Time Lords until he got out of the confession dial, and before then his plan had just been to mess up someone's day for costing Clara her life. Another thing I wondered was, when the Doctor plays Clara's theme at the end it sounds like he starts playing something else, like he's forgetting even the music, and I wondered if that was intentional or if I was just hearing it wrong. There's no mention of it in the screenplay, so I think it wasn't the intention.
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Mr Beens posted:I hate the guitar stuff. Feels forced along with the sonic sunglasses stuff. Fancy a game of cricket? ThaGhettoJew posted:The season on DAVE or whatever (X?) is pretty dang solid, despite general oldness/flabbity. No Kochanski, original style Holly, no smegs given about continuity... Uh, X didn't have Holly (Norman Lovett's also gone on record saying he probably wouldn't do Red Dwarf again because the producers shafted him a few times when he offered to work on the new series). It was actually pretty solid too, save for some of the episode-long running jokes not being that great.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 08:30 |
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aw gently caress yes i love me some classic who oh
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 09:32 |
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Tim Burns Effect posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jspx3tW-Sy8
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Uh, X didn't have Holly (Norman Lovett's also gone on record saying he probably wouldn't do Red Dwarf again because the producers shafted him a few times when he offered to work on the new series). It was actually pretty solid too, save for some of the episode-long running jokes not being that great. My apologies to the thread. I remembered being surprised that it was good back when I watched it and must have aneurysmed him back into the show. RIP in Peace, Hollies.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 10:48 |
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Although http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co...ow-25102012.htm
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 11:47 |
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So I use “what's the use of a good quotation if you can't change it?” as my e-mail signature at work to stand out among all the patriotic and pithy sayings. The new guy just stepped into my office and asked me “dude, who’s Colin Baker? I plugged his name into Google and got tons of pictures of Willy Wonka’s brother in a ridiculous coat.” I managed to keep my response under two minutes.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 15:08 |
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Speaking of! I went to the mailbox and saw a suspiciously DVD-feeling parcel waiting for me! I thought "Oh goody! My Doctor Who Secret Santa gift has finally arrived!". Well. Not really, no. I am 99.9% sure that this isn't from a thread denizen, and instead from a very... practical friend of mine. Mostly because the note attached, instead of reading "Merry Christmas" from a thread poster here, instead simply said "MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!". Well. I spent last Christmas Eve watching Warriors Of The Deep. This only feels fitting. I'm sure whatever kind gesture I happen to get from the Secret Santa will blow this out of the water. They don't even got a making of documentary on it! I wanted to see people interviewed about why this didn't work! Aww.
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# ? Dec 21, 2015 17:50 |
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From Forktoss:
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Carry On Up The Daleks?
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IT'S THE CARDIS.
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FreezingInferno posted:They don't even got a making of documentary on it! I wanted to see people interviewed about why this didn't work! Aww. Hey, you could always watch it with the commentary on! It's a good one, but there's specifically a bit where Kevin McNally gently brings up the quality issue with a tactfully deployed "this isn't (polite cough) the most celebrated Doctor Who story ever, is it, Colin?"
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The commentaries are the best bits usually
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