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starry skies above
Aug 23, 2015

by zen death robot

wiffle ball bat posted:

hateful 8 owned so hard

can't wait.

Meanwhile:

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-star-wars-the-force-awakens-stinks-20151226-column.html

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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Ginette Reno posted:

It's been a while since I've watched ep 4 but I'm pretty sure they toss in some lines about how the X-Wing is similar to the T whatever the gently caress thing that Luke flies around shooting rats in or whatever so he shouldn't have any trouble handling it.

you're remembering a retroactive eu fix to the issue of Luke going from atmospheric cessnsa to space F-22 in hours.

even allowing for that and the fact that he's a natural pilot, it strains credulity that they'd put him in one of their most advanced fighters over a pilot who has basic tactical training and has actually worked with the other members of the squadron before.

i mean we accept it because it works for movie reasons and we can imagine some sort of justification, but if we're applying the same level of nitpicking about ~realism~ to both films...

romanowski
Nov 10, 2012

Ginette Reno posted:

It's been a while since I've watched ep 4 but I'm pretty sure they toss in some lines about how the X-Wing is similar to the T whatever the gently caress thing that Luke flies around shooting rats in or whatever so he shouldn't have any trouble handling it.

during the briefing about the Death Star some guy mentions that hitting the exhaust port would be impossible because it's too small but luke says that he hits womprats in his T-16 or w/e all the time and they're about the same size. at another point biggs refers to him as the best pilot in the galaxy or this side of the blee-bloop system or whatever. that's pretty much it

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

romanowski posted:

during the briefing about the Death Star some guy mentions that hitting the exhaust port would be impossible because it's too small but luke says that he hits womprats in his T-16 or w/e all the time and they're about the same size. at another point biggs refers to him as the best pilot in the galaxy or this side of the blee-bloop system or whatever. that's pretty much it

I seem to remember the X-Wing captain dude asking Luke if he'll be ok just before they get in their fighters and the battle starts and Luke says something about how he's got some experience flying a similar craft. And then biggs walks over with his porn stache and talks about how great Luke is.

But like I said it's been a while, maybe I'm wrong.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Ginette Reno posted:

I seem to remember the X-Wing captain dude asking Luke if he'll be ok just before they get in their fighters and the battle starts and Luke says something about how he's got some experience flying a similar craft. And then biggs walks over with his porn stache and talks about how great Luke is.

But like I said it's been a while, maybe I'm wrong.

Oh yeah, the added special edition scene where they had to do the weird un-natural natural wipe with the guy walking across the screen to cover the cut line from Red Leader about how great a pilot Luke's dad was.

LEADER: You sure you can handle this ship?

BIGGS: Sir, Luke is the best bush pilot in the Outer Rim Territories.

LEADER: You'll do alright. (weirdly abrupt, because some lines about "Yeah I knew your dad was a great pilot" were cut)

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

old man yells at star wars

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

romanowski posted:

during the briefing about the Death Star some guy mentions that hitting the exhaust port would be impossible because it's too small but luke says that he hits womprats in his T-16 or w/e all the time and they're about the same size. at another point biggs refers to him as the best pilot in the galaxy or this side of the blee-bloop system or whatever. that's pretty much it

hnnnng how can an untrained crop duster be a better pilot than people who went to the imperial academy and were professionally trained aaaaaaaaaaa *poo poo explodes out of rear end in a top hat*

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
best bush pilot

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
anyway i saw the revenant, tfa, and the hateful 8 this holiday season and they were all good except for tfa which sucked a lot of rear end and balls and was a two hour toy commercial for dumbs.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

wiffle ball bat posted:

best bush pilot

so how did he blow up the death star

the answer is space magic because he is specially attuned to space magic, much like the rest of his family

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Fojar38 posted:

old man yells at star wars

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/the-great-star-wars-nearly-made-me-deaf-because-it-10998

Dr.Mrs.The Monarch
Aug 8, 2005

Obamunist Troll Bot: Built to bring a One World Government to the People
Yeah I thought all the battlenstuff was fine. Everyone sucks dick with a light saber, Pizza Face had just taken a bow caster bolt so he wasn't on top of his game, etc. I thought the movie was generally enjoyable, certain parts just seemed stupid as gently caress.

If JJ Abrams wanted to make a droid more annoying than C3PO, he succeeded, I loving hate that purposely over the top cutesy little robot. More annoying than the airhead battle droids in the prequals. The fact that they really made one for filming is admittedly awesome though.

Super duper deathstar is also dumb and lazy. Destroying some planet that gets brought up only to be destroyed is also dumb and lazy.

The scene at the end where R2D2 come back to life for whatever reason and projects that map and then BB8 rolls up and projects the rest was a stupid scene, followed by the even worse spinning shot at the end with Luke.

Maybe it's just me, but all the scenes I really remember are storm troopers and scenes with Poe. Intro scene was legit, TRAITOR! Stormtrooper is my spirit animal and that other one where they turn around during Pizza Faces's tantrum.

I guess what I'm saying is give me a storm trooper movie with bad rear end storm troopers beating on traitors and just trying to live their lives without getting murked by their moody dark jedi masters.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Dr.Mrs.The Monarch posted:

I guess what I'm saying is give me a storm trooper movie with bad rear end storm troopers beating on traitors and just trying to live their lives without getting murked by their moody dark jedi masters.

If you haven't already seen it, you owe it to yourself to see the OG (circulated back in the 90's of VHS) and IMO still best Star Wars Fan Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvswNDAAZCU

Dr.Mrs.The Monarch
Aug 8, 2005

Obamunist Troll Bot: Built to bring a One World Government to the People

Otisburg posted:

If you haven't already seen it, you owe it to yourself to see the OG (circulated back in the 90's of VHS) and IMO still best Star Wars Fan Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvswNDAAZCU

Nice, yeah this and something like an adult/live action version of Clone Wars. Give me a story about the real little guy, not the force imbued god warrior/space Wizard

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Clipperton posted:

lol if you believe any of that

That there are intentional Oedipal themes in Star Wars?

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Nostalgia4Dicks posted:

never thought it'd be cool and ironic to hate bb8 but here we are

Like my pups new tag?



BB8 is great, and that minute and a half of C3PO being jar-jar-esque made me really appreciate just how annoying the old droids always were, and how much I like the new one. He has the same "up with people" attitude as my dog.

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

old man yells at star wars

he's not wrong though, i enjoyed tfa but at its worst it did seem more of a brand-repositioning exercise than an actual movie


Frankenstyle posted:

BB8 is great, and that minute and a half of C3PO being jar-jar-esque made me really appreciate just how annoying the old droids always were, and how much I like the new one. He has the same "up with people" attitude as my dog.

yeah i find every second of c3po and r2d2 in the first six movies grating as gently caress but bb8 was all right


Cnut the Great posted:

That there are intentional Oedipal themes in Star Wars?

lol

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Otisburg posted:

I'll cop to wanting that. Not as an info-dump, but even a few offhanded lines could have really helped build the world out a little more.

"If only the Republic would acknowledge the threat."
"They think they've got the First Order in a corner, backed into a handful systems. They believe just giving the Resistance a few X-wings under the table will be enough to keep them in check. They're still so exhausted from mopping up the Empire they won't commit to more."
"That sucks and is bad."
"Yeah, agreed-- On no, Stormtroopers!" *pew pew*

Like I'm sure a real scriptwriter could make it sound better, but there, 20 seconds of dialogue that fills in the story around it better.

That said, Star Wars really isn't at it's core a story about literal Star Wars. That's just a backdrop for the character drama.

*puts on medical tape repaired glasses* Actually, the Empire and Republic are at peace, the New order is just a political party within the Empire making a grab at power because the Empire has been weakened by military treaties limiting the sizes of fleets and ships, same as the Republic. The First Order is like a Neo-Nazi group taking over Germany again from bases in Argentina, the Resistance is like a CIA splinter cell that's gone off the books

Vogler
Feb 6, 2009
Why would the Republic make peace with the Empire anyways? They tried to build a Death Star, twice. Don't be stupid, people.

Zmej
Nov 6, 2005


I don't understand why people think hollywood is now creatively bankrupt compared the like 60 years ago before star wars. they made shovelware and
"guaranteed hit" movies. quality control to describe star wars and marvel movies now is pretty accurate. you're getting a well-made product and not a complete free-form mess like the star wars prequels. is one better than the other? I don't have a desire to really see tfa or the prequels again. if I'm at a friends house and he puts on tfa I'm not gonna moan and complain because I know I can sit through it.

idk gently caress movies i guess?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Otisburg posted:

If you haven't already seen it, you owe it to yourself to see the OG (circulated back in the 90's of VHS) and IMO still best Star Wars Fan Film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvswNDAAZCU

This is like a mix of Reno 911 and Star Wars in the best possible way

etalian fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Dec 29, 2015

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Booblord Zagats posted:

*puts on medical tape repaired glasses* Actually, the Empire and Republic are at peace, the New order is just a political party within the Empire making a grab at power because the Empire has been weakened by military treaties limiting the sizes of fleets and ships, same as the Republic. The First Order is like a Neo-Nazi group taking over Germany again from bases in Argentina, the Resistance is like a CIA splinter cell that's gone off the books

Never once in that movie does anyone refer to empire anything. where are you getting this from? is Disney trying to make me read EU novels and poo poo to understand the main movie?

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Rutibex posted:

Never once in that movie does anyone refer to empire anything. where are you getting this from? is Disney trying to make me read EU novels and poo poo to understand the main movie?

The Visual Dictionary they released with the movie.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Dr.Mrs.The Monarch posted:

I loving hate that purposely over the top cutesy little robot

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Jesus just go watch Hateful 8, The Big Short or The Revenant you nerds.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

etalian posted:

Jesus just go watch Hateful 8, The Big Short or The Revenant you nerds.

I've seen one of these and really want to see the other two

suddenly there's so many drat good movies coming out at the same time after like years of boring poo poo

WTF is this

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
i saw it again with my 8 year old nephew he liked it a lot :shrug:

the title crawl actually explains the whole political breakdown (first order rose from the ashes of the empire, the ruling republic is secretly supporting the resistance... that's it) for people who care. im glad they didnt waste any more screen time on it than they did because the movie does feel really rushed at times like they had to cut a lot to fit it in. there's quite a few scenes that i wish they couldve let breathe more because the movie is really visually amazing but they dont linger on anything. It's kind of hard to follow the X-wing vs. Star killer battle at the end because it is so frenetic and the editing is kind of crazy. those are nitpicks though i still thought it was a good movie.

can't wait to see hateful 8 when it opens near me

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Booblord Zagats posted:

The Visual Dictionary they released with the movie.



wow, ok I wish they had made this story into a movie instead, its a lot more interesting

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Rutibex posted:

wow, ok I wish they had made this story into a movie instead, its a lot more interesting

:goonsay:

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Rutibex posted:

wow, ok I wish they had made this story into a movie instead, its a lot more interesting

There's this movie, Attack of the Clones, pretty much Space CSPAN, you should check that poo poo out

But seriously, it wouldn't have been asking to much to throw it in to the crawl

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
man I'm almost positive they're going to be releasing some star wars gaiden sidestory poo poo in the coming years so you may get your wish

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Has anyone pointed out that Rey almost completely fits the description of a Mary Sue? Like basically 99.9% of the definition of a Mary Sue.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
im sure disney will release several dozen anthology films that go into plenty of depth on the state of the star wars. the core trilogies shouldnt have to get bogged down in all that even if it is interesting to you

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Can someone repost all the cool gifs of the sick spinning TR8R trooper? That's the highlight of the movie aside from BB8

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

a bone to pick posted:

Has anyone pointed out that Rey almost completely fits the description of a Mary Sue? Like basically 99.9% of the definition of a Mary Sue.

yeah I think you did

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
Bb8 cute as gently caress

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Chill la Chill posted:

Can someone repost all the cool gifs of the sick spinning TR8R trooper? That's the highlight of the movie aside from BB8

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

a bone to pick posted:

Has anyone pointed out that Rey almost completely fits the description of a Mary Sue? Like basically 99.9% of the definition of a Mary Sue.

wait like how is the character a writer self-insert? what?

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

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Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Monkey Fracas posted:

wait like how is the character a writer self-insert? what?

stop being a baby.


she is a perfect character with zero faults that can anyhting. That is what he means

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