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ruddiger posted:You mean me twisting the "raped my childhood" mantra so that it's a not-so-subtle dig at someone using a war crime to illustrate why they don't want to remember a scene from a movie? No, it's exactly what I meant. Maybe you should throw another SA phrase staple at me. Maybe a nice "I'm gay" to round out your post count. Maybe you should hang up your fedora and go to bed?
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ruddiger posted:I'm gay
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effectual posted:alien 3 sucks too
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Xenomrph posted:Whoa hey now let's not say things we can't take back Search your feelings, you know it to be true. Shat all over the climax and payoff of the last film by killing Micheal Bean and Newt offscreen with a hitherto unmentioned and unnoticed bonus Alien stowaway. I will grant you that Charles Dutton and Sardo Numpsa were good in it tho. Kind of bummed Neil Blumpkin's sequel to Aliens that would have been a giant retcon of Alien 3-4 fell through.
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Gonna have to disagree, especially in light of the Assembly Cut version of the movie. Like Alien3 is a very flawed movie in a lot of ways, and your objection that it wrecks the ending of 'Aliens' is valid to a certain extent, but i have to commend the movie for even having the balls to take such an approach and pulling it off in the way it does. The movie is unrelentingly consistent in its themes of nihilism and death, and if anything it's more tonally in line with the first movie, and it's 'Aliens' that's the outlier. I completely understand people's objections to the movie (and I even agree with several of them), but I feel that taken on its own merits, it has a lot it brings to the table to make it a worthy sequel. We can still be Internet pals even if we disagree on some movies, though. Namaste 
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For some reason I just don't remember anything about Alien 3. Aliens and Aliens were great and alien 4 was a shitshow, but I don't really remember the third one. Also the reason Aliens was so great was that it was nothing like the first one. IT was basically a total genre shift and it worked, which pretty much no one has pulled off since.
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ranbo das posted:Also the reason Aliens was so great was that it was nothing like the first one. IT was basically a total genre shift and it worked, which pretty much no one has pulled off since. The only particularly strong example I can think of offhand is Rambo/First Blood. If there hadn't been any sequels, it would have been regarded, by those who remembered it, as a "thriller with a heart" about PTSD and the plight of Vietnam vets trying to fit into an ungrateful system. It rocketed so far in the other direction that it became self-parody, albeit with ridiculous success. E: There's also Evil Dead.
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Xenomrph posted:Your objection that it wrecks the ending of 'Aliens' is valid to a certain extent, but i have to commend the movie for even having the balls to take such an approach and pulling it off in the way it does. The mental gymnastics required to treat Alien 3's resolution of Aliens as anything but completely horrible are impossible. This movie was disowned by its director, and like every franchise film after Aliens, written largely in a Fox boardroom. It's the most functional of such films, in that Joss Whedon was too young to get his grubby mitts on it and write every character as a snarky teenager, and unlike the much later films has protagonists, but there you have it.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:The mental gymnastics required to treat Alien 3's resolution of Aliens as anything but completely horrible are impossible. This movie was disowned by its director, and like every franchise film after Aliens, written largely in a Fox boardroom. Yes it disrupts the ending of 'Aliens' with something negative and painful, but that's kind of the point. It's not like it tried to run with the ending, fumbled it, and ended up disrespecting it with something bad, the entire goal right out of the gate was one of nihilistic destruction. Its entire point was to say "there are no happy endings in the Alien universe, and gently caress you if you think there should be". The movie was disowned by the director only because FOX railroaded the poo poo out of him during production and didn't let him make the movie he wanted to make, not because he knew he was somehow making a bad movie. And when they released the Assembly Cut version of the movie, which is much more in-line with what Fincher was trying to do all along, it's no surprise that it's a much better movie than what we got in the theatrical version.
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guardians of the galaxy was a better film tbh i just really loving love GotG Star-Lord is a better waifu than Poe.
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Xenomrph posted:I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. If we're going to start divining Fincher's intentions from a cut he had no involvement in piecing together beyond getting it filmed, we might as well pretend it's good so we can sleep at night. After all, 'good' and 'bad' are abstracts designed to keep us at our 9 to 5s and believing in a just world fallacy. Let's set aside that having some guy come in years later and just make his own cut more or less confirms that the movie is poo poo anyway. Bringing it full circle, the prequels are undeniably poo poo is the reason we have "edits" of it. I will say this, at least the Assembly Cut is an actual edit and not just someone sloppily cutting parts out of a pirated MPG. This trend of turbonerds hacking apart a movie while using words like "tightening dialogue" because they heard them used on a DVD bonus feature makes my eyes roll out of my head. By the way, has Topher Grace ever admitted on camera to being involved with that 85-minute prequel "cut?"
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I'm confused, what do you mean about Topher Grace?
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http://www.avclub.com/article/topher-grace-edited-all-the-emstar-wars-emprequels-70527 This is apparently floating around somewhere but I've never seen Topher Grace even talk about it. Apparently it's 85 minutes long.
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Xenomrph posted:Gonna have to disagree, especially in light of the Assembly Cut version of the movie. No matter how poo poo Alien 5 is I'll take whatever it is they will do to explain how Newt and Hicks didn't die over them dying in Alien^3. Space jail, while not as bad as pig-nose alien, was pretty bad. No one willingly watches anything past Aliens unless they haven't seen them before.
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Philthy posted:No matter how poo poo Alien 5 is I'll take whatever it is they will do to explain how Newt and Hicks didn't die over them dying in Alien^3. http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/30/9642414/neill-blomkamp-alien-movie-on-hold Kind of feeling like "put on hold" is the nice way of saying it was shot behind the chemical sheds, given how these things usually shake out in Hollywoodtown. 
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:http://www.avclub.com/article/topher-grace-edited-all-the-emstar-wars-emprequels-70527 I think he was on a Nerdist podcast a few years back and they brought this up.
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Abrams is truly one of the great filmmakers of our generation
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Philthy posted:No matter how poo poo Alien 5 is I'll take whatever it is they will do to explain how Newt and Hicks didn't die over them dying in Alien^3. Space jail, while not as bad as pig-nose alien, was pretty bad. No one willingly watches anything past Aliens unless they haven't seen them before. I like bits of Resurrection, but you're right about 3.
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Aliens was pretty bad too, actually. Only the first movie is good.
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notZaar posted:Aliens was pretty bad too, actually. Only the first movie is good. Likewise, Alien3 is pretty bad if you're expecting "Aliens 2: Now With More Marines And Aliens" (and a lot of people were). The best counterpoint against "Aliens 2" is the Colonial Marines video game which is pretty much exactly that, but to be fair that's more the fault of poor execution, rather than an unsound idea.
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Aliens vs Predator (1 and 2) were some rad video games. Colonial Marines was not.
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notZaar posted:Aliens was pretty bad too, actually. Only the first movie is good.
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Chomp8645 posted:Aliens vs Predator (1 and 2) were some rad video games. Colonial Marines was a bad game and a big disappointment, but it had a couple things going for it. The level designs and environments were really cool, top notch recreations of areas from the movie, and the new areas felt like logical extensions of what we saw in the movie. It helps that they got Syd Mead, concept artist and designer from the movie, to help with the game environments. Likewise the new weapon designs (and even the Call of Duty style weapon mods for existing weapons) were cool and didn't feel out of place, and the weapons actually felt useful so you weren't just using the pulse rifle 100% of the time. Of course neither of those qualities kept the game from being a buggy, poorly written, nigh-unplayable mess. Wow I just wrote a lot of words about a bad Aliens game in a Star Wars thread. 
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I do remember Jar Jar stepping in poopie and getting zapped. That, Darth Maul getting sliced in half, and the little kid making the fighter spin are the only things I remember about The Phantom Menace, and none of them made me like the movie. In fact I'm pretty sure everyone watching knew, as soon as Jar Jar stepped in the poopie, that they were watching one of the worst movies ever made. The only movie worse than The Phantom Menace is Attack of the Clones. Padme's abs and "I hate sand" are all I remember from that one. The prequels are garbage and George Lucas is a hack. Taking Star Wars away from him is the best thing a media conglomerate has done in the last decade.
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FuturePastNow posted:I do remember Jar Jar stepping in poopie and getting zapped. That, Darth Maul getting sliced in half, and the little kid making the fighter spin are the only things I remember about The Phantom Menace, and none of them made me like the movie. In fact I'm pretty sure everyone watching knew, as soon as Jar Jar stepped in the poopie, that they were watching one of the worst movies ever made. Then made a poo poo movie on their own.
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ruddiger posted:I'm gay The prequels are hilariously bad and weird movies but they didn't rape my childhood nor do I hate George Lucas like a lot of people do. I have nothing against him, he's just kind of a big harmless idiot who accidentally managed to make the most popular movie ever, then got torn to shreds by his fans when people realized that he wasn't the genius visionary they all thought he was. Also the EU was by and large fuckin' terrible and made the prequels look like masterpieces in comparison so I'm glad they dumped that garbage. The EU was like DBZ if DBZ wasn't self-aware of how retarded it was and took itself completely seriously.
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Also the new Star Wars movie wasn't great, nor was it bad and since Disney is going to use the Marvel formula for these, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of yearly Star Wars movies they're going to make will be neither great not bad and just okay HTH
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whats the over/under on the rotten tomatoes score being lowered by a few points a month after release being due to glorified blog posts by neckbeards complaining about mary sues
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Dogmeat posted:That's it, bitches. I'll see you at the flagpole after school. could you imagine going to watch a movie with this guy lol
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hemale in pain posted:could you imagine going to watch a movie with this guy lol mmmm I'm imagining it right now, he's sucking my dick during the loud scenes.
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Finally got around to seeing it and I thought it was pretty good. Had the prequels been that good I would have been completely satisfied. Star Wars was never a huge part of my childhood or anything but it was really aggravating to watch Lucas take all the talent he'd assembled and all the hope he'd inspired and completely piss it down his leg.
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a bone to pick posted:mmmm I'm imagining it right now, he's sucking my dick during the loud scenes. Nice!
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you're a joyless sperg if you didn't have a blast watching the force awakens but you're a brainless retard if you thought it was an actual good movie
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:you're a joyless sperg if you didn't have a blast watching the force awakens but you're a brainless retard if you thought it was an actual good movie A fair assessment.
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:you're a joyless sperg if you didn't have a blast watching the force awakens but you're a brainless retard if you thought it was an actual good movie yea but that's true for everything star wars
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Fojar38 posted:over 100 pages of snatch dusting What if Snatch Duster is actually bad
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hemale in pain posted:yea but that's true for everything star wars empire is the closest thing to an actual good film but yeah.
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