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dogstile posted:I'm really surprised nobody here has posted about the BB tourney cyanide is hosting where they're giving out $10,000 of prize money. When/where is this? Presumably it's streamed somewhere.
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Jan 17, 2016 13:53
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Fellblade posted:When/where is this? Presumably it's streamed somewhere. http://www.pcgamer.com/anyone-can-enter-the-blood-bowl-2-world-cup/ I'm going from this
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Jan 17, 2016 14:24
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I got an e-mail about it. I don't even own BB2.
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Jan 17, 2016 23:27
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Yeah I got the email too. The website is: http://www.bloodbowl-game.com/worldcup/.
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Jan 18, 2016 00:27
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I'm not buying your lovely game for this cyanide, nice try though.
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Jan 18, 2016 00:45
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Also you gotta be a top 8 finisher to get any cash. Most of the prize pool is just Focus Interactive's game catalogue on steam. And then you'd actually have to PLAY blood bowl...
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Jan 18, 2016 03:35
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Hey everybody, blood bowl 2 is a good game if you like games workshop's take on fantasy football. It looks good and has enough functionality for an enjoyable experience. They even have a tournament everyone can qualify for with cash prizes. If you're not that try hard the open ladder will put you up against other skilled players and if you get disconnected or crash there's a handy dandy reconnect feature. Have a good night.
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Jan 18, 2016 05:26
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koolaidconvoy posted:Hey everybody, blood bowl 2 is a good game if you like games workshop's take on fantasy football. It looks good and has enough functionality for an enjoyable experience. They even have a tournament everyone can qualify for with cash prizes. If you're not that try hard the open ladder will put you up against other skilled players and if you get disconnected or crash there's a handy dandy reconnect feature. Have a good night. Please source your quotes.
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Jan 18, 2016 05:28
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uPen posted:Please source your quotes. I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment.
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Jan 18, 2016 05:43
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koolaidconvoy posted:I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. Clearly you've already drank too much of the koolaid.
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Jan 18, 2016 15:12
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You're both right. BB2 is the best bad game of 2015.
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Jan 18, 2016 15:45
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i actually went ahead and got it on sale because im a hypocrite idiot won my first game, against a chaos guy, via concession, because he tried to stall and my gutter runner got his ball on a -2b and then he failed a go for it trying to hit him
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Jan 18, 2016 16:11
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i actually went ahead and got it on sale because im a hypocrite idiot First game, I two turn with wood elves elves, kick the ball short, get a blitz and run a catcher underneath where the ball is set to fall. DC immediately.
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Jan 18, 2016 16:17
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Was the online experience that much better on Bloodbowl CE? Everyone keeps complaining about concedes but that just seems like normal online gaming experience to me.
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Jan 18, 2016 16:20
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ProZocK posted:Was the online experience that much better on Bloodbowl CE? Everyone keeps complaining about concedes but that just seems like normal online gaming experience to me. Yes, when I was playing my underworld team I never saw an opposing team quit, even when I killed 4 saurus on a lizard team.
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Jan 18, 2016 16:37
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Yorkshire Tea posted:First game, I two turn with wood elves elves, kick the ball short, get a blitz and run a catcher underneath where the ball is set to fall. DC immediately. its weird: i had played three games, where my opponent was at least somewhat competent, and had two losses that were pretty embarassing. now im playing and ive run into the fabled big baby quitters. it helps that ive rapidly learned that players are a lot less easy to bully with skaven bashing than the CE AI was second victory: concession by skaven opponent. they got the ball, tried to run down the side i left open in a rat cage. little did he know the Skinners Boxers were well equipped to deal with rat cages.
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Jan 18, 2016 16:37
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There is nothing inherently wrong with conceding. But to me the biggest problem is that conceding actually gives advantages. The most common practice (and even I have done it, I admit) is simply conceding because you have 2/3 players who are missing next game. Zero penalties whatsoever for doing so and instant reward. My fix : Misses next game only go away after completing a game.
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Jan 18, 2016 16:42
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The only time I've seen a concede that truely made sense was when I was playing an elf team that got super unlucky on injury dice and lost 3 elves to various serious injuries in the first half of the game. After I scored, he took one look at the pitch, realized that if he played the second half he was going to get chased down and murdered if I ever got the ball back (I was playing orcs) and since he was already at a stark numerical disadvantage there was nothing he could do to stop me from getting the ball in the second half. So he conceded while he still had a somewhat viable team for the next game. I would have too in his position.
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Jan 18, 2016 16:51
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I had a game where I had 4 of my elves suffer heatstroke, then on the first turn three of them had a CAS. Yeah I bailed.
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Jan 18, 2016 17:11
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I've had a game against lizardmen, I think it was, where by turn 4 I had five dwarves out with injuries/death. If the dice are so adamantly demanding I lose, I'll do it by conceding and save us both some time.
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Jan 18, 2016 17:30
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ProZocK posted:Was the online experience that much better on Bloodbowl CE? Everyone keeps complaining about concedes but that just seems like normal online gaming experience to me. Anecdotally? Yes. People are way more likely to pull the plug early in BB2. Out and out concession losses almost never happened in BB1. More often they would just alt-f4 out. Even then, the rate of completed matches in BB1 was greater. Having to sit on the disconnect screen for a couple minutes before you collect your concession is annoying, but the high rate of concessions in BB2, and especially concessions that come before halftime, make me not want to touch it at all. Concede all you want when you're down 5, or half your team is dead, I've done that before and will do it again, but BB2 players are way more likely to concede on petty poo poo, like failing an LoS block on the opening kickoff or me rolling Blitz and catching the ball. Things aren't going your way immediately? Peace. They should bring back the chance for higher level players to walk on a concession.
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Jan 18, 2016 17:50
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dogstile posted:I had a game where I had 4 of my elves suffer heatstroke, then on the first turn three of them had a CAS. Ya big wuss.
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Jan 18, 2016 18:47
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Mr. Squishy posted:Ya big wuss. I'm sobbing uncontrollably
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Jan 18, 2016 19:16
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dogstile posted:I'm sobbing uncontrollably Your pixelmen died and you denied them even a purpose in death. You should becrying, you monster.
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Jan 18, 2016 19:23
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I don't think bb2 is somehow inducing more concedes than bb1. More likely it's a combination of a larger player base, an on average less skilled player base, and the fact that getting a new game is pretty easy. Even if they put the "51spp player retires on a 4+ when conceding" rule in it would do nothing against most concedes which are happening with newer teams, which are the majority of games. What I've found is that once you get a team high enough on the ladder the matchmaker pairs you against other higher ranked teams, thus playing better coaches, thus less concedes. The other option is to play in moderated ladders like hadwick, though finding a game may take longer and have a higher tv spread, you're pretty assured of playing a competent coach that won't concede for dumb stuff. Maybe if cyanide put in a coach ELO rating type thing and penalized concedes it might reduce that behavior, similar to Starcraft or even dota.
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Jan 18, 2016 19:50
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not ELO, just Elo. its a name. also, would suck, due to imbalance in teams.
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Jan 18, 2016 20:08
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Yeah those ratings work on the presumption that all participants are equal. This works great in games like chess where that's true, or things like boxing matches, where even if two people are unequal they're presumed to be close enough for the purposes of the match. Nothing could be further from the truth in Blood Bowl.
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Jan 18, 2016 22:12
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However fummbl does it then, with a team and coach rating where one informs the other. Not something i desire but for those that want less concedes it could help.
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Jan 18, 2016 22:26
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Tiler Kiwi posted:not ELO, just Elo. its a name. It's a band.
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Jan 19, 2016 00:52
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koolaidconvoy posted:However fummbl does it then, with a team and coach rating where one informs the other. Not something i desire but for those that want less concedes it could help. Coach rating is not used for matchmaking.
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Jan 19, 2016 01:29
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Marcus Garvey posted:Coach rating is not used for matchmaking. If you join gamefinder, you can see the rating of the coaches of the available teams. It usually gives you a good idea of the level of player your up against. None of that matters cause your just going to roll 1s anyway.
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Jan 19, 2016 01:34
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Marcus Garvey posted:Coach rating is not used for matchmaking. Speak for yourself.
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Jan 19, 2016 01:34
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Marcus Garvey posted:Coach rating is not used for matchmaking. The rating would get players to stop conceding, to maintain their rating, it would not have to be used for mm, though I think it would be nice if it did.
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Jan 19, 2016 02:19
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Mr. Squishy posted:It's a band. oh poo poo I need to make Electric Light ORKestra how have I not already made this team
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Jan 19, 2016 03:13
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koolaidconvoy posted:The rating would get players to stop conceding, to maintain their rating, it would not have to be used for mm, though I think it would be nice if it did. I get what you're thinking but it's not going to work that way. If conceding meant that a player gets ranked down and play easier opponents, then it's in their interest to concede any game they don't want to play or are losing. May as well get your next game against an easier team.
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Jan 19, 2016 05:52
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I've got it! If you concede more than X% of your games, BB2 uninstalls itself and blacklists your licence key.
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Jan 19, 2016 07:44
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Have a rating based on number of completed games. Coacher's who don't concede pay others who don't either. Though that do, play chicken to see who will concede first.
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Jan 19, 2016 09:05
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Jade Star posted:I get what you're thinking but it's not going to work that way. If conceding meant that a player gets ranked down and play easier opponents, then it's in their interest to concede any game they don't want to play or are losing. May as well get your next game against an easier team. But if conceding has a greater penalty [think dota low priority or just a bigger elo/rating hit] then the player will have incentive to play out a losing affair: to not get the concede penalty. Honestly though, the more I think about it, conceding is not a bad thing and we should stop being so sensitive about opponents not willing to play out a likely loss, either because they perceive they can't win or don't have the skill to be competitive in the matchup. Blood bowl is supposed to be fun and playing out a loss can sometimes feel like not covering your ears when someone keeps scratching the blackboard.
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Jade Star posted:The pro choice for chaos warrior doubles is actually dodge. You can easily make the beasties your murder pile on players. The warriors are your str 4 anchor points. Your skill selection of Blodge/guard/stand firm is actually pretty ideal for them. You make them hard to remove from advantageous spots, they can punch things even if not at full murder, and they become pillars that support your teams control of the field. Let the beasties work around the warriors picking off players, making use of the warriors Guard, etc. I'm not sure this is actually a good way to build Chaos. You'll be playing a ton of Chaos mirrors at high TV and the Chaos vs Dwarves/Orcs matchup has already demonstrated that a bash game where one team has ClawPOMB and the other does not is hugely one-sided. If I was going to build Chaos away from the pure murderstack, it would probably be with more of an eye towards countering Elves and other teams who don't care about Claw.
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