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Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

frozenpeas posted:

I don't think you can judge the characters of the showrunners based on a show that many, many people have a hand in producing. Have you read City of Thieves? Benioff is a pretty decent writer.

Nobody sane is saying you can judge Benioff's character based on the show.

But you can certainly judge his writing talent by it because if you think he has anything less than near total authority on every writing decision being made you're delusional.

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Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

MrMojok posted:

Holy poo poo Mook, I haven't really been reading this thread since last season ended but are you still doing this bit where you excoriate D&D for turning the show into tits and torture, while at the same time posting "I want to gently caress Sophie Turner" ?

What's strange about that?

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine
What a pointless teaser, I could barely recognize any of the faces anyways but I know that half those characters aren't dead yet so what's even the point? Why not just say "this is a show with characters in it"?

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
I like the idea for the teaser but the execution is lacking so it's kind of :geno:. It was also a weird choice to have all the dead Starks say something and randomly interrupt it with Joffrey before moving onto Jon. They should have gone the whole hog and had all the dead major characters talking, especially since they bothered to include Tywin, Ygritte, and Stannis' face in there.

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

In It For The Tank posted:

I like the idea for the teaser but the execution is lacking so it's kind of :geno:. It was also a weird choice to have all the dead Starks say something and randomly interrupt it with Joffrey before moving onto Jon.

Think you missed the obvious implication they were going for. Ned, Robb, Cat, Joffrey, Jon in order, then focus on Tyrion.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
I get that they're showing dead people in order to suggest that the six main characters shown at the end are gonna die next (yeah right), but it's still strange to interrupt the clear sequence of dead Starks with Joffrey. Like I said, if they'd featured an assortment of other non-Stark dead major characters (Robert, Renly, Oberyn, to name some that aren't already there, for example) as well would have been better and would have made Joffrey's inclusion not feel so out of place.

Alternatively, if they'd just shown the dead Starks (and only the Starks), followed by Arya and Sansa, and then panned back to reveal all the other main characters, that would have worked as well.

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

Err, that's not the implication at all. It's heavily implying that Tyrion is dying next. That's who the camera is focusing on in the dead middle and it does the same thing every time a name is said. The reason they included Joffrey is so you would specifically know it wasn't just Starks, so when the camera focuses on Tyrion you (theoretically) go "oh gently caress Tyrion!".

If you're then going to say well why didn't it include every Lannister in order too it's because the drat teaser is already a minute and a half long with just the bare minimum they needed to drive the implication home.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
While I understand your thinking, I think it's actually implying all of the main characters (ie. Tyrion, Dany, Sansa, Arya, Jaime, and Cersei) are going to die because only dead people's faces should appear in the House of Black and White and they're all there. Tyrion gets specific focus during the transition from Jon not because he's being specifically marked for death over everyone else but because Tyrion is the "main" (read: top billed) character and is often given specific focus in these kinds of things because of it.

Also, no names are said; the dead characters speak one of their famous lines while the camera pans over them. If one of Tyrion's quotes played over the camera panning over his face then I think you'd be onto something. But I think the teaser is supposed to be saying "oh no, look all the living characters are in the place with dead characters. They're all gonna dieeeeeeeeee so tune in to see that definitely happen!".

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
I just hope we don't get one hundred pointless scenes this season that go: Hey guys remember Ramsay? Yeah, he's still a huge rear end in a top hat. Here, have a scene of him kicking a dog that doesn't move the plot forward at all.

Hopefully Dave Hill saves us from that

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Ginette Reno posted:

I just hope we don't get one hundred pointless scenes this season that go: Hey guys remember Needle? Yeah, it's a sword too small to be of any practical use. Here, have a scene of Arya hiding it that doesn't move the plot forward at all.

loving Gangnam Style

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine
Her not throwing away needle is perhaps the single most important scene Arya has in her post-westoros arc, except for killing the night's watch dude but D&D in their incredible wisdom thought that a 2 episode long arc about Meryn Trant raping and beating a bunch of little girls was more important to show their audience.


Well done boys!

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Didn't they show that too?

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Ague Proof posted:

Didn't they show that too?

SHe killed Meryn, not that Night's Watch defectee who was with Sam. It's an important moment since she kills him out of the sense of duty her father imposed in her as a Stark.

KRILLIN IN THE NAME
Mar 25, 2006

:ssj:goku i won't do what u tell me:ssj:


this somehow ended up in my twitter stream earlier today

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Austrian mook posted:

Her not throwing away needle is perhaps the single most important scene Arya has in her post-westoros arc

gently caress that you can`t be serious

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Austrian mook posted:

Her not throwing away needle is perhaps the single most important scene Arya has in her post-westoros arc, except for killing the night's watch dude but D&D in their incredible wisdom thought that a 2 episode long arc about Meryn Trant raping and beating a bunch of little girls was more important to show their audience.


Well done boys!

Did you really watched the show last season?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtcV0gPQdxA

And the NW dude scene can still happen, since Sam's voyage gonna be this season

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Harold Stassen posted:

gently caress that you can`t be serious

Eh, I'd agree with that. She's making the classic "Stark Mistake" by staying true to herself and not letting go of her past to truly become a faceless man. Pretty sure that happened before the killing of the Night's Watch dude, so it's the first time we're seeing her actively make the choice of herself over the FM. And there's gonna more and more of those moments until finally they either have to kill her for it, or she gets hired to kill Sansa or something.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

Botnit posted:

Err, that's not the implication at all. It's heavily implying that Tyrion is dying next.

Yeah, because that's what you do in a teaser, you give away a major plot point.

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

Yeah, a teaser teasing that the fan favorite character could be the next to die is outrageous

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

KRILLIN IN THE NAME posted:

this somehow ended up in my twitter stream earlier today



The Conan George RR Martin procrastinating videos are hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lle4t4o8EDk

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
the teaser had the faces of all the other main characters as well next to tyrion. dany, sansa and arya's faces were there too

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
The teaser was a visual "Valar Morghulis", that's all.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I hope a loving asteroid crashes into Westeros killing everyone.

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

Lycus posted:

The teaser was a visual "Valar Morghulis", that's all.

Yes, yes it was, however you have to be visually or mentally handicapped to not realize more emphasis is being placed on Tyrion than the others.

Does it mean he'll die next? No. It means they teased the idea of it in a pretty disappointing teaser. How you guys can't understand what youtube commenters are is baffling.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

I see where you're going. Yeah, it's a trap for dummies.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I hope a loving asteroid crashes into Westeros killing everyone.

Story-wise isn't that the equivalent of GRRM just never finishing the books?

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

twistedmentat posted:

The Conan George RR Martin procrastinating videos are hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lle4t4o8EDk

lol at the end- "You may now return to your pirated movies and creepy Japanese pornography"

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Is this bullying?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Harold Stassen posted:

lol at the end- "You may now return to your pirated movies and creepy Japanese pornography"

Conan knows his audience.

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.
Funko Pop has released its new line of Game of Thrones figures.

This time they've got:

Stannis
Melisandre
Margaery
Bronn
Jorah
Unsullied
Harpy
Rheagal
Night King
Danearys riding Drogon

http://popvinyls.com/2016/02/11/new-game-of-thrones-are-up-for-preorder/

Antifa Spacemarine
Jan 11, 2011

Tzeentch can suck it.

Mouse Dresser posted:

Funko Pop has released its new line of Game of Thrones figures.

This time they've got:

Stannis
Melisandre
Margaery
Bronn
Jorah
Unsullied
Harpy
Rheagal
Night King
Danearys riding Drogon

http://popvinyls.com/2016/02/11/new-game-of-thrones-are-up-for-preorder/

Who buys these?

Kevyn
Mar 5, 2003

I just want to smile. Just once. I'd like to just, one time, go to Disney World and smile like the other boys and girls.
I find it funny that they haven't made a Theon Greyjoy one yet, considering all of those loving things look like Alfie Allen.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

A fuckton of people. Some are worth a ton of money. A Renly one is worth like $100, and that's on the low end of rare ones.

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

I bought 3 stuffed baby dragons for my girlfriend's birthday a few years ago and she loved them even though she doesn't like Dany.

Sorry you don't have friends or relationships.

Mouse Dresser
Sep 4, 2002

This isn't Middle Earth, Quentin. There aren't enough noble quests to go around.

Kevyn posted:

I find it funny that they haven't made a Theon Greyjoy one yet, considering all of those loving things look like Alfie Allen.

Yeah, it's kind of odd that there's no Theon, but there's 3 different Jon Snows or Danis. And there's a Grey Worm AND an Unsullied. They finally added Sansa last year, for gently caress's sake.

steakmancer
May 18, 2010

by Lowtax

Botnit posted:

Sorry you don't have friends or relationships.

:chloe:

The pop figures are really cheaply made and look the same, they're pretty easy to critique. I'm glad you used them for an ad hominem attack and a "my girlfriend" drop

drowned in pussy juice
Oct 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I don't have any interpersonal relationships anymore because I kept buying people toys as presents

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

steakmancer posted:

:chloe:

The pop figures are really cheaply made and look the same, they're pretty easy to critique. I'm glad you used them for an ad hominem attack and a "my girlfriend" drop

You don't sound very glad at all, in fact you seem quite upset.

We do appreciate you informing us that $9 toys are cheaply made though. What are your thoughts on artisanal chocolates?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Botnit posted:

You don't sound very glad at all, in fact you seem quite upset.

We do appreciate you informing us that $9 toys are cheaply made though. What are your thoughts on artisanal chocolate brands by chance?

They are super dumb looking and easy to critique, though.

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Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

They seem to look cute enough that they turn into collector's items?

ITT we complain about someone critiquing our critiquement of cheap rear end toys. I, for one, will be taking my next Happy Meal toy back up to the register to inform them of how unsatisfied I am of its design and build quality.

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