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Billy Elliot posted:How good is the xim? I got a $50 other branded mouse/kb box and I have a tough time doing fine precision aiming as it seems to jump and not be smooth. The Xim works pretty awesome with this game. You can crank the sensitivity all the way up and it makes the game much more responsive imo. It definitely helps with precision too, I didn't bother using my scope 99% of the time I was trying to snipe. I'm not gonna pretend like it doesn't give a huge advantage because it absolutely does, but I don't care, it's much easier on my old man hands during long play sessions.
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Billy Elliot posted:I REALLY want a Battle Royale using the whole map. I was roaming in the PvE area last night and there are so many good spots to perch yourself on a roof or alleyways to have fights on. They have the elevated subway track park as well which will be nice. Holy poo poo this would be amazing.
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Billy Elliot posted:How good is the xim? I got a $50 other branded mouse/kb box and I have a tough time doing fine precision aiming as it seems to jump and not be smooth. Very very good. Once the official profile comes out, will be even better. The only downside to it right now is the grenade and buff selection. It's possible but a bit fiddly. You have to set a 'turn assist' key that you press and hold with the appropriate key to select which grenade you are going to use, then move the mouse in the direction you want to select, then release the grenade key then the turn assist. It's only a problem when you want to switch. Otherwise it's easy. It's basically god mode in fps games on a console. I went from a .70 or so kdr in BF4 to 3:1, quickly.
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Billy Elliot posted:I'd like it if you could perch or lean over more edges. So many rooftops that I'm stuck at leaning on or the angle of attack is bad for shooting below. Some other small rooftop areas I could walk on but it wouldn't let me jump on them. They said that one of the DLC or something will turn the entire map into the Dark zone.
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I had one drop that had a +20% stability bonus built in and it was pretty rad. I think armor on players is straight up dmg resistance cause i was shooting a rogue once, and where it would do like 500 dmg to an enemy per bullet, this was barely doing like 120 per bullet. Also pump shotguns are useless in pve because you can't even chain stun guys at point blank range and this makes me sad.
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Dexo posted:They said that one of the DLC or something will turn the entire map into the Dark zone. This is still so bizarre to me. edit: It would be cool if they could make the dark zones a little more dynamic and have it move through different parts of the city and make the take-over a gradual thing.
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Ehud posted:This is still so bizarre to me. Well, in the lore I think the DZ was an attempt at quarantine that ended up failing. It had walls/guard posts set up around it, but then the virus spread outside the DZ and took out the city. Now the Dark Zone is just a no-go for the JTF or any authority figures and is just gangs fighting gangs (hence why no civilians are in the DZ). I suspect the "Whole map is the DZ" DLC will be along the lines of the Government has pulled out any The Division is the last line of defense against pure anarchy or something.
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Morter posted:So where's the (most reliable) place to get the gold edition for the cheapest? Funstock or Gamesplanet?
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Tide posted:Very very good. Once the official profile comes out, will be even better. The only downside to it right now is the grenade and buff selection. It's possible but a bit fiddly. You have to set a 'turn assist' key that you press and hold with the appropriate key to select which grenade you are going to use, then move the mouse in the direction you want to select, then release the grenade key then the turn assist. It's only a problem when you want to switch. Otherwise it's easy. Xim worked really well for me, too. Only complaint was grenade selection and emotes. Not sure how they'll address it when the smart translator comes out.
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So Logitech is doing a promotion for some keyboards, if you buy the keyboard you get The Division for freesies. What stops a person from going to Best Buy, getting the code for the digital copy, and then returning the keyboard?
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:So Logitech is doing a promotion for some keyboards, if you buy the keyboard you get The Division for freesies. What stops a person from going to Best Buy, getting the code for the digital copy, and then returning the keyboard? I would imagine it comes with a scratch off code or something, no code no refund. If it's just off the receipt then idk That is a hell of a deal though, since unless you want flashy light nonsense the keyboards don't run much higher than the cost of the game itself. They must be selling them at cost
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el B posted:Xim worked really well for me, too. Only complaint was grenade selection and emotes. Not sure how they'll address it when the smart translator comes out. You have to use the turn assist function
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DreamShipWrecked posted:That is a hell of a deal though, since unless you want flashy light nonsense the keyboards don't run much higher than the cost of the game itself. They must be selling them at cost What? The keyboards are like $160. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g810-orion-spectrum-rgb-gaming-keyboard I mean if you REALLY want that keyboard and The Division it's a decent deal but otherwise...
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I would imagine it comes with a scratch off code or something, no code no refund. If it's just off the receipt then idk Used to run promos like this when I worked in PC Hardware sales. Usually both parties will give up part of their revenue, but the split varies. Sometimes the promo is just initiated by one party and they buy the licenses at a discount from the software company. It's always a little different depending on who it's designed to help.
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Deakul posted:This game doesn't even have a loving jump button what the gently caress is this poo poo jesus christ the casualification of gaming never ceases to loving astound me, gently caress this poo poo. There's a "parkour" mode in the PC options that lets you automatically vault over stuff if you're sprinting. I didn't like it but the option is there. I didn't actually go rogue the entire time I played but I had a question. If you attack someone who is already rogue do you get flagged as rogue as well?
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I would imagine it comes with a scratch off code or something, no code no refund. If it's just off the receipt then idk
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eSporks posted:The "cost" of a digital game is $0. Say what now
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I've played in both betas now and my primary take-away is that the penalties for death in the dark zone are too high. Losing such a large percentage of your cash if you die while rogue means the only way someone will go rogue is if they don't give a poo poo, or get flagged accidentally. Or if you just spent 95% of your sweet DZ cash on a high tech weapon and want to take it for a spin :-) I had a group of three walki up to me all casual and one of them said in a teenage voice, "just shoot him in the head, teehee". Thanks proxchat. Went rogue, liberator'd them and went my merry way. That felt ... LIBERATING. (yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah) I wish there was a "whistle a happy song" emote. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Rabble posted:There's a "parkour" mode in the PC options that lets you automatically vault over stuff if you're sprinting. I didn't like it but the option is there.
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mcbexx posted:Or if you just spent 95% of your sweet DZ cash on a high tech weapon and want to take it for a spin :-) These guys are the best. Guys who dont seem to understand how proxy chat works at all and try and set up obvious ganks.
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Tide posted:Say what now
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Rabble posted:If you attack someone who is already rogue do you get flagged as rogue as well? No, rogue agents can be attacked without consequence. Just be careful not to get baited by nerds plinking at you with pistols. They'll get a little warning chevron but not actually go rogue.
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eSporks posted:He was talking about them selling a keyboard "at cost" in the context of a bundle with a digital game. The words "at cost" means the cost to the manufacturer for time and materials to build that product. It does not include research and development or engineering, just the amount of a money it costs the company to manufacturer that one specific keyboard. A digital game does not cost anything to make as there is nothing to make. Its just bandwidth. This is why those bundles exist. Both companies get advertisement off it and the game company can afford to sell their product "at cost" or "near cost" because there is no cost. Someone has been reading TorrentFreak again
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Someone has been reading TorrentFreak again
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I don't accept your reality. I want dancing in this game. Would this fail, I want a "/reading a newspaper" emote (directly from City of Heroes) or a "/umbrella" emote (from Aion) Come on!, imagine you are patrolling the darkzone and you find a group of people reading newspaper, or a dude in the middle of a snow storm with a umbrella. It just loving make sense.
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Yodzilla posted:What? The keyboards are like $160. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g810-orion-spectrum-rgb-gaming-keyboard  If you want to do this deal buy the keyboard off Amazon. I got two codes one in my email and one in the box and also the keyboards are about $40 cheaper on Amazon when I bought mine. Someone else ordered a keyboard and didn't get two keys but at least you can get a neat keyboard and the game for free. Don't buy off Logitech website!
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Dandywalken posted:My thoughts exactly. SCAR-H was hit too hard, M14 loving owns. LMGs were nice when I had a 57 round mag and could keep pressure on a guy but my time to kill was so slow. I liked assault rifles but towards the end of beta I swapped to SMG and M14 as my two weapons and only swapped to am assault rifle when I can out of SMG ammo during manhunt status and playing the waiting game. Lblitzer posted:This game would benefit greatly from organized PVP games. I'd love to go head to head with people much like the Crucible on Destiny. I don't know if a capture the flag/point mode fits in this. I'd rather see squad based PvP if there is an organized mode. Don't know if it was here or elsewhere I read a suggestion like cops and robbers. Where one team is trying to rob a bank or something. You swap sides and whoever does the objective faster wins. I'd just like Clan wars. So you can full and open kill clan's you declare war on. They'll be colored orange or something like that, no wall hacks like rogue status either. Make clan's small (like 8-12) so you don't have a full zone of players declaring war on everybody. Maybe make each DZ only allows 2 squad from each clan in the instance.
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Dandywalken posted:My thoughts exactly. SCAR-H was hit too hard, M14 loving owns. I was a big fan of the M1A/M14, but even more so the legendary version of the RPK. That thing tears people up, it's very easy to control on full auto and get lots of headshots with, and with the mods I used it had a 58 round magazine. By far the best gun I used between the two betas. I didn't try the legendary assault rifle this time around but the RPK was substantially better than the one in the first beta. That said, I think I like the M249 even better and might have used it over the legendary RPK if I had found a purple one. That huge magazine is so advantageous vs groups of players.
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Dexo posted:They said that one of the DLC or something will turn the entire map into the Dark zone. Do you have a link or something about that? I tried finding info about that in a brief search and didn't see anything concrete. I'm wondering if it's people misunderstanding the fact that when you hit max level the Dork Zone repopulates so you can run all around inside it to have new challenges. If they had the entire game world as the DZ that would on the one hand be cool but on the other be annoying in that people would be getting occasionally griefed while trying to do missions / story quests. Unless they give you a means to opt out of it which I assume they would.
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Dandywalken posted:These guys are the best. Guys who dont seem to understand how proxy chat works at all and try and set up obvious ganks. I'll admit - I was one of them. I went three days in the beta without hearing a single person say anything (PS4) so I just assumed voice chat was party only. Only after we did that exact thing (surround a guy and count to three before shooting him) did I realise proxy chat was a thing.
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I did fake proxy chat to people to make them attack us first. Walk past a group and say in proxy, "hey, did they have loot bags? We should kill them if they have loot bags. Let's follow them and wait for them to attack NPCS and we'll gank them. I think they spotted us, hide behind the car until they go away. Ok, want to gank the now? gently caress it let's go, 1, 2, 3" and then shoot a non lethal grenade at them or just fire your gun like you are Stevie Wonder and only hit 1 or 2 shots to make them think they're being fired upon.
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Billy Elliot posted:I did fake proxy chat to people to make them attack us first. Walk past a group and say in proxy, "hey, did they have loot bags? We should kill them if they have loot bags. Let's follow them and wait for them to attack NPCS and we'll gank them. I think they spotted us, hide behind the car until they go away. Ok, want to gank the now? gently caress it let's go, 1, 2, 3" and then shoot a non lethal grenade at them or just fire your gun like you are Stevie Wonder and only hit 1 or 2 shots to make them think they're being fired upon. Yep. I have Push to talk turned on. While also in a mumble with a different push to talk key. Other player's only hear exactly what I want them to hear and it's great.
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lilspooky posted:Do you have a link or something about that? I tried finding info about that in a brief search and didn't see anything concrete. I'm wondering if it's people misunderstanding the fact that when you hit max level the Dork Zone repopulates so you can run all around inside it to have new challenges. I would assume it's an opt-in thing.
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eSporks posted:He was talking about them selling a keyboard "at cost" in the context of a bundle with a digital game. The words "at cost" means the cost to the manufacturer for time and materials to build that product. It does not include research and development or engineering, just the amount of a money it costs the company to manufacturer that one specific keyboard. A digital game does not cost anything to make as there is nothing to make. Its just bandwidth. This is why those bundles exist. Both companies get advertisement off it and the game company can afford to sell their product "at cost" or "near cost" because there is no cost. Actually you are wrong in this case. When a retailer gets something "at cost" its the price of the product from the distributor (which can sometimes be the manufacturer). If its from the manufacturer its the sum of what it costs them to produce the product, plus their profit. If its a distributor its the manufacturers price, plus the distributors profit margin. Finally the retailer adds their profit margin to the their cost and you get the final retail price. Digital products have value like anything else, the cost to manufacture it was the development time, and advertisement. when you are talking tens to hundreds of millions of dollars to make a game in this case you have to sell a lot of copies to break even, and of course no company does things just to break even. In this case, bundling a game with a keyboard, Logitech and Ubi have an agreement, the game adds value to the keyboard, but it doesnt effect the cost of the product for bestbuy. Just the value of the product to the customer. Ubi is getting advertisement (which is always very expensive anyway) and possibly royalties on sales of this sku. Logitech is getting added value for the customer which should translate into increased sales of the sku. Its also possible that Logitech has a base rate agreement and purchases keys of the game to bundle with their keyboard, but they anticipate that they make more money on selling the $160 keyboard than what it cost them to put the game in the box (key code). Especially considering that these are not new keyboards and their manufacturing chains are already established for them. LumberingTroll fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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