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Namtab posted:Can't you walk or cycle? not over water, lad
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what are your feelings on pedalos?
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Mar 2, 2016 22:30
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There is the Tilbury ferry, though.
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Mar 2, 2016 22:31
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XMNN posted:what are your feelings on pedalos? I think Adam Johnson is getting what he deserves
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Mar 2, 2016 22:31
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Spangly A posted:not over water, lad Swim
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Mar 2, 2016 22:36
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XMNN posted:has there ever been a toll that was supposed to pay for the construction costs that got cancelled?
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Refugees? The EU is the real victim of this menacequote:Russia and Syria are deliberately using migration as an aggressive strategy towards Europe, the senior Nato commander in Europe has said. Thanks very helpful you gently caress
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Mar 2, 2016 22:49
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Seems plausible.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:00
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Pissflaps posted:Seems plausible. You know what is also plausible? Migrant time bombs!! All of them are in fact bombs waiting to go off and they don't even know it! Walking by with their lives and *BOOM*, a massacre of epic proportions. The white people will get scared and panicky, they will look at people who aren't white and look foriegn with the sight of seeing an bomb in front of them. That's what I would do if I were an evil socio/psychopath with no remorse for humanity or at the least, brits.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:09
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Oberleutnant posted:loooooooooooool Errrmm clearly doent understand technology and voted against same sex marriage that will do quote:Whittingdale was among the 175 MPs who voted against the Same-sex Marriage Bill in 2013.[8] In 2014 Whittingdale along with six other Conservative Party MPs voted against the Equal Pay (Transparency) Bill which would require all companies with more than 250 employees to declare the gap in pay between the average male and average female salaries.[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Whittingdale e: ok he did smell pretty bad when i met him but thats not really fair he might have just had a long day or something
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at least if xenophobia wins we get to see a massively underskilled Europe tear itself to shreds and lie ruined by the dominance of China, India and Brazil during the great food and antibiotic shortages to come the moral victory is ours, comrades
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Mar 2, 2016 23:12
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There absolutely are criminals, extremists and fighters among the migrants. The vast majority of them aren't anything of the sort, but I guarantee they're there. The idea is that saving hundreds of thousands from death in Syria is worth the elevated risk of a few hundred deaths in Europe. The fun doesn't come from insisting that every single migrant is a saint but from watching anti-refugee people try to explain why they think that isn't a good trade without admitting it's because Europeans are white.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:22
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:The fun doesn't come from insisting that every single migrant is a saint but from watching anti-refugee people try to explain why they think that isn't a good trade without admitting it's because Europeans are white. I didn't say it was a good reason.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:25
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Yeah but instead of the problem being the EU's utter failure to handle the issue in a coordinated way as a union, it's actually all the fault of evil Russia and by letting migrants in we're letting the enemy win
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Mar 2, 2016 23:28
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baka kaba posted:Refugees? The EU is the real victim of this menace His name is Breedlove? I am living in a fictional universe and I claim my five pounds.
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Mar 2, 2016 23:38
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Well sure, every time a nuclear war didn't happen we got moved into a less likely alternative universe.
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Guavanaut posted:Well sure, every time a nuclear war didn't happen we got moved into a less likely alternative universe. We're all just a Philip K. Dick acid dream I guess.
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JFairfax posted:if you live within spitting distance of a motorway junction you aint in the goddamn countryside you loving morons And even if they were, a field is just a lovely lawn that makes somebody money, maybe. They don't even look nice, it's not like they're losing deciduous woodland or anything. Which is another thing, what do you want to bet these are exactly the same people paving over their front gardens to make room for another lexus, collectively eroding their town's flood resistance? XMNN posted:what are your feelings on pedalos? NO gently caress YOU DAD's mum mishears, and gets a case of the vapours at the thought of a bunch of pedalos moving in down the street. Guavanaut posted:Well there is another reason, it's because deaths that happen far away are less psychologically troubling and easier to put out of mind than ones closer to home. It is a strong reason though. It's the same thing that makes people roll their eyes and tell you to stop being melodramatic when you call IDS a murderer, or point out that death is the most likely outcome of any "send 'em back" policy.
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baka kaba posted:Yeah but instead of the problem being the EU's utter failure to handle the issue in a coordinated way as a union, it's actually all the fault of evil Russia and by letting migrants in we're letting the enemy win I don't think that means we should shut the borders, though, because unlike Mr Breedlove I haven't been specifically trained to think of groups of people as less like groups of people and more like those little triangles you move around in Risk.
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Renaissance Robot posted:NO gently caress YOU DAD's mum mishears, and gets a case of the vapours at the thought of a bunch of pedalos moving in down the street.
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Renaissance Robot posted:It is a strong reason though. It's the same thing that makes people roll their eyes and tell you to stop being melodramatic when you call IDS a murderer
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http://fortune.com/2016/03/01/uk-investigatory-powers/ Apparently the final draft of the Investigatory Powers Bill is done. "Data includes any information that is not data. Data includes data which is not electronic data and any information (whether or not electronic). Home Office. 
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Kaislioc posted:http://fortune.com/2016/03/01/uk-investigatory-powers/ Ah they're using the physics/astronomy definition of data, i.e. everything that hasn't been sucked into a black hole.
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namesake posted:Ah they're using the physics/astronomy definition of data, i.e. everything that hasn't been sucked into a black hole.
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namesake posted:Ah they're using the physics/astronomy definition of data, i.e. everything that hasn't been sucked into a black hole. Pretty much their same definition of 'psychoactive' too. Oh god...is data psychoactive too? 
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TACD posted:It's troubling that information beyond an event horizon is currently outside the reach of the intelligence services. Can we allow the existence of such warrant-free singularities?  Pesky Splinter posted:Pretty much their same definition of 'psychoactive' too. 
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Large group of doctors urge government to ban contact Rugby in schools. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35696238 Maybe not as important as the snoopers charter or brexit, but it's one of those things where I honestly have to sit back and think a moment. I enjoyed Rugby because I was poo poo at football and it provided an alternative way to take part in that social element of school. But on the other hand, it does gently caress kids up and there's no real good reason aside from 'character building' (I prefer to read this as social moulding) bullshit given by coaches and whatnot.
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Ocrassus posted:Large group of doctors urge government to ban contact Rugby in schools. loving hell I broke my nose the last time I played rugby and i have to say seriously, harden the gently caress up, you're going to get injuries in any sort of sport and rugby is probably a darn sight safer than american football.
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They could probably reach a middle ground with mandatory protective equipment, as long as that didn't have the same effect as in gridiron football where tackling is replaced with head-first charges. Or gloves in boxing where torso hits were replaced with beating around the head.
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Ludicro posted:I can believe it. My girlfriend and I went on a trip to Great Yarmouth last October, and as expected there had been an incident earlier in the day in the crossing area and the backlog was still clearing. Took a good 2 and a half hours to get through the tunnel. Honestly unless its the dead of night if I was travelling anywhere further north above London that was not in Essex or directly above, I'd take the long way around the M25 as it would be faster. Always weird seeing the place I live and work turn up in UKMT, but yeah. There's a few new housing estates around anyway but people will not. stop. whinging about this sort of bollocks. It's amazing anything gets done in Kent at all.
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Ocrassus posted:Large group of doctors urge government to ban contact Rugby in schools. JFairfax posted:loving hell I broke my nose the last time I played rugby and i have to say seriously, harden the gently caress up, you're going to get injuries in any sort of sport and rugby is probably a darn sight safer than american football. In fairness, American football isn't a massive attraction in British schools. Also, it's not really worrying about broken noses or even broken legs & arms, it's purely a concern about concussion. And it's not as if the discussion is solely around youth rugby: I have vague memories of some chatter about maybe heading a football repeatedly causing micro-concussions and maybe headers should be banned from youth football. Which sounds like the sort of thing that you'd make up to show that it's political correctness gone mad Stew, but I swear it's true. People take concussions really loving seriously now. Maybe it's an over-reaction but after decades of ignoring them that's probably inevitable. Though I did think Brian Moore made a fair point on Twitter, if you can't teach kids how to tackle safely when they are young then suddenly you're going to have a bunch of fully developed adults learning which has a whole added risk.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:There's a grain of truth to it, though. There's no question that Europe has massively mishandled the refugee crisis, but there's equally no doubt that the longer Europe spends tearing itself apart, the longer Assad and Putin have to get their own house in order. Assad would be happy turning Syria into a wasteland so long as it had a port for Russia and a palace for himself, so while he's probably not bussing people to the border or pushing them onto boats, I doubt he's doing much to stop the people that are. Well of course the EU's failure to handle the crisis properly benefits its enemies, that's stating the obvious. But using phrases like "weaponising migration", and then talking about all the dangerous people in amongst the people fleeing to the EU for sanctuary - that would be problematic even without the sheer hostility and xenophobia sweeping the EU at the moment. He's literally recasting refugees as weapons attacking Europe, and the EU's failure to work together as being the victim. He can get to gently caress with his 'just sayin'
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forkboy84 posted:I played rugby in school. Well, I played for the school twice. We got utterly steamrolled both times, and my memory of the first game is pretty much non-existent because I got a big concussion after a hefty tackle (not helped by the fact we barely got any training in so nobody actually showed me how to take a tackle safely), was taken out of the game for about one minute to "catch your breath" & then sent back on. Which is kind of bonkers in hindsight. if you tackle properly in rugby your head shouldn't get hit, I agree that being pushed out on a pitch to play for the school team without any practice is bonkers. My secondary school was in the countryside (think hot fuzz) so it was a state one but had plenty of rugby pitches and you started from year 7.
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Guavanaut posted:They could probably reach a middle ground There already exists a middle ground. It's touch rugby.
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In Ireland you're not allowed to do proper line outs and scrums are non competing until you join the senior cup team level (17+). All players should have to wear a scrum cap or something though and harsher penalties for intentional high tackles. Banning the sport would suck though, I really enjoyed myself.
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Ocrassus posted:Large group of doctors urge government to ban contact Rugby in schools. The long term effects of several repeat concussions is pretty horrific though. And there not as simple to detect as previously thought. It's a huge deal in MMA, boxing and Pro Wrestling right now and has forced several of the top names out after new tests showed extensive brain damage that isn't being allowed to heal but the brain would create new pathways to compensate for the damaged tissue. It's basically why the mortality rate in these professions is so high. Also it has been known to increase homicidal tendencies, see Chris Benoit.
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The effects of a single concussion (ie the brain damage it causes) can persist for months afterwards and it's now very strongly suspected that repeat concussions raise your risk for CTE, which is a fairly horrible way to die as your brain shrivels away. Given that children's brains are still developing it doesn't seem unreasonable to take even more care with them.
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I loving loved playing rugby at school because of the violence, not in spite of it. Kids are going to do dangerous poo poo regardless- (I got knocked out twice in fights, never on the field) train the kids better, fund the NHS more. Otherwise more kids are gonna come out of school with straight noses and no experience of the sheer joy of flattening someone you hate into the mud- and that's a bad thing.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Also it has been known to increase homicidal tendencies, see Chris Benoit. I was always under the impression that that one was a 'roid rage.
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