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Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!
bernie

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satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Only _______ can do good

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

:lol:

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

satanic splash-back posted:

Are you cripplingly self-unaware in your everyday life?

What concerns do you have about a bernie presidency?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Fire Barrel posted:

I think people are beginning to realize that there are more minorities supporting Trump than would appear to be the case at first glance. At the very least, I've seen more articles on the topic. Then again, a lot of people found it weird that minorities and women were supporting Bernie Sanders sooooo I'm not sure people will "get" this since it doesn't fit their narrative.
I've seen anecdotal evidence of some minority support for Trump, but then I also see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMZaBFcxrk

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

satanic splash-back posted:

"I am certain Trump will be the worst president ever" - a millennial who has ALL the facts

Facts: Trump has dumb ideas about how to run the country. He would probably suck at being president because of these dumb ideas and because he has no experience in politics.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
the big stupid elephant in the room about Trump's immigration bullshit is that there is no way he could be more aggressively anti-immigrant than Obama has been already.

Obama has done everything short of building that pointless wall; he has deported more immigrants than Bush did, is paying the Mexican government to get medieval on people from central America so that we don't have the uncomfortable spectacle of woman and children asking for refugee status at our borders, and is keeping people awaiting deportation in horrendous, prison-like conditions. Obama has deported like 2.5 million people. Trump's got his work cut out for him if he's gonna try and beat that record

and gently caress, at least the wall would be some kind of jobs program (the kind that Obama never had the balls to even really try for). We can just pretend it's the modern WPA-style jobs/infrastructure program that we've needed since 2008

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

MrWilderheap posted:

Facts: Trump has dumb ideas about how to run the country. He would probably suck at being president because of these dumb ideas and because he has no experience in politics.

Facts: He's strong and charismatic, he's a great self made man, he says it like it is, Washington needs a shake up, he's got the quick decisive mind of a true leader, he actually cares about America, he'll kick the illegals the hell out.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

I said come in! posted:

I don't want Hillary, just so we are clear. I unironically believe only Sanders will do anything positive.

:ssh: I agree with this sentiment completely.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

MrWilderheap posted:

Facts: Trump has dumb ideas about how to run the country. He would probably suck at being president because of these dumb ideas and because he has no experience in politics.

Trump runs his mouth and people love it but in reality hes a borimgass big city democrat aka a moderate conservative

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!

Funky See Funky Do posted:

he's a great self made man


nah

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

City of Tampa posted:

and gently caress, at least the wall would be some kind of jobs program (the kind that Obama never had the balls to even really try for). We can just pretend it's the modern WPA-style jobs/infrastructure program that we've needed since 2008

We can even do the whole "we built it, we paid for it, it's ours" in twenty years time!

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Dreddout posted:

we built it, we paid for it

but i thought the colombians were supposed to pay for it

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

City of Tampa posted:

and gently caress, at least the wall would be some kind of jobs program (the kind that Obama never had the balls to even really try for). We can just pretend it's the modern WPA-style jobs/infrastructure program that we've needed since 2008

This was the same argument we had with the XL pipeline, it turned out this was not going to really do anything for job growth.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

I said come in! posted:

This was the same argument we had with the XL pipeline, it turned out this was not going to really do anything for job growth.

what? The XL pipline was all about selling Canadian oil to the Chinese, Trump's wall is a loving huge construction project on American soil, they're completely different

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine
You need to stop just saying whatever dumb poo poo comes into your head, dude

Shaquin
May 12, 2007
sure is a lot of jabber about nothing in here, why not sit back and take a moment to appreciate the impending inevitable rise of a Trump helmed freedom fueled reaffirmation of Americas status as the best drat country on this planet

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

City of Tampa posted:

and gently caress, at least the wall would be some kind of jobs program (the kind that Obama never had the balls to even really try for). We can just pretend it's the modern WPA-style jobs/infrastructure program that we've needed since 2008
I thought the point of a WPA-style jobs/infrastructure program is that the infrastructure goes on to have added benefits to the economy, like highways and dams.

Where a wall in the desert sits there and doesn't do anything and also is useless because it doesn't actually stop people from entering the country illegally.

This is amazingly thick but even for GBS I'm ashamed.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

boom boom boom posted:

what? The XL pipline was all about selling Canadian oil to the Chinese, Trump's wall is a loving huge construction project on American soil, they're completely different

Dude, I attended congressional committees on this drat thing, it was a huge deal when I was living in Washington, D.C. this was one of the core arguments for approving the stupid thing.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

I said come in! posted:

Dude, I attended congressional committees on this drat thing, it was a huge deal when I was living in Washington, D.C. this was one of the core arguments for approving the stupid thing.

yeah, but it was bullshit. they said the pipeline would make jobs for Americans because "this pipeline will make it easier and cheaper for Canadian oil to be sold to the Chinese" isn't a really good argument

Danger Mahoney
Mar 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
If Trump actually gets to build his wall and if it actually curbed illegal immigration, I wonder how the sociopolitical landscape of Mexico would change. America's wink-wink pretend border has served as the release valve for poo poo-on Mexican citizens for fifty years. What would happen when a bunch of fed-up proles couldn't just up and hop the border when they think things are too awful/dangerous in their home country?

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

boom boom boom posted:

yeah, but it was bullshit. they said the pipeline would make jobs for Americans because "this pipeline will make it easier and cheaper for Canadian oil to be sold to the Chinese" isn't a really good argument

That's what i'm saying though. It's the same argument being applied to Trumps wall, I don't see how it would be different. The creation of either wont really do anything for jobs.

JB50
Feb 13, 2008

Heres a preview of November for you DnD dorks:

Shaquin
May 12, 2007

JB50 posted:

Heres a preview of November for you DnD dorks:


I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

JB50 posted:

Heres a preview of November for you DnD dorks:


Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

Mange Mite posted:

Trump runs his mouth and people love it but in reality hes a borimgass big city democrat aka a moderate conservative

Yeah pretty much. Still has dumb ideas tho

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

I said come in! posted:

That's what i'm saying though. It's the same argument being applied to Trumps wall, I don't see how it would be different.

Because the wall is a almost unprecedentedly massive construction project on American soil? what aren't you understanding?

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Wikkheiser posted:

I thought the point of a WPA-style jobs/infrastructure program is that the infrastructure goes on to have added benefits to the economy, like highways and dams.

Where a wall in the desert sits there and doesn't do anything and also is useless because it doesn't actually stop people from entering the country illegally.

This is amazingly thick but even for GBS I'm ashamed.

If youre talking classic Keynesian theory you could even just pay people to dig ditches then fill them back in again and still achieve your goals. Having the stimulus spending actually do something useful is just a side benefit


Also just watch as the wall becomes a metaphorical wall with like a few token pieces of actual wall construction for photo ops and then like infrastructure work on roads and stuff near the wall

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Danger Mahoney posted:

If Trump actually gets to build his wall and if it actually curbed illegal immigration, I wonder how the sociopolitical landscape of Mexico would change. America's wink-wink pretend border has served as the release valve for poo poo-on Mexican citizens for fifty years. What would happen when a bunch of fed-up proles couldn't just up and hop the border when they think things are too awful/dangerous in their home country?

As I've said before Trump is the true path to scientific socialism, comrade!

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!

Danger Mahoney posted:

If Trump actually gets to build his wall and if it actually curbed illegal immigration, I wonder how the sociopolitical landscape of Mexico would change. America's wink-wink pretend border has served as the release valve for poo poo-on Mexican citizens for fifty years. What would happen when a bunch of fed-up proles couldn't just up and hop the border when they think things are too awful/dangerous in their home country?

If he repeals NAFTA they might be able to rebuild their own agriculture industry

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Danger Mahoney posted:

If Trump actually gets to build his wall and if it actually curbed illegal immigration, I wonder how the sociopolitical landscape of Mexico would change. America's wink-wink pretend border has served as the release valve for poo poo-on Mexican citizens for fifty years. What would happen when a bunch of fed-up proles couldn't just up and hop the border when they think things are too awful/dangerous in their home country?

They'll probably get massacred by either their massively militarized police or the cartels. Or both working together

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Danger Mahoney posted:

If Trump actually gets to build his wall and if it actually curbed illegal immigration
It won't.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004


Pretty much, the issue is that most illegal immigrants come here originally on visa's, those expire and so they are illegal because they understandably don't want to leave.

STOP LITTERING
Sep 11, 2005

Man the debates are gonna get some crazy ratings. Probably draw some wacky commercials!

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 8 hours!

Corny Cornflake posted:

Man the debates are gonna get some crazy ratings. Probably draw some wacky commercials!

Vince McMahon for moderator

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Corny Cornflake posted:

Man the debates are gonna get some crazy ratings. Probably draw some wacky commercials!

What candidate will the latest Call of Duty endorse?

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

I said come in! posted:

What candidate will the latest Call of Duty endorse?

it's a toss up, Clinton is more likely to start a bunch of lovely little wars, Trump more likely to start one really good war

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

JB50 posted:

Heres a preview of November for you DnD dorks:


I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

boom boom boom posted:

it's a toss up, Clinton is more likely to start a bunch of lovely little wars, Trump more likely to start one really good war

I mean CoD is all about good war, so I would think Trump would be the obvious choice?

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Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Wikkheiser posted:

I've seen anecdotal evidence of some minority support for Trump, but then I also see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCMZaBFcxrk

I'm the Hillary Clinton supporter wearing a Bernie sticker.

Could it be a false flag!? :tinfoil:

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