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Dead Goon posted:It has probably been asked before, but what is NOC? It can also be Number of Children, which is apt for some councils. e: 1948 - Natural Gas and Rail are nationalized, as is the British Mandate of Palestine in a more different way. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 8, 2016 |
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Because a lot of the issues with poor performing schools can be laid at the feet of the LEA's so you would be throwing good money after bad and it's more difficult to fix the LEA's from the national level than it is to just cut them out of the process. An awful lot of councils are hide bound, bureaucratic messes that are run like petty fiefdoms or ideological regimes that just don't have the people in the places that can actually do any good. I used to work in a council that was in the top 20% of councils and if that shitshow was one of the better ones the bad ones would be like The Office but worse. ...in which case merely taking the problem schools out of a chronically broken LEA's control is a half-baked measure.
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LemonDrizzle posted:No Overall Control. Guavanaut posted:No Overall Control. Oh, okay. Simple as that, thanks.
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Kegluneq posted:Generous Jeremy and Nice Nicky, ex nihilo, decide to grant undeserving doctors and teachers respect beyond what they are entitled to. This was all David's clever plan all along you see, and therefore TIBFJC. UKMT May 2016: DCFADP, TIBFJC
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Sadiq Khan saying generic poo poo like that isn't really a cause for concern. It's when he actually does something that goes against common sense is what I'm more concerned about.
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Hoops posted:Remember at the start when people disagreed with Corbyn, he just went "yeah, it's fine, people can have their own opinion, I want an inclusive party where people aren't told what to think". And that it would be a very democratic party that isn't entirely dominated by the leader. Thing is so much of this stuff isn't done in good faith or a spirit of respectful debate, it's done in a deliberate attempt to undermine the leader. I think the anti-semitism thing in particular illustrates this - Corbyn responded quickly and seriously to Ken's idiotic ramblings, but it was still an issue for weeks, fed by the Labour right. If they'd acted in good faith, and were genuinely concerned about antisemitism, they would have praised Corbyn's actions rather than griping about them as a lot of them did. A lot of MPs also seemed to suddenly discover that antisemitism was an issue after Corbyn was elected, and I don't think it's unreasonable to see that as an indication of bad faith. A leader who tolerates the kind of shenanigans we've seen simply is a weak leader. Not that he has a great deal of choice, of course - his position in the PLP isn't such that he can effectively deal with a lot of this (hence a lot of the people who made his life difficult over Syria are still in place).
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Extreme0 posted:Sadiq Khan saying generic poo poo like that isn't really a cause for concern. khan deciding to take on a case against the met while being london mayor would be really funny
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OvineYeast posted:Thing is so much of this stuff isn't done in good faith or a spirit of respectful debate, it's done in a deliberate attempt to undermine the leader. I think the anti-semitism thing in particular illustrates this - Corbyn responded quickly and seriously to Ken's idiotic ramblings, but it was still an issue for weeks, fed by the Labour right. If they'd acted in good faith, and were genuinely concerned about antisemitism, they would have praised Corbyn's actions rather than griping about them as a lot of them did. A lot of MPs also seemed to suddenly discover that antisemitism was an issue after Corbyn was elected, and I don't think it's unreasonable to see that as an indication of bad faith. A leader who tolerates the kind of shenanigans we've seen simply is a weak leader. Not that he has a great deal of choice, of course - his position in the PLP isn't such that he can effectively deal with a lot of this (hence a lot of the people who made his life difficult over Syria are still in place). The PLP are right though. Blairites have done an amazing job in stretching to all voters and showcasing that what they say and do works.  Oh... Jose posted:khan deciding to take on a case against the met while being london mayor would be really funny "MUSLIM DARES TO UNDERMINE OUR POLICE"
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Clive Lewis on Daily Politics today saying 'after the elections sky hasn't fallen in and Sadiq was basically right that it's nice to appeal to lots of people' http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03tj0k4
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Labour are absolutely crushing Bristol city council, gaining seven seats and overall control with a few left to declare. They also missed out on a conservative seat by ONE vote. This means Labour finish the elections controlling the same number of councils, and losing at most 16 seats.
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OvineYeast posted:A leader who tolerates the kind of shenanigans we've seen simply is a weak leader. Not that he has a great deal of choice, of course - his position in the PLP isn't such that he can effectively deal with a lot of this (hence a lot of the people who made his life difficult over Syria are still in place). Note that even if he wasn't tolerant of this kind of thing he'd still catch poo poo for it, see the months immediately following his election when you could see journos warming up their purge/Stalin analogies in expectation of an ideological house cleaning that never materialised. Although given that, yeah, I'd probably prefer if he had somehow managed to ship the whole of the PLP to Siberia. Extreme0 posted:The PLP are right though. Blairites have done an amazing job in stretching the truth and being all things to all people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJAUBy9HkKI
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Peter Kosminsky just called out the Tories and made a speech on how the BBC and Channel 4 should be protected from them. Huge audience appluse as well.
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Foxtrot_13 posted:Some academy chains might invest some cash in the schools but that is not a given as some chains seem to be in it for how large a salary they can pay the staff of the chain (like a certain chain in Norfolk) Rhymes-ish with Lollapalooza? The stories I could tell about that particular person - what's it called when you bang your way to the top?
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Extreme0 posted:Peter Kosminsky just called out the Tories and made a speech on how the BBC and Channel 4 should be protected from them. Will make no difference, people are always saying that and the Tories will do whatever they want with them.
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Alan BStard posted:Will make no difference, people are always saying that and the Tories will do whatever they want with them. Of course it won't. But hey more disapproval voiced on National Televsion on a Award Ceremony viewed across the world, the better.
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Likewise the writer from "Don't Take My Baby" used his speech to say that government attacks on Disability Living Allowance were unacceptable and must be stopped ASAP to huge applause. Also Geoffrey Tambor giving a speech praising Transparent for its contributions to helping people realise being transgender is acceptable and courageous to come out as being what makes it so inspiring to work on.
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Tesseraction posted:Likewise the writer from "Don't Take My Baby" used his speech to say that government attacks on Disability Living Allowance were unacceptable and must be stopped ASAP to huge applause. Liberal Luvvies Attack Austerity The story will just be a moral outrage piece about how actors think they can use celeb status to push their views on people. Namtab fucked around with this message at 21:18 on May 8, 2016 |
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HIGNFY also won and Ian Hislop used it for a Bully Pulpit. Hot drat if the BAFTAs are usually this "gently caress you Tories" I might sign right up to this poo poo.
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Tesseraction posted:Hot drat if the BAFTAs are usually this "gently caress you Tories" I might sign right up to this poo poo. so that'll be the BAFTAS about to be made illegal then
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From the front page of tomorrow's FT: Between this and the suggestion that if we vote to Leave we could be just like Serbia or Albania, I'm starting to think that Gove is a secret Remainer who has infiltrated the Leave campaign in order to discredit it.
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I like George Galloway's idea where we leave and then send George Galloway to Iran. e: tbh it's mostly the second bit but I'm not sure if we can just do the second bit or not. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 22:38 on May 8, 2016 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Seems unlikely as that would require the ability to put the needs of something greater before his own petty ambitions, and we're talking about Gove here. I'm pretty sure that Gove is completely sincere when he talks about his belief that Britain would be better off outside the EU, I'm still at a loss to understand why he thinks what he does though. He's certainly not done much of a job explaining himself to the public thus far.
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I'm pretty sure that Gove wants Britain to leave the EU because he thinks that it'll give him a shot at becoming PM.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I'm pretty sure that Gove is completely sincere when he talks about his belief that Britain would be better off outside the EU, I'm still at a loss to understand why he thinks what he does though. He's certainly not done much of a job explaining himself to the public thus far. Because Britain is Great. He had a whole syllabus based around it
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Cerebral Bore posted:I'm pretty sure that Gove wants Britain to leave the EU because he thinks that it'll give him a shot at becoming PM. That's the only reason Boris is on that side, but going by his work at Education Gove is just delusional.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:That's the only reason Boris is on that side, but going by his work at Education Gove is just delusional. Well, I don't think anybody has accused Gove of being smart.
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https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/729348214177009664 Looks like someone is getting a bit sick of ignoring the snipes from Blairites.
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LemonDrizzle posted:From the front page of tomorrow's FT: Would require believing Gove to be competent, which I've never seen any evidence for.
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Puntification posted:Would require believing Gove to be competent, which I've never seen any evidence for. As I recall, hasn't his time as Justice Secretary chiefly consisted of rolling back all of Chris Grayling's terrible, terrible ideas? I mean, there's the whole 'British Bill of Rights' white elephant, but I don't think anyone's taking that seriously or investing much in the way of resources in it. Speaking of, has anyone bothered examining his proposed prison reforms?
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^^^ yeah beatPuntification posted:Would require believing Gove to be competent, which I've never seen any evidence for. He's actually doing alright as justice secretary, has won support after undoing the damage done by his predecessor Chris Grayling. It's hard to believe he's the same bumbling idiot who made such a hash of education, really.
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How to succeed as Justice Secretary in one day "Yo, everything Grayling did? Put it back how it was. Peace out"
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/729348214177009664 https://twitter.com/CarolineFlintMP/status/729392602026512384 "Hold on" apparently means something completely different to "hang on".
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EvilGenius posted:^^^ yeah beat A lot of Tory supporters are in the legal profession I feel like it wasn't his insightful leadership that precipitated those decisions. But then that might be the fact a poo poo load of friends and family members are in teaching speaking. Guavanaut posted:Blairites should be held. under water until dead? I agree.
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/CarolineFlintMP/status/729392602026512384 I'm pretty sure it's the words before that he takes exception to being rewritten. What he said: "We will hold on" What she quoted: "We are looking to hang on" One is a defiant claim in the face of dire predictions, the other is announcing your only intention is to try to cling on to your existing seats. It's admittedly a petty thing to cause a twitter spat about, but McDonnell is clearly getting tired of every single thing he can possibly say being wrong. He obviously threw himself into the election and they achieved a good result, now he has to deal with his MPs saying in the face of predicted Armageddon he deliberately set the bar too low? gently caress that.
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