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pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


Cascadia Pirate posted:

Some friends and I are going to Vegas the first week of August. I am sure I will have lots of questions, but any recommendations for hotels with really good pools downtown or strip? A lot of our time will probably be spent at the pool so this seems like a good place to start. Look at a mid range place most likely staying Tuesday through Saturday.

I'm a big downtown fan, and the Golden Nugget has a great pool, so I'd say do that.

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Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
So we ended up staying at Oasis/Gold Spike. Cool, stylish, and affordable place--but the other guests were assholes. Two men (separately) banged on our door at like 3-4am saying they either needed to gently caress someone or to gently caress someone up; it took like 20 minutes for security to deal with it. That was unfortunate.

Lotus of Siam is really really good and they actually trusted me when I said I could eat spicy Thai food and didn't give me the "white people spicy" instead.

Thanks especially to all the recommendations for Absinthe. Absolutely the right call, the wife and I loved it.

Overall it was a blast, and I think the city has a real appeal for me even as an abstained from gambling. I'm already starting to plan how to go back for the 2017 USA Sevens rugby tournament next Feb/March.

PS Also I found that walking around with (female) spouse meant I didn't get bombarded by people trying to sell me on strip clubs and escort services.

TheReverend
Jun 21, 2005

Yeah but you trade that for timeshare people who are just as bad.

Glad you had fun though!

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

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TheReverend posted:

Yeah but you trade that for timeshare people who are just as bad.

Glad you had fun though!

Hey you guys want to see a free show tonight?!

MoofOntario
Jan 10, 2007

To Maintain the System the Abusive Power is Sometimes Necessary
-Pappa Brittle

Apollodorus posted:

PS Also I found that walking around with (female) spouse meant I didn't get bombarded by people trying to sell me on strip clubs and escort services.

I had one enterprising fellow tell me if I was bored with that one (my wife), he could get another girl to my room really quick. So I guess its only partially effective :)

Bobalbmi
Sep 25, 2000

Today is the day

JaySB posted:

More of a music venue. With a bowling alley and a restaurant. You'll be fine with GA tix for sure

Awesome - thanks! Food looks good too.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Bobalbmi posted:

Awesome - thanks! Food looks good too.

The fried chicken there is the same as at Blue Ribbon, it's incredible.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Apollodorus posted:

but the other guests were assholes. Two men (separately) banged on our door at like 3-4am saying they either needed to gently caress someone or to gently caress someone up; it took like 20 minutes for security to deal with it. That was unfortunate.


Oh man, I'd have for sure opened the door naked and said "I'm your huckleberry"

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
I no longer have contacts within the industry of manufacturing poo poo for casinos, which means I can tell you what I know from those contacts, so let me just tell you: Those skill-based games you hear about are bullshit.

Imagine Wheel of Fortune, but you have to be really good at some minigame for the top prize to appear on the wheel. You're still not guaranteed to win it, because if it was Tetris and you were a Tokyo Grandmaster or something you could be winning the jackpots up and down the Strip. That isn't sustainable, that isn't how these places work.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



I feel like it's all "skill based gaming"....If anything is +EV to the customer they tend to do away with it. I used to see the Clue slot machine at a bunch of casinos until people figured out there is an optimal time to play the slot because you can be guaranteed to hit the mini jackpot.

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



I'm fairly convinced that if a casino games designer proposed his new invention "Blackjack" in the year 2016 he'd be laughed out of an industry boardroom based on labor costs/EV/ $/square foot alone.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



MrChupon posted:

I'm fairly convinced that if a casino games designer proposed his new invention "Blackjack" in the year 2016 he'd be laughed out of an industry boardroom based on labor costs/EV/ $/square foot alone.

That's pretty much why they keep loving with the odds to make things worse for the player. Also, see the Wynn going to 2x max odds on craps. The real money makers are obviously the slots.

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



I'm always surprised that the poker rooms live on given these corporate calculations. Maybe rakes add up to more than what I realize, or maybe it's just the prospect of guaranteed money (i.e a Craps table could have a bad day/week and actually lose money, while the poker room just slowly rakes it in). I still feel like one day they are going to realize they could put another bank of slots in there and then it will be gone.

Or is the real reason (to generalize) that the men in the poker room have wives on the slots, so it's just necessary to keep them there, like a bench with a TV outside the women's shoe store in the mall?

ManicJason
Oct 27, 2003

He doesn't really stop the puck, but he scares the hell out of the other team.
You're basically describing casinos in the 80s and 90s. The poker boom brought rooms back, and they've been on a slow decline for the last ten years again.

Cascadia Pirate
Jan 18, 2011
Any advice on far out to book a hotel for August?

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


JaySB posted:

That's pretty much why they keep loving with the odds to make things worse for the player. Also, see the Wynn going to 2x max odds on craps. The real money makers are obviously the slots.

The Wynn is 2x max? Jesus. Where have you gone, Benny Binion, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Cascadia Pirate posted:

Any advice on far out to book a hotel for August?

I think 2 months out is optimal but my site will have rates.

goth smoking cloves
Feb 28, 2011

So I am looking to take a trip to Vegas in December I already have the hotel room reserved (Thanks Jay.) but I have been watching plane tickets and just today two of the American Airlines tickets I had been watching have shot up by about $150 to $200 is something big happening around December 10th or is it just an airline being an airline?

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Pretty sure that's airline being airline. I think you might be a bit early to look at flights though

https://www.cheapair.com/blog/cheapair-news/the-best-time-to-buy-a-flight-is-54-days-out-or-is-it/

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


awesomebrah posted:

So I am looking to take a trip to Vegas in December I already have the hotel room reserved (Thanks Jay.) but I have been watching plane tickets and just today two of the American Airlines tickets I had been watching have shot up by about $150 to $200 is something big happening around December 10th or is it just an airline being an airline?

Check flights every weeks or so for the next few months. The fare will probably continue to bounce around a bit. There's definitely no need to rush on a Dec. 10 booking.

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012

awesomebrah posted:

So I am looking to take a trip to Vegas in December I already have the hotel room reserved (Thanks Jay.) but I have been watching plane tickets and just today two of the American Airlines tickets I had been watching have shot up by about $150 to $200 is something big happening around December 10th or is it just an airline being an airline?
That is my birthday weekend and for years the National Finals Rodeo is in Vegas that weekend, it's a big event, and it always seems to drive prices up. I usually go the following weekend, the hotels are empty, rates are super low, and it's not a zoo on the strip.

Vegas is a big place and has events lots of weekends, this may just be confirmation bias. But at least be aware of it.

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider

photomikey posted:

That is my birthday weekend and for years the National Finals Rodeo is in Vegas that weekend, it's a big event, and it always seems to drive prices up. I usually go the following weekend, the hotels are empty, rates are super low, and it's not a zoo on the strip.

Vegas is a big place and has events lots of weekends, this may just be confirmation bias. But at least be aware of it.

That's when I want to come up this year (the weekend of the 16th of December).

However, it's not stupid cheap yet. When does that normally kick in?

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

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CaptainScraps posted:

That's when I want to come up this year (the weekend of the 16th of December).

However, it's not stupid cheap yet. When does that normally kick in?

What's your definition of stupid cheap?

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider

jabro posted:

What's your definition of stupid cheap?

I got two round-trip flights and three nights in a nice suite at the Vdara for under $1,000.00 last year and it came with two cirque tickets.

Imaduck
Apr 16, 2007

the magnetorotational instability turns me on
The week before Christmas is typically super dead and super cheap in Vegas, so probably the week following the 16th. Deals come and go though, so there's no guarantee on what you'll find when.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

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CaptainScraps posted:

I got two round-trip flights and three nights in a nice suite at the Vdara for under $1,000.00 last year and it came with two cirque tickets.

If you're looking for something like that then continuously check wherever you got that deal from. I checked for the weekend you wanted to go and the prices for rooms looked pretty decent to me though.

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012
IMHO when it is *really* dead, like that weekend in December, the deals get really good in the days leading up to the date. Nobody wants to do a huge discount three months out.

However, if the deals don't turn out to be great... you're without a hotel room.

Book something cancelable, and then look for better options.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:
Just thinking some more about our Vegas experience:

- it is a silly place, for sure; I liked it a lot for the combination of very high-quality and slick presentation of extremely crass substance, but my wife was not as much a fan

- the show we saw, Absinthe, was truly excellent; it was really a very old-school production, with no special effects and a great deal of straightforward (albeit amazingly difficult and hugely impressive) feats of skill, strength, and agility, plus some good irreverent semi-improvised humor

- the cab drivers and/or rates seem like a ripoff, but maybe I just didn't know how to get them to do what I wanted

- the people were shockingly underdressed compared to what I expected, but I guess that's because I am too poor (grad student) to hang out at whatever classy lounges still have dress codes

So...any recommendations for coming to see the rugby in Feb/Mar next year?

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

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When the hell did White Castle open here?

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



About a year ago

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

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drat this is the first I've seen it.

Yomofo
Jun 7, 2005

by Cyrano4747
My friend and I are either going to stay at the Hard Rock or the MGM, and we can't decide. He says the Hard Rock is cooler, but the MGM is closer to where a lot of our friends are hanging out. The price difference is only $5 a night, so if anyone has any preference, I'd appreciate some input. Thanks.

jabro
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Yomofo posted:

My friend and I are either going to stay at the Hard Rock or the MGM, and we can't decide. He says the Hard Rock is cooler, but the MGM is closer to where a lot of our friends are hanging out. The price difference is only $5 a night, so if anyone has any preference, I'd appreciate some input. Thanks.

One is on the strip and the other is not. Do you want to Uber/cab it every time you want to do something?

Yomofo
Jun 7, 2005

by Cyrano4747

jabro posted:

One is on the strip and the other is not. Do you want to Uber/cab it every time you want to do something?

Not necessarily. According to their website, they got free shuttles. Doesn't say how often they run.

jabro
Mar 25, 2003

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Yomofo posted:

Not necessarily. According to their website, they got free shuttles. Doesn't say how often they run.

I wasn't talking about the money aspect but the waiting around aspect. But if you have no problem waiting around for a free shuttle then the only big differences are on strip and off strip. If you plan on going to the pool then MGM also has a lazy river.

Yomofo
Jun 7, 2005

by Cyrano4747

jabro posted:

I wasn't talking about the money aspect but the waiting around aspect. But if you have no problem waiting around for a free shuttle then the only big differences are on strip and off strip. If you plan on going to the pool then MGM also has a lazy river.

It's cool, you've convinced me. We're only there for 4 days (time is a factor), and it's walking distance to where some of our friends are staying. Thanks for the advice.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Yomofo posted:

It's cool, you've convinced me. We're only there for 4 days (time is a factor), and it's walking distance to where some of our friends are staying. Thanks for the advice.

I'm curious as to where your friends are staying. Walking distance is a very relative term in 110 degree heat.

Yomofo
Jun 7, 2005

by Cyrano4747

JaySB posted:

I'm curious as to where your friends are staying. Walking distance is a very relative term in 110 degree heat.

Polo Towers? I just google mapped it, I guess it's a 6-7 min walk north up the strip from the MGM.

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Yomofo posted:

Polo Towers? I just google mapped it, I guess it's a 6-7 min walk north up the strip from the MGM.

Ick...Yeah I mean I guess you could walk there. You may want to check the Planet Hollywood though, closer and roughly the same room.

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
For the record, polo towers is a solid place to stay. I usually stay there. And yes PH is closer.

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