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SirDan3k posted:Another version has the guardians loving with kryptionain DNA so that they'd get sick and die if they left Krypton because they were previously a race of space faring conquerors using the power of yellow suns to enslave trillions and Jor El fixed Superman DNA so that he'd survive the trip. In yet another version, the Eradicator bound all Kryptonians to Krypton so they could never leave alive.
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I've been catching up on Supergirl, I was pretty lukewarm at the start of it but I think I'm somewhat enjoying it now. I watched the Flash crossover last night, and it was a lot of fun. The gag where Cat tells the gang that they look like the racially diverse cast of a CW show made me laugh (although now it's truer than they probably would have known at the time). I think it's definitely the best of all the Marvel/DC shows right now, although that's not too difficult.
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May 16, 2016 10:06
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irlZaphod posted:I was pretty lukewarm at the start of it but I think I'm somewhat enjoying it now. I just don't understand this attitude. Like, surely there's something to watch that won't waste your time as much as something you only somewhat enjoy after viewing a large number of episodes?
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May 16, 2016 14:33
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feedmyleg posted:I just don't understand this attitude. Like, surely there's something to watch that won't waste your time as much as something you only somewhat enjoy after viewing a large number of episodes? Some shows take a while to get good.
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May 16, 2016 16:14
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bobkatt013 posted:Some shows take a while to get good. Some shows numb you with their mediocrity so you think a slight uptick is "good TV".
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May 16, 2016 16:37
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Pretty much. There's plenty of shows that I love which had pretty poor opening episodes, or even seasons. It took Star Trek: TNG about 3 seasons to get properly good (there were some really good episodes in the first 2 seasons, though). I'm willing to give a bit of time for writers (and even actors) to find their feet. SHIELD I dropped after about 8 or 10 episodes, but after Winter Soldier came out I went back and caught up on it to see what effect it had on the series. The writing did improve somewhat in that season, and the 2nd season was a lot better overall, although the 3rd has been a bit crappy. I didn't think Supergirl was bad as such, I just wasn't crazy about it. The characters have grown on me a little bit though.
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May 16, 2016 16:38
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Star Trek never gets good.
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May 16, 2016 16:41
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Aphrodite posted:Star Trek never gets good. You know besides being one of the most influential tv shows ever created.
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May 16, 2016 16:48
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bobkatt013 posted:You know besides being one of the most influential tv shows ever created. consequently, I loving love Star Trek and recently started SG-1 since I've never seen it and I'm way more into it than I thought I would be. They're very upfront about the Star Trek influence and it was easy to get into even though I haven't seen the movie since I was a kid.
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May 16, 2016 18:12
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bobkatt013 posted:You know besides being one of the most influential tv shows ever created. Influence and quality are two different things, you know that, right?
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Aphrodite posted:Star Trek never gets good. We're fighting now.
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May 16, 2016 18:17
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Will it be badly choreographed?
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May 16, 2016 18:26
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May 16, 2016 18:28
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Aphrodite posted:Will it be badly choreographed? Our budget is this bag of doritos and all the change in my couch.
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May 16, 2016 18:29
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As someone who mostly enjoys Star Trek, it's honestly way more bad than good.
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May 16, 2016 18:31
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Endless Mike posted:As someone who mostly enjoys Star Trek, it's honestly way more bad than good.
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Skwirl posted:Influence and quality are two different things, you know that, right? Yeah but the original series is still really really good.
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irlZaphod posted:Only if you include the bad spin-offs, which nobody in their right mind should. EDIT: "Star Trek is good unless you count the bad parts!" Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 19:33 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 18:53
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Endless Mike posted:Half or more of the movies the movies, Voyager, Enterprise, the first two seasons of TNG and DS9, and a not-insignificant numbers of episodes of TOS, TNG, and DS9 are skippable at best. That's not even getting into the troves of terrible official fanfiction that no one should actually read.
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May 16, 2016 18:57
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irlZaphod posted:Only if you include the bad spin-offs, which nobody in their right mind should. The bad spinoffs include: Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Every movie but Khan and ST09
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Lemme just say of The Expanse since the topic of Star Trek has come around...DrProsek posted:The show takes place in a Sci-fi future where Earth and Mars are galactic superpowers who have colonized the asteroid belt/minor planets around them. twistedmentat posted:The posters I saw showed someone in a space suit floating in space and the caption "We've gone to far!" made it sound like it was about an space exploration that goes wrong because they went to a part of space that mad them go mad. Space Madness! First off, calling them galactic superpowers is a minsomer. It's very much not galactic-scale -- one of my favorite parts about The Expanse is that the universe is about as close to real physics as we've seen in a sci-fi show. There's no FTL travel, and just getting from Earth to Mars can take like a month of sitting around. Accelerating at a decent clip needs everyone to be in a crash couch and sudden maneuvers lead to broken bones and stuff. Growing up in space means to a ton of developmental problems with bone structure, incidence of cancer is high, and life is terrible when you have to worry about paying for water and air. In some ways the Expanse is the opposite of Star Trek, when it comes to hopefulness and optimism about the human condition. There's no real exploration since we have no way to get out of the solar system. People call the Expanse a sci fi Game of Thrones and I think the comparison does hold some weight -- there are no tits or incest in the Expanse, but in general if GoT is about how even in a fantasy world with magic human beings will still be horrible pieces of poo poo to each other, The Expanse is that in space. We've colonized another planet and spread out into the solar system, but none of that fundamentally changed the fact that most people in power are greedy assholes with self interest in mind. It's a good show, but it does start slow. I think every episode is a little better than the last one all the way up to the finale. Give it one or two even if the first doesn't grab you. Note: I also have read the first few books and some of the above does change but spoilers and it'll be like 4 seasons before most that stuff anyway. General points still stand.
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feedmyleg posted:The bad spinoffs include: Wait, so you think Voyager of all things was the good Star Trek?
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feedmyleg posted:I just don't understand this attitude. Like, surely there's something to watch that won't waste your time as much as something you only somewhat enjoy after viewing a large number of episodes?
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Sefer posted:Wait, so you think Voyager of all things was the good Star Trek? He probably forgot about it, which is really the best approach to Voyager.
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Endless Mike posted:Half or more of the movies the movies, Voyager, Enterprise, the first two seasons of TNG and DS9, and a not-insignificant numbers of episodes of TOS, TNG, and DS9 are skippable at best. That's not even getting into the troves of terrible official fanfiction that no one should actually read. Endless Mike posted:He probably forgot about it, which is really the best approach to Voyager.  But seriously TNG and DS9 were both excellent, with some low points (I don't even like writing off the first 2 seasons of them because there is some really good stuff in there).
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feedmyleg posted:The bad spinoffs include: I will loving fight you
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Less than a week until Preacher premiers.
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I like most of TOS / TNG and DS9 until it tried to be Babylon 5. I can't believe there hasn't been a Trek show for 11 years. I look forward to the new one next year.
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Anyone want to take bets on who dies during tomorrow's Agents of Shield season finale? My best friend thinks it'll be Fitz or Simmons since the show seems to actively abhor them being happy; I personally am hoping Lincoln counts as a "member of the team" so that he can go be boring somewhere else.
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wyntyr posted:Anyone want to take bets on who dies during tomorrow's Agents of Shield season finale? My best friend thinks it'll be Fitz or Simmons since the show seems to actively abhor them being happy; I personally am hoping Lincoln counts as a "member of the team" so that he can go be boring somewhere else. My cynical hunch is soldier "suddenly got a name, speaking role and rocket launcher" from the Kree episode.
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Hopefully Daisy.
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Toxxupation posted:Wait the Kree are in Agents of Shield now? They have been since season one as Kree blood was used as part of the process of bringing Coulson back to life.
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Toxxupation posted:Wait the Kree are in Agents of Shield now? Since awhile now. Yo-yo is your goner, book it.
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Is Agents of SHIELD actually good or is it what I suspect, it fumbling to and flailing at better-known Marvel storylines and concepts? Like, would watching it be a series of cool deep cuts to MU stuff that would never show up in the MCU proper or is it a bunch of also-rans pretending to be important? I ask because the Agents of SHIELD comic feels really fake and weird and kind of almost like fanfiction despite being 616 canon and I'm wondering if the tv show has that same sort of weird unreality to it as well.
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Good is such a relative term that if you go in expecting to hate it, you're gonna hate it.
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If people say it's good, I'll give it a shot approaching with an open mind, but the early extreme negativity (and how everyone insisted it "got good after Winter Soldier") combined with what I've anecdotally seen doesn't exactly inspire confidence. On the other hand, though, I really love stuff like the Kree (and the Inhumans) so I'd be interested in a TV show that deals with that as a concept. Basically my question is is it good or good because it's the only MCU TV show that deals with larger-scale threats and ideas?
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Toxxupation posted:If people say it's good, I'll give it a shot approaching with an open mind, but the early extreme negativity (and how everyone insisted it "got good after Winter Soldier") combined with what I've anecdotally seen doesn't exactly inspire confidence. On the other hand, though, I really love stuff like the Kree (and the Inhumans) so I'd be interested in a TV show that deals with that as a concept. There's a few enjoyable bits but it's no better or worse than Flash or Arrow at this point.
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*shrug* I like it. As far as what the seasons are like, some spoilers for general flow: Season 1: kinda bland macguffin-of-the-week stuff first half until the mid-season Hydra reveal, then it's the Main Team salvaging what they can as the rest of Shield falls apart, scrambling to keep previous-episode macguffins out of Hydra's hands, and fighting cyborg supersoldiers. Season 2: Shield is now "dead", running in the shadows to clean up Hydra remnants. The Main Team comes into conflict with more survivors of the schism who formed their own Shield. Artifacts Hydra is pursuing lead the team to a hidden colony of Inhumans, the leader of whom is Skye's mother and has her own motives to she keep her people safe. Season 3: Terrigen is out in the wild, Shield is back in a "working for the President but secretly" fashion, and they're trying to find people who turn into Inhumans and help them before they hurt anyone or bad guys capture them. The Secret Warriors are assembled, and everyone tries to stop an ancient Inhuman who's going to kill everyone he can't brainwash. I mean, it's not fine art.
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Toxxupation posted:If people say it's good, I'll give it a shot approaching with an open mind, but the early extreme negativity (and how everyone insisted it "got good after Winter Soldier") combined with what I've anecdotally seen doesn't exactly inspire confidence. On the other hand, though, I really love stuff like the Kree (and the Inhumans) so I'd be interested in a TV show that deals with that as a concept. I think the show is legit good, albeit not as good this season as it was in the second season and latter portion of the first season. If you finish season 1 and don't like it, the following seasons won't change your mind. That said, let me tell what it doesn't have: it doesn't have characters making decisions that are anywhere near as bad as the decisions the characters (and writers :v) on Flash or Arrow or Legends make. When the characters have some emotional problem, they actually hash it out, and when someone has a secret, they keep appropriate people in the loop instead of keeping it a secret from everyone until it all comes to a boil. That alone makes it really refreshing.
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