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How will you be voting in the UKEU Referendum?
This poll is closed.
Remain - Keep Britane Strong! 328 15.40%
Leave - Take Are Sovreignity Back! 115 5.40%
Remain - But only because Brexit are crazy 506 23.76%
Leave - But only because the EU is terrible 157 7.37%
Spoiled Ballot - This whole thing is an awful idea 61 2.86%
I'm not going to vote 19 0.89%
I'm not allowed to vote 411 19.30%
Pissflaps 533 25.02%
Total: 2130 votes
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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Darth Walrus posted:

I agree that we need to treat people with less respect.

Eat the rich.

eat the rich, in a respectful way.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Elbows off the table, napkins on lap, people forced to use foodbanks get first refusal of the nicest cuts.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Serotonin posted:

That's only true for general nurses. Definitely not true for mental health where everyone seems to be pretty left wing.

I only know a handful of rmns so it's hardly a representative sample but they all lean right and intend to vote leave.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I did the sky thing and I'm a utilitarian

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jeremy Bentham would be proud of the amount of utilitarians in the UK right now.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Namtab posted:

I only know a handful of rmns so it's hardly a representative sample but they all lean right and intend to vote leave.

You live in a bizarre world then.

Testro
May 2, 2009

TomViolence posted:

Fucksake, the poor boy's getting enough grief from the cops without you interrogating him too.

It wasn't an interrogation; I just find it bizarre that anyone would genuinely not remember forgetting their wallet at a checkout. Routine events tend to blur into one, but when something out of the ordinary happens, you tend to remember it.

(I actually posted because I thought the comment about a paper trail would be helpful.)

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Serotonin posted:

You live in a bizarre world then.

It probably has a lot to do with location. You'd think my fellow rldns would be more left wing seeing as our role is to support the health needs of the most vulnerable minority (a minority where the slurs used to belittle them are sometimes used freely in this thread among many others), but no.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
compassion fatigue is a thing

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

This. I understand it's scary to have the threat of coppers showing up at your door, but shoplifting fifteen quid's worth of stuff from a supermarket is a fixed penalty notice at worst. This would all go away if you stopped calling them up and reminding them about it.

Why do people think telling the police they are innocent is vitally important? I'm pretty sure one of the first things they teach you at police school is that proclaiming innocence is not actually a good predictor of innocence, so do they really think it makes a difference?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Testro posted:

It wasn't an interrogation; I just find it bizarre that anyone would genuinely not remember forgetting their wallet at a checkout. Routine events tend to blur into one, but when something out of the ordinary happens, you tend to remember it.

(I actually posted because I thought the comment about a paper trail would be helpful.)

You're right. His story doesn't add up.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Yo you loving numpties the only two words you should be saying to 5-0 are "no comment".

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
as before: UK law is not US law and the sensibility of saying "no comment" in all situations is much weaker

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


ronya posted:

as before: UK law is not US law and the sensibility of saying "no comment" in all situations is much weaker

Indeed, clearly you should be saying "Don't you know who I am? I'm the 13th Earl of Wensleydale, I went to Eton College & Oxford University, that means you have to let me go because I'm in the same lodge as your boss."

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

ronya posted:

as before: UK law is not US law and the sensibility of saying "no comment" in all situations is much weaker

its helpful to talk to them when your house has been burgled imo

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Jose posted:

its helpful to talk to them when your house has been burgled imo

Are you avin a laugh? Its probably them what loving done it

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Dont break the law, lads

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Oberleutnant posted:

Are you avin a laugh? Its probably them what loving done it

Yeah this is definitely true. Most home burglaries are carried out by police officers.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Namtab posted:

Dont break the law, lads

Or if you do, claim you can't remember doing it. Its that one weird trick. The CPS hates this guy.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pissflaps posted:

Or if you do, claim you can't remember doing it. Its that one weird trick. The CPS hates this guy.
When the judge asks whether you understand the charges against you, say you don't, because 'understand' means 'to stand under' which means if you say no then the law doesn't apply to you and furthermore you are a boat which means that your 'legal name' was actually picked by an online poll.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
"You have asked Pistol_Pete to appear before this court."

*Brandishes birth certificate*

"HERE is the legal personage known as 'Pistol_Pete'; THIS is the person who your laws apply to. Any penalties that you wish to apply for the so-called crime of walking out of a supermarket without paying must apply to this legal personage and not myself. And furthermore..."

*Court security guard tazes me*

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

StoneOfShame posted:

Why? Do they not realise how much money they get for the EU and how buggered they would be without it, I mean they would never have to got to build the ever brilliant peace bridge in Derry.

quote:

NIPSA notes that the big pro and anti EU campaigns represent the various wings of pro austerity big business and that both campaigns rely on jingoism, fear and bigotry to force people to vote. Conference believes that NIPSA and the wider trade union movement must develop an independent campaign that promotes real and meaningful discussion and calls for a UK exit from the EU because it remains a club for the rich and provides no meaningful assistance to workers

Conference notes that the EU: Implements pro austerity economic policies; Advances anti public service policies such as TTIP; Has introduced anti-worker policies that have undermined hard earned terms and conditions of employment and employment rights; Is engaged in /diplomatic and military manoeuvres that are destabilising other regions. Conference therefore calls on the incoming General Council to campaign for exit from the EU and for building a movement to defend working class interests.

Probably worth mentioning that a majority of their general council members are affiliated with the Socialist Party (of Ireland).

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Guavanaut posted:

When the judge asks whether you understand the charges against you, say you don't, because 'understand' means 'to stand under' which means if you say no then the law doesn't apply to you and furthermore you are a boat which means that your 'legal name' was actually picked by an online poll.

You think I'm an ignorant sovereign.
And you've been so many places I guess it must be so.
But still I cannot see If the ignorant one is me
How can there be so much that you don't know?
You don't know.

You think the state has some sort of jurisdiction.
Taxes are just something you must pay.
But I know every STATUTE, STATE and PERSON
In all caps is only a fictitious name

You think the only lawyers who are lawyers
Are the ones who passed the bar and went to school
But if you watch these videos on Youtube
You'll learn how to make the police look like fools

Have you ever stood in court before a gold-fringed flag?
Or asked an officer "am I detained?"
Can you sing with all the voices of the government?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?

Come with me down the street to the post office.
Come sign this declaration with your blood.
Come sign at a fourty-five degree angle.
It's that simple, and then you will be a judge.

The constitution says that I can travel.
I don't need a license to be on this road.
"Drive" would mean I was engaged in commerce.
Your so-called laws are nothing but a fascist hoax.

How hiiiiiiiiiigh can the conspiracy go?
If you taze me now, you'll never know
And you'll never stand in court before a gold-fringed flag
Or ask an officer "am I detained?"
Can you sing with all the voices of the government?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?

You can try to understand the law
But you'll just stand under the law
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?

TinTower fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jun 4, 2016

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012


I tried to see if Dan Hodges had anything to say about this, considering he's been beating both the 'IDS is a decent bloke' drum and the 'Trump should be banned from the UK' drum. He hasn't commented but I did find this gem.

quote:

Most significant was that we now know the identity of the next Republican nominee to be President of the United States. It will be Jeb Bush. It can only be Jeb Bush.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Gonzo McFee posted:

Also Muhammad Ali is dead so it's a pretty poo poo Saturday.

More importantly from a UK point of view, so is Dave Swarbrick.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Gonzo McFee posted:

Also Muhammad Ali is dead so it's a pretty poo poo Saturday.

It's disturbing how well his views have been "sanitised" in the public eye so posh white people can feel like civil rights heroes.

StoneOfShame
Jul 28, 2013

This is the best kitchen ever.

TinTower posted:

You think I'm an ignorant sovereign.
[url=[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvvZ1TEQRB8]]And you've been so many places I guess it must be so.

But still I cannot see If the ignorant one is me
How can there be so much that you don't know?
You don't know.

You think the state has some sort of jurisdiction.
Taxes are just something you must pay.
But I know every STATUTE, STATE and PERSON
In all caps is only a fictitious name

You think the only lawyers who are lawyers
Are the ones who passed the bar and went to school
But if you watch these videos on Youtube
You'll learn how to make the police look like fools

Have you ever stood in court before a gold-fringed flag?
Or asked an officer "am I detained?"
Can you sing with all the voices of the government?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?

Come with me down the street to the post office.
Come sign this declaration with your blood.
Come sign at a fourty-five degree angle.
It's that simple, and then you will be a judge.

The constitution says that I can travel.
I don't need a license to be on this road.
"Drive" would mean I was engaged in commerce.
Your so-called laws are nothing but a fascist hoax.

How hiiiiiiiiiigh can the conspiracy go?
If you taze me now, you'll never know
And you'll never stand in court before a gold-fringed flag
Or ask an officer "am I detained?"
Can you sing with all the voices of the government?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?

You can try to understand the law
But you'll just stand under the law
Can you paint with all the colors of the law?

How dare they do this to the best Disney song, this is a travesty.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!
I got Europhile, unsurprisingly!

Outside the station here in Stockport is a gigantic poster about "Having a Legal Name is ILLEGAL". I can't believe those nutbars have enough money to get something like that.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Taear posted:

Outside the station here in Stockport is a gigantic poster about "Having a Legal Name is ILLEGAL". I can't believe those nutbars have enough money to get something like that.
What does that even mean. Like under English common law you can call yourself what you like as long as you're not perpetuating a fraud and some other edge cases like testifying in court or running for election as an MP, there's no need to even pay for a deed poll, there's a free form.
I don't see how any of that means I'm exempted from paying tax or VAT or needing a driving licence to operate certain vehicles though.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Guavanaut posted:

What does that even mean. Like under English common law you can call yourself what you like as long as you're not perpetuating a fraud and some other edge cases like testifying in court or running for election as an MP, there's no need to even pay for a deed poll, there's a free form.
I don't see how any of that means I'm exempted from paying tax or VAT or needing a driving licence to operate certain vehicles though.

It's more insane sovereign citizen stuff. Beyond that I really haven't got a loving clue.

Rolled Cabbage
Sep 3, 2006

Oberleutnant posted:

Yo you loving numpties the only two words you should be saying to 5-0 are "no comment".

As soon as I saw that I let out a IRL noooooooooooooooo... :negative:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Taear posted:

It's more insane sovereign citizen stuff. Beyond that I really haven't got a loving clue.

http://legalnamefraud.com/

this is their site. its americans trying to spread the message here

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Jose posted:

this is their site. its americans trying to spread the message here

As we all know, there are no differences whatsoever between British and American law so this makes total sense

I mean, even more sense than it made to begin with

e: oh god this website, their "understand" section is just an embedded low-quality video of a guy sitting in front of a webcam, this is great

Taear posted:

Outside the station here in Stockport is a gigantic poster about "Having a Legal Name is ILLEGAL". I can't believe those nutbars have enough money to get something like that.

surely money is just a legal fiction that only applies to boats or something anyway

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

As we all know, there are no differences whatsoever between British and American law so this makes total sense
They do have some commonalities, like both have judges that will tell you to stfu and find you in contempt if you try that poo poo.

Angepain posted:

surely money is just a legal fiction that only applies to boats or something anyway
I looked into living on one and can confirm that your money will rapidly become fictional after all the maintenance.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

StoneOfShame posted:

How dare they do this to the best Disney song, this is a travesty.

But it doesn't scan anything like Hellfire at all?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Kegluneq posted:

But it doesn't scan anything like Hellfire at all?

As much as I love Frollo's Thirst Song, "God Help the Outcasts" is much better. :colbert:

StoneOfShame
Jul 28, 2013

This is the best kitchen ever.

Kegluneq posted:

But it doesn't scan anything like Hellfire at all?

Hellfire is not even top five.

Edit:1. Colours of the Wind 2. A Whole New World 3. Beauty and the Beast 4.I Just Cant Wait to be King 5. I cant choose between I Wanna be Like You and Everybody Wants to be a Cat

StoneOfShame fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jun 4, 2016

Chocolate Teapot
May 8, 2009

Taear posted:

I got Europhile, unsurprisingly!

Outside the station here in Stockport is a gigantic poster about "Having a Legal Name is ILLEGAL". I can't believe those nutbars have enough money to get something like that.

There's a few in Liverpool as well, even going so far as to piggyback on Hillsborough by shoving a big "THE TRUTH" in the middle of the ad. I want to punch the fucker who thought that was a good idea.

TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

StoneOfShame posted:

How dare they do this to the best Disney song, this is a travesty.

Trying to sing that doggerel to "He's a Tramp" is very challenging.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I'm glad we're all talking about Ev'rybody Wants to Be a Cat itt.

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