USPOL July: a foreign freaking power is trying to install a president

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citybeatnik: Mar 1, 2013; You Are All
WEIRDOS

Reason posted:

^ - But the leak mostly didn't have social security numbers either. So my point still stands. Addresses and names are easy simple stuff. Also my experience with federal court is that they have their own rules for pretty much everything. The courts are something that varies state by state and even sometimes court by court for sure.

Thats probably true, but I think that its pretty surprising how easy it is to get personal 'private' information on people. When I realized how much info was available to me at the job with a very very minimal amount of vetting for me acting as a process server its insane how freely available that info was. Whats even scarier is you can call up the company I worked for, say you're trying to serve papers on someone in superior court(they don't require you to file before serving papers in superior court) and ask them to do trace and they can look up license plates and addresses and all that other stuff you might want. Honestly if you think your info is private you're pretty naive.

It had SSNs, DOBs, CCNs, and PPNs man. But, again. WA just sounds like it's behind the times. When loving Texas is doing a better job of it than your state there's some legit issues going on.

And you're still, like, paying for this service of this company. That makes it private and not public.

rscott posted:

Oh my god you guys are still arguing about this dumb poo poo

Not so much arguing as getting clarification. I knew how Texas handled this, now I know how WA handles it. Although this is rapidly approaching "I know a guy at the DMV that can run plates" levels.

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

Insanely. And I see no one (in power) interested in improving this scenario. This poo poo, along with climate change and Mt. Rainier, keep me up at night.

I'm fully aware that my information isn't nearly as secure as I hope it to be. I'd just rather that people have to do a little leg work to get it. Because gently caress you I'm worth a few minutes of your time if you're going to steal my identity.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:47

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# ? May 11, 2024 13:30

Doorknob Slobber: Sep 10, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

citybeatnik posted:

And you're still, like, paying for this service of this company. That makes it private and not public.

Ok if the definition of private is that you paid for it to get the information then I concede the information is private.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:49

Die Sexmonster!: Nov 30, 2005

citybeatnik posted:

I'm fully aware that my information isn't nearly as secure as I hope it to be. I'd just rather that people have to do a little leg work to get it. Because gently caress you I'm worth a few minutes of your time if you're going to steal my identity.

Unfortunately that's entirely up to you. Monitor which servers have your information, clean up what you can, and seriously beef up your home network. You'd be amazed how many home webcams and routers are freely accessible with a simple Google search.

I'm dead serious, I've locked my neighbors out of their router while loving around as an idiot student.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:52

citybeatnik: Mar 1, 2013; You Are All
WEIRDOS

Reason posted:

Ok if the definition of private is that you paid for it to get the information then I concede the information is private.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:53

James Garfield: May 5, 2012; Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

I haven't even taped over my phone and laptop cameras, but I'm not about to post my full name, address, phone number and "I donated to the DNC" on reddit/sanders4president and I would probably get mad if someone did :shrug:

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:53

Bip Roberts: Mar 29, 2005

James Garfield posted:

I haven't even taped over my phone and laptop cameras, but I'm not about to post my full name, address, phone number and "I donated to the DNC" on reddit/sanders4president and I would probably get mad if someone did

Since you're not living 100% off the grid you deserve to have zero privacy in any manner.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:55

radical meme: Apr 17, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

DarkstarIV posted:

So how long until this is dismissed with prejudice? I don't think a class action lawsuit will survive very long in the courts.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/how-to-join-dnc-class-action-lawsuit-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton/amp/

Bernie bros are trying to get Sanders to acknowledge this case.

What relief is that suit asking for?

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:56

citybeatnik: Mar 1, 2013; You Are All
WEIRDOS

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

Unfortunately that's entirely up to you. Monitor which servers have your information, clean up what you can, and seriously beef up your home network. You'd be amazed how many home webcams and routers are freely accessible with a simple Google search.

I'm dead serious, I've locked my neighbors out of their router while loving around as an idiot student.

Might be a little late for that. I've had the rare joy of my SASSmass Santa writing me a letter going "dude make yourself less Google-able".

But then my take on it is that the Chinese government's already got all of my background information so I'm a little more lackadaisical about it. Might as well make the fed actually work to keep up on my ID protection.

# ? Jul 23, 2016 23:56

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

radical meme posted:

What relief is that suit asking for?

For the DNC to reimburse everyone who donated to Sanders' campaign. Probably some other stupid poo poo that a judge is going to look at, sigh, and dismiss while likely giving the lawyer(s) a dressing down.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:03

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Evil Fluffy posted:

For the DNC to reimburse everyone who donated to Sanders' campaign. Probably some other stupid poo poo that a judge is going to look at, sigh, and dismiss while likely giving the lawyer(s) a dressing down.

Why would the DNC reimburse them. They didn't give money to the DNC they gave money to Sanders.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:05

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Evil Fluffy posted:

For the DNC to reimburse everyone who donated to Sanders' campaign. Probably some other stupid poo poo that a judge is going to look at, sigh, and dismiss while likely giving the lawyer(s) a dressing down.

Lololol

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:06

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radical meme posted:

What relief is that suit asking for?

WHEREFORE, Plaintiffs pray for a judgment:
229. For declaratory and injunctive relief declaring illegal and enjoining, preliminarily and permanently, Defendants� violation of and failure to follow the Charter and Bylaws of the Democratic Party;
230. Certification of this action as a class action, designation of Plaintiffs as class representatives and undersigned counsel as class counsel;
231. For compensatory, general, restitutionary, restorative, statutory, treble, and special damages for Plaintiffs against Defendants;
232. Exemplary/punitive damages as against Defendants in an amount sufficient to deter and to make an example of Defendants;
233. Attorneys� fees and costs;
234. Prejudgment and post-judgment interest; and
235. The cost of this suit and such other relief as the court finds just and proper.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:07

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Evil Fluffy posted:

For the DNC to reimburse everyone who donated to Sanders' campaign. Probably some other stupid poo poo that a judge is going to look at, sigh, and dismiss while likely giving the lawyer(s) a dressing down.

Are we sure this isn't a lawsuit started by someone trying to make fun of Sanders supporters?

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:07

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

rscott posted:

Oh my god you guys are still arguing about this dumb poo poo

Toss in an hourly "Clinton is tanking in the polls!! (source: my own rear end)" and welcome to the next six months.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:10

Evil Fluffy: Jul 13, 2009; Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Dexo posted:

Why would the DNC reimburse them. They didn't give money to the DNC they gave money to Sanders.

"The DNC tried to stop Sanders and didn't stay neutral like they claimed they would" is literally the argument of that lawsuit. That's how mind-blowing stupid these people are. If you go to havens of insanity like r/rSandersForPresident you'll find some of that concentrated crazy in true believers.

It's a lawsuit so stupid that when a judge throws it out we're probably going to see these idiots cry about how the judge is part of the corrupt establishment Sanders stood against or something.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:11

Ditocoaf: Jun 1, 2011

SedanChair posted:

Hey we're just using sharp elbows like they are. Nothing we've said about the DNC comes close to what their operatives said about Bernie and his supporters.

The "if you donate to the DNC you get your SSN leaked" situation from Wikileaks seems like a knife. Then again, Wikileaks is from the right, so never mind. I'm just not on board with it like some other leftists. I've had my SSN compromised before and a half-dozen credit cards opened in my name, it sucked rear end and ate up a month of phone calls and stress and has had major lasting consequences. And I was lucky enough to have the free time to take care of it properly.

Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jul 24, 2016

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:14

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Good god, every day that goes by on the internet just makes me come closer and closer to regretting voting for Sanders in the first place.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:14

Wanamingo: Feb 22, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Evil Fluffy posted:

"The DNC tried to stop Sanders and didn't stay neutral like they claimed they would" is literally the argument of that lawsuit. That's how mind-blowing stupid these people are. If you go to havens of insanity like r/rSandersForPresident you'll find some of that concentrated crazy in true believers.

It's a lawsuit so stupid that when a judge throws it out we're probably going to see these idiots cry about how the judge is part of the corrupt establishment Sanders stood against or something.

So they're this cycle's hillaryis44, basically

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:15

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Don't regret it.

I sure don't. Sanders himself(outside of the last month) was a dope candidate who outperformed and showed that there is a desire for progressives voice to be heard in the party.

His crazy rear end diehard fanbase can go kick rocks as far as I'm concerned but he himself was cool.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:16

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Wanamingo posted:

So they're this cycle's hillaryis44, basically

Except they're even louder than hillaryis44 and they represent an even smaller portion of voters.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:17

Nitrousoxide: May 30, 2011; do not buy a oneplus phone

fishmech posted:

Are we sure this isn't a lawsuit started by someone trying to make fun of Sanders supporters?

Doing so would be considered a frivolous lawsuit and make you subject to opposing party attorney fees and punitive damages.

So, I hope some dumbass ruins himself trying to pull a prank on the court.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:17

Joementum: May 23, 2004; jesus christ

(((WELP)))

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:21

Deified Data: Nov 3, 2015; Fun Shoe

Harrow posted:

Good god, every day that goes by on the internet just makes me come closer and closer to regretting voting for Sanders in the first place.

I wouldn't. Sanders was a good candidate, and most of his supporters will retain their ideals while voting for Hillary in November because it's the right thing to do.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:22

Wanamingo: Feb 22, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Joementum posted:

(((WELP)))

Did wikileaks really just go full anti-semite?

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:23

Yinlock: Oct 22, 2008

Joementum posted:

(((WELP)))

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:24

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Joementum posted:

(((WELP)))

More like the Tribes of Israel, right? :haw:

Looks like they've deleted that tweet and replaced it with this

to make it look like their social media guy knew what it was all along.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:24

Deified Data: Nov 3, 2015; Fun Shoe

Wanamingo posted:

Did wikileaks really just go full anti-semite?

I think they're probably referring to people who put brackets in their names ironically, not admitting they have that extension installed (if it still exists). So ESSJEWS

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:24

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Joementum posted:

(((WELP)))

lol

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:25

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"It might have been."; Pillbug

Joementum posted:

(((WELP)))

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:25

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Joementum posted:

(((WELP)))

gently caress these guys.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:26

Harrow: Jun 30, 2012

Dexo posted:

Don't regret it.

I sure don't. Sanders himself(outside of the last month) was a dope candidate who outperformed and showed that there is a desire for progressives voice to be heard in the party.

His crazy rear end diehard fanbase can go kick rocks as far as I'm concerned but he himself was cool.

Deified Data posted:

I wouldn't. Sanders was a good candidate, and most of his supporters will retain their ideals while voting for Hillary in November because it's the right thing to do.

Yeah, I know you're both right. I think I just hate that I did something that associates me with these "the DNC denied us the revolution this country needs, they're no better than Trump!" people. I understand the wish that you could take everything you perceive as broken and fix it all in one fell swoop, in one magical election, but that was never going to happen even if Sanders won the primary and these same people would've turned on him when he failed to enact literally every one of their wishes in the first two months.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:27

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

Bip Roberts posted:

Also the most damning things in the whole leaks are some minor discussions of hypothetical things.

I'd love to see the RNC internal emails during the Trumpening.

I image that Reince sent out at least one email that consisted entirely of the the word gently caress.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:32

Teddybear: May 16, 2009; Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!

You have to remember, Wikileaks is largely run by folks who think it's A-OK to hide in an embassy and claim to be a political prisoner because you won't answer for sexual assault charges. They're not good people.

Also, I may have missed it, but the latest outrage among the diehards is that the DNC sent a request to "pull" an MSNBC segment that was airing. To those who understand politics, it's pretty clear that they meant that they wanted a video copy of the segment, especially since it's followed by them saying "rush transcript." To those who AREN'T up on the terms...

https://twitter.com/zachhaller/status/756971739863654400

At least he deleted the original error and owned up to it. Still have people up in a tizzy about it.

I think the problem is that a lot of those still going Sanders or bust were people who haven't been involved in politics before, and thus every loss and bump is seen as a slight or a conspiracy. If Obama had lost in 2008 to Hillary, you'd've seen a lot of the same. poo poo, I might've been among them.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:32

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

Deified Data posted:

I wouldn't. Sanders was a good candidate, and most of his supporters will retain their ideals while voting for Hillary in November because it's the right thing to do.

Harrow posted:

Yeah, I know you're both right. I think I just hate that I did something that associates me with these "the DNC denied us the revolution this country needs, they're no better than Trump!" people. I understand the wish that you could take everything you perceive as broken and fix it all in one fell swoop, in one magical election, but that was never going to happen even if Sanders won the primary and these same people would've turned on him when he failed to enact literally every one of their wishes in the first two months.

Not sure any of this matters or that the average citizen pays any attention to democratic party infighting. In the end it'll come down to the tradeoff between trump foregoing the vast majority of the non-white vote versus how much of the working class white vote that traditionally voted democrat switches because of putting forward the Nth straight goldman sachs approved candidate.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:32

Tengames: Oct 29, 2008

Pakled posted:

More like the Tribes of Israel, right?

Looks like they've deleted that tweet and replaced it with this

to make it look like their social media guy knew what it was all along.

They just deleted that tweet too.

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:34

BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Lol at people giving loving wikileaks the benefit of the doubt

# ? Jul 24, 2016 00:35

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.