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Anoia posted:$15 for the full game A competitive price compared to other cyberpunk games, like the Deus Ex series. Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jul 28, 2016 |
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Really Pants posted:That's a reasonably competitive price compared to other cyberpunk games, like the Deus Ex series.  ) I know I got my moneys worth from Vall Hall A.Really Pants posted:I have no idea whether to count this as strike #512, or a small mercy Pavlov posted:This game doesn't seem to have LGBT characters as much as it has lesbians in it. That seems to be more about shipping anime girls together than it is inclusion.
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Jul 28, 2016 20:24
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It's interesting how every single drink in the future is made of varying combinations of 5 chemicals/ingredients. Compared to bars with tons of bottles and taps about, at least. And is the list you start with the total sum of drinks the game has?
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Jul 28, 2016 21:13
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Alavaria posted:And is the list you start with the total sum of drinks the game has? No! we have gained one more so far
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Jul 28, 2016 23:18
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Thanks for helping me not get tricked by reviews. Game Informer fuckin loved it. Hey is this basically the game reviewer version of The Aristocrats? A game so painful only reviewers can love it?
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Jul 28, 2016 23:43
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EponymousMrYar posted:The cast is exceptionally girl heavy but strangely enough, for how much sex stuff is in the game, it doesn't make a big deal about being lesbian or bi or whatever. Like, there's one prestablished relationship and then everyone else is more or less a free agent. Jill obviously has something for her boss but Jill's boss is pretty cool and also it's decently down-low/non romantic. It's not really that strange though. A lot of people like fapping to lesbians so they turn up in anime stuff all the time. Hell, there's practically a whole anime subgenre that's just entire casts of ambiguously gay waifus. If a gay guy showed up I'd be surprised. It actually has more guys than I expected for a game about waifus, it's not like there aren't any.
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Jul 28, 2016 23:57
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Skippy Granola posted:Thanks for helping me not get tricked by reviews. Game Informer fuckin loved it. There are plenty of games that don't appeal to me, but it still makes some kind of sense why other people would enjoy them. VA-11 HALL-A is completely boggling. There's all this glowing praise, and it's all the exact opposite of the truth. For now, I'm assuming there's a special ending where the game teaches you how to make the Philosopher's Stone with simple home ingredients.
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Jul 28, 2016 23:59
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Skippy Granola posted:Thanks for helping me not get tricked by reviews. Game Informer fuckin loved it. I think it's going to fall into the usual indie cycle the hot takes turning vicious in a few weeks, but we're not out of the Honeymoon period yet.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:00
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Skippy Granola posted:Thanks for helping me not get tricked by reviews. Game Informer fuckin loved it. Nowhere near the same amount of explosions though. Pavlov posted:It's not really that strange though. A lot of people like fapping to lesbians so they turn up in anime stuff all the time. Hell, there's practically a whole anime subgenre that's just entire casts of ambiguously gay waifus. If a gay guy showed up I'd be surprised. It actually has more guys than I expected for a game about waifus, it's not like there aren't any. Right, but to use your phrasing, there's nothing really to fap to. Like, the nature of the relationships is handled subtly and tastefully, compared to numerous examples which actively pander their groupings to fans. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Jul 29, 2016 00:00
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Pavlov posted:It's not really that strange though. A lot of people like fapping to lesbians so they turn up in anime stuff all the time. Hell, there's practically a whole anime subgenre that's just entire casts of ambiguously gay waifus. If a gay guy showed up I'd be surprised. It actually has more guys than I expected for a game about waifus, it's not like there aren't any. There is a gay guy who shows up later on. I also don't really see how this game is fetishising lesbianism? Like, Betty likes girls and talks about that a bit, but no one makes a big deal out of it and it's far from her only character trait.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:06
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EponymousMrYar posted:It's more like a Micheal Bay movie where the production values are great and the story is there but the execution has holes in it and there's a myriad of flaws that some people can ignore/forgive and others that can't. There are explosions, they're just happening off screen and people keep running in to go "Wow, what a battlefield outside! Really just incredible!" Really Pants posted:There are plenty of games that don't appeal to me, but it still makes some kind of sense why other people would enjoy them. VA-11 HALL-A is completely boggling. There's all this glowing praise, and it's all the exact opposite of the truth. Now you know how I feel about Her Story.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:07
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Anoia posted:There are explosions, they're just happening off screen and people keep running in to go "Wow, what a battlefield outside! Really just incredible!" I liked how last episode's big development was a news snippet on the drat TV. I hope we get to see Jill play a video game, that'd be so meta XD
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Jul 29, 2016 00:17
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Anoia posted:There are explosions, they're just happening off screen and people keep running in to go "Wow, what a battlefield outside! Really just incredible!"
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Jul 29, 2016 00:17
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dmboogie posted:There is a gay guy who shows up later on. I also don't really see how this game is fetishising lesbianism? Like, Betty likes girls and talks about that a bit, but no one makes a big deal out of it and it's far from her only character trait. If a gay guy shows up later I'll give it in the game's favor. I don't think the game is using lesbianism to fetishize its characters much more than it already has. It's just when I see a bunch of lesbianism in something that has already fetishized everyone, I tend to assume the intent is just more of the same. Yar I'm beginning to think that the fact that you don't think people are fapping to this game, and don't think the game encourages this, is the root of why you don't get our problems with it.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:36
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Wait, I'm confused, is it more like Michael Bay or Vladimir Nabokov?
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Jul 29, 2016 00:50
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Zenithe posted:Wait, I'm confused, is it more like Michael Bay or Vladimir Nabokov? Actually, if you look past the "lol Baysplosions" meme and his lovely work on Transformers and the like, you're left with deeply misanthropic stuff like Pain & Gain, showing that when it comes to intensely (and deliberately) unlikable characters and stories about people being poo poo, Michael Bay has quite a bit of skill. If anyone tried to do another film adaptation of Lolita, they could do much worse for a director than Michael Bay, given that fact. 
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Jul 29, 2016 00:58
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Pavlov posted:If a gay guy shows up later I'll give it in the game's favor. I don't think the game is using lesbianism to fetishize its characters much more than it already has. It's just when I see a bunch of lesbianism in something that has already fetishized everyone, I tend to assume the intent is just more of the same. See, I don't think people are fapping to this game either? Like, there's literal porn on Steam they could be getting instead. None of the characters here are even dressed very revealingly? Dorothy is handled poorly but I still don't think that by fumbling the writing the devs are pedos, or they were trying to attract the "pedo audience" with her.
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Jul 29, 2016 00:58
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If our videos and this thread haven't convinced you of that yet, then I doubt anything is going to.
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Jul 29, 2016 01:08
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I think there probably are people getting off to this game, but that's because people get off to a lot of different things. I'd don't think that's the intention of the game though. I think the writing has been severely fumbled but earnest in the premise. Mainly because if this game was meant to be fap-bait it would probably be somehow more obnoxious and obvious about it and Donovan/Ingram would not exist, or it would have a more interactive gameplay system beyond give people drinks and decide if you want to give them alcohol. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Jul 29, 2016 01:08
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I have trouble believing a game that describes itself as "about waifus" but also contains the line "anime was a mistake" can be unironically about waifus. This is day 4 and there's like 20 or so, I'm willing to wait and see. Maybe they're just not very good at this satire thing?
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Jul 29, 2016 01:10
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Zenithe posted:Wait, I'm confused, is it more like Michael Bay or Vladimir Nabokov? Pavlov posted:Yar I'm beginning to think that the fact that you don't think people are fapping to this game, and don't think the game encourages this, is the root of why you don't get our problems with it. But if there's author intent for people to fap to this, it's so insanely-minutely subtle that it's way more likely for fans to have inserted that intent themselves. Yeah, Dorothy's pretty badly mishandled. Even then there are plenty of clues in the writing that while sex is a topic, sex isn't an intent. #1: Character reactions to her are generally uncomfortable, polite acceptance or indifference. #2: In direct contrast to Streaming-Chan, she doesn't openly shill her services. Like, she advertises that she is a sex worker, but she doesn't say 'if you wanna do it with me, here's my rates' like Streaming-Chan does. #3: She remarks that her clientele are weird, with specific examples (Ingram's weirdness, the camo thing, etc.) These are things that indicate to me that the author want's me to be thinking about this as a topic, not fapping to it.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Like, she advertises that she is a sex worker, but she doesn't say 'if you wanna do it with me, here's my rates' Dorothy has already made this offer on multiple occasions quote:#3: She remarks that her clientele are weird, with specific examples (Ingram's weirdness, the camo thing, etc.) does she ever opine that it's weird how her clients want to gently caress children Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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Jul 29, 2016 01:42
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GimmickMan posted:I have trouble believing a game that describes itself as "about waifus" but also contains the line "anime was a mistake" can be unironically about waifus. This is day 4 and there's like 20 or so, I'm willing to wait and see. Maybe they're just not very good at this satire thing? Satire was one of the first casualties of 2016, the concept no longer has any meaning at all now... unless the meaning is to write/do/say something godawful and then claim it's satire when called on it. People do that a lot these days.
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Guys I have a new idea for a game I thought you'd like to hear about. It's about my gritty future world where the Zionists have come out of the shadows to head the New World Order. I'm not an antisemite though, we're just exploring the premise. Your character works as a janitor because he was kicked out of his government job after affirmative action made only brown people allowed to work there. I'm not racist though this is just examining an idea-space. The brown people who work there are all uniformly incompetent so your gameplay is mostly doing all their work for them without receiving any rewards. This is of course satire, but I'm not very good at satire so I'm going to pretty much leave that how it is. Instead of a soundtrack, I was thinking of having you listen to the underground remnants of this world's right wing radio, as they talk about the future resurgence of the White Race. Your character mostly just smiles and nods to this, but I don't want this game to be political so please don't take it that way. Mostly I want to focus on making Walker Texas Ranger references and jokes about Jerry Springer guests. I know my game seems to really appeal to people on Stormfront but I promise this is all just tongue-in-cheek. So what do you guys think?
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Jul 29, 2016 02:23
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Pavlov posted:So what do you guys think? I only care about memes and waifus
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Jul 29, 2016 02:27
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dmboogie posted:See, I don't think people are fapping to this game either? Like, there's literal porn on Steam they could be getting instead. how dare you insult my husbando Donovan D. Dawson, the hottest character in all of game history, whose portrait causes a four-hour climax in anyone who looks upon it GimmickMan posted:I have trouble believing a game that describes itself as "about waifus" but also contains the line "anime was a mistake" can be unironically about waifus. This is day 4 and there's like 20 or so, I'm willing to wait and see. Maybe they're just not very good at this satire thing? ...that's probably the most reasonable explanation I've heard, but that just gives more credence to my argument of "this game is a lovely VN because the 'novel' part is lovely". I can get the whole "it's chill overall" thing but I can't get over the awful quality line-by-line. Skippy Granola posted:Thanks for helping me not get tricked by reviews. Game Informer fuckin loved it. Like all games, it boils down to a matter of taste and opinion. I'm just of the opinion that most game reviewers are talking out of their rear end (in general, not just for this) and that this game is garbage. And Pavlov, it's not a New World Order, it's a "New Order of the Ages". C'mon guys. Latin ain't that hard in the first place. Just trust me on this one. 
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Jul 29, 2016 02:27
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shibbotech posted:...that's probably the most reasonable explanation I've heard, but that just gives more credence to my argument of "this game is a lovely VN because the 'novel' part is lovely". I can get the whole "it's chill overall" thing but I can't get over the awful quality line-by-line. The general atmosphere is what I like the most about this game, I think. See, I like slice-of-life and long, rambling conversations that don't really go anywhere. The dialogue is awkward when you stare at it for too long, but like the feel it's trying to get across. I think the characters are fun, the humor lands when it's not entirely based around dumb references, and there's some pretty heartfelt stuff later on. Like, there's a scene coming up soon that's basically what sold my soul to this game, and if the general consensus is still the same afterwards it's probably safe to say that we are looking for completely different things in our media and we'll never see eye to eye on this game. That's cool! Just, like, please don't call the people who like it perverted freaks, that's rude.
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Jul 29, 2016 02:35
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Pavlov posted:So what do you guys think? Not once did you mention women or any sort of female character. Thank you for not trying to shove some feminist agenda down our throats. 
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Jul 29, 2016 02:37
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shibbotech posted:And Pavlov, it's not a New World Order, it's a "New Order of the Ages". C'mon guys. Latin ain't that hard in the first place. Just trust me on this one.
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Jul 29, 2016 02:42
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Really Pants posted:Dorothy has already made this offer on multiple occasions And yes, she does complain about her clientele. Bonus: it's also a wider indictment of people who see her that way dmboogie posted:Like, there's a scene coming up soon that's basically what sold my soul to this game, and if the general consensus is still the same afterwards it's probably safe to say that we are looking for completely different things in our media and we'll never see eye to eye on this game. That's cool! We're probably thinking about the same event and my opinion mirrors yours on it. Art Von Delay hooked me in (it was a really good laugh) and further events cemented my like for this game, despite all of it's flaws (even Dorothy's mishandling.)
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Jul 29, 2016 02:52
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NGDBSS posted:I believe that that you're a Freemason IRL? Right in one. I was given the chance to join a fraternity during my freshman year at college, I chose the oldest. Worked out so far. Fun fact: some of my college friends legitimately call me "endbringer" because I was initiated on 12/21/12.
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Jul 29, 2016 03:08
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dmboogie posted:The general atmosphere is what I like the most about this game, I think. See, I like slice-of-life and long, rambling conversations that don't really go anywhere. The dialogue is awkward when you stare at it for too long, but like the feel it's trying to get across. I think the characters are fun, the humor lands when it's not entirely based around dumb references, and there's some pretty heartfelt stuff later on. I also have a bridge to sell you that's long, rambling, and doesn't really go anywhere. I think I know the scene, though. I hated the game more afterwards.
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EclecticTastes posted:Oh gently caress it just occurred to me why are the pedo-bots anatomically correct in the first place?! Pavlov posted:I know my game seems to really appeal to people on Stormfront but I promise this is all just tongue-in-cheek. So what do you guys think?
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God drat there is a lot of hate for this game in here. Quite frankly, I knew going into it what to expect and maybe that's why I am not so sorely disappointed as some of the others in here. The game is just a nice chill 6-7 hour story that was nice to play for 30 to 45 minutes every night while having an after dinner drink. And quite frankly kudos to the creators for all the BS they had to put up with to get the game out. Not only that, but continued support, development, special requests, etc from the fanbase quite frankly have put them in a special place on my developer list. Hope they keep making easy and laid-back games such as this one. Boss is BEST boss
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Lord Gorchnik posted:Boss is BEST boss Actually, let's dig the hell into this, because Dana's been subtly getting on my nerves all drat game. She's like a bunch of Chuck Norris facts had a kid with one of those "lol soooo random" characters from some lovely Disney channel sitcom. All she's done so far is go on a bunch of monkeycheese tangents and get her head stuck in a helmet she picked up off the floor and tried to wear because YOLO or whatever-the-gently caress. But also she's a total badass OC Do Not Steal because a few of the customers vaguely recall some stories about her because the adage goes "tell, don't show" right? If this were World of Darkness instead of cyberpunk, she'd be the one unironically sporting the trenchcoat-katana combo. Basically none of the cast is well-written and this game is a dumpster fire before we even get to the skeevy content.
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The way she gives you a bonus and a kind word at the end of each day is pretty endearing.
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dmboogie posted:The way she gives you a bonus and a kind word at the end of each day is pretty endearing. Cooking Mama does the same. Is Boss a Cooking Mama copy?!?!  I haven't realized she's got a robotic arm until this last chapter. But following the "katana-trenchcoat OC" pattern it would be this or a bionic eyepatch.
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When I first heard of this game, I read a review from some indie game website that took time to praise Dorothy as a "sex positive portrayal of sex workers." I guess the fact she is 13 slipped the reviewers notice. Edit: Also, she's a sex robot. She's programmed to like it. That makes it less "sex positive" and more "male gaze." Covok fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jul 29, 2016 |
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I'm pretty sure she's just a robot, she chooses to be a sex worker. Which has it's own issues. But she isn't programmed this way she grew to become this way if I understand how the Lilim mentally/emotionally evolve in universe.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I'm pretty sure she's just a robot, she chooses to be a sex worker. Which has it's own issues. But she isn't programmed this way she grew to become this way if I understand how the Lilim mentally/emotionally evolve in universe. This is correct, Dorothy brings it up in her first conversation, so it can be somewhat forgiven if people missed it because Dorothy is, well, Dorothy.
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