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This is what's giving me conniptions about buying a video card and 1440p monitor. The G-Sync tax seems way too much and I am really hesitant to pay it. But getting a 1070 with a Freesync monitor seems like a waste if adaptive sync technology is really worth it. But a RX480 would be severely underpowered for 1440p. But the G-Sync tax seems way too much...
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:01 |
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ColHannibal posted:Which one of you Jabroni's keeps out bidding me for a 980ti on eBay? It's almost like nobody wants to sell me one for $350. http://forums.redflagdeals.com/tons-stuff-sale-980ti-1070-1080-viii-hero-mechanical-keyboards-nvme-drive-2036373/ Check here
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:02 |
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I bought my friend a gigabyte 1070 (the two fan windforce model) for a build I'm helping him with, and he's twiddled his thumbs for two months on the build. We're just now getting down to brass tacks, and suddenly that GPU is not for sale anywhere reputable. The listing is totally gone off NewEgg, and only secondhand sellers have it on amazon. NCIX has it price gouged for $540. Should I be worried? Is there a reason this card got pulled in such a short time, was something wrong with it?
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:15 |
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:I bought my friend a gigabyte 1070 (the two fan windforce model) for a build I'm helping him with, and he's twiddled his thumbs for two months on the build. We're just now getting down to brass tacks, and suddenly that GPU is not for sale anywhere reputable. The listing is totally gone off NewEgg, and only secondhand sellers have it on amazon. NCIX has it price gouged for $540. People bought them, I would assume?
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:19 |
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Haquer posted:People bought them, I would assume? My bad, I should have been more clear: It's not a stock issue, the SKU has been pulled. If it were just out of stock, amazon and newegg would say so.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:22 |
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:My bad, I should have been more clear: It's not a stock issue, the SKU has been pulled. If it were just out of stock, amazon and newegg would say so. considering you cant buy it, you dont need to worry about what happens if you buy it knowing amazon it probably got its listing merged for being too similar to another its still on amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HHCA1IO/?tag=pcpapi-20 Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Fauxtool posted:considering you cant buy it, you dont need to worry about what happens if you buy it They list a much higher price than it should sell at. I doubt there is anything particularly wrong with the card, and it has a 3 year warranty. I'm betting gigabyte cut it to close to the margin and simply wasn't making enough money on the sku compared to the pricing competitors where charging. They probably just dropped the SKU as they already had upmarket SKU's to meet demand more profitably.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:37 |
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Fauxtool posted:considering you cant buy it, you dont need to worry about what happens if you buy it The concern was that I ALREADY bought it. EoRaptor posted:They list a much higher price than it should sell at. This makes total sense, I don't know why I panicked instead of considering that. Thank you!
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 03:42 |
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Taima posted:In any case this is pretty much a moot point because the man claims that he will get 3 years of ultra gameplay at 1080p with a 480 which is basically ludicrous. High settings? At 30fps? Keep in mind I have like no expectations for frames here. I went from a 460 to 660 in 2013 because Bioshock Infinite couldn't play at Ultra without giant texture blurs where the card ran out of memory. That happened before frames ever got so low that I'd have had enough. I'm a consoles-first guy, though I'm not buying these refreshes and will wait for a proper new gen instead. This is why I'm happy bottlenecking myself at 1080p and consider any FPS over 30 to be gravy.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 04:36 |
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Craptacular! posted:High settings? At 30fps? I wish i was blessed with your low expectations, I would save so much money
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 04:39 |
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Fauxtool posted:I wish i was blessed with your low expectations, I would save so much money Try not having money to spend. Works for me! I dunno. I just know I'm at the point now where the NVidia utility that chooses settings for you is choosing medium-high stuff for GTA so it's time to upgrade. Also I haven't played many PC games that aren't Dota 2 and Overwatch since 2013, so it was like for years my computer was fine and then one day the Doom beta came by and it's minimum specs knocked my socks off. I only have a 3700K and I want a card that will run ultra stuff now and in 2018 when I buy new PC hardware I can stuff this in there. 470 8GB seems fine. The fact that the framerates will be iffy will, apparently, be smoothed out somewhat by *sync, which is fine since I need a second monitor to do streaming any justice. The reality is that "run great detail setting for three years" doesn't meet your guys standards for framerates etc, but I have a low budget because I don't have luxury income. I have to have lower standards since I want 2-3 years of playability for no more than $250. I still have a $489 receipt from the now extinct MonarchComputer in 2004, for a 6800GT I bought for Doom 3 (a game I hated.) I have been where you are before, but I had parents buying me stuff then, and today I have parents refusing to buy stuff as they try to force me to get a job. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Craptacular! posted:High settings? At 30fps? Games are still playable on medium-high and freesync will make up for the dips in FPS. There isnt a huge difference between ultra and high anyway. I have a 390x and a XR341ck. Its a struggle to stay at 75 fps at 1440 right now. A 470 8gb with a 1080 144hz free sync costs less than my monitor which I paid $550. Green Gloves fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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teagone posted:Your doubt is folly How does it play with updated drivers?
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 05:55 |
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my gigabyte g1 gaming 980ti just crapped itself. It cant run for more than a minute before getting a solid green or grey screen requiring a hard reboot. If I let it sit for 20 min it will run for 2 minutes. A hour before this started to happen it was crashing to desktop with a display driver failure every game launch. I dont see any temp spikes before the crash and the heatsink is pretty dust free. That sounds like a GPU issue right? Its still well under warranty so im not worried about a RMA. Are 980ti's still in production or is there a chance I might get a 1070 back? Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Fauxtool posted:my gigabyte g1 gaming 980ti just crapped itself. It cant run for more than a minute before getting a solid green or grey screen requiring a hard reboot. If I let it sit for 20 min it will run for 2 minutes. A hour before this started to happen it was crashing to desktop with a display driver failure every game launch. I dont see any temp spikes before the crash and the heatsink is pretty dust free. That sounds like a GPU issue right? No? but they may still have some in the backroom for you.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 06:48 |
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Hairworks is a scorched earth tactic, where nVidia nukes everyone's performance in order to make AMD look bad.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 07:02 |
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jm20 posted:1070/1080 are in stock because we're all poors, it's the 1060/470/480 in whatever specific flavour that is hard to find. Availability for the 1070 and 1080 was actually really poor up until at least mid-July, depending on where you live. I assume it'll be the same story for the 480 and 1060, give it another month or so.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 07:04 |
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PerrineClostermann posted:Hairworks is a scorched earth tactic, where nVidia nukes everyone's performance in order to make AMD look bad. I thought that was tessellation in general. Remember the concrete barriers with the FFXIV 1.0 -levels of tessellation?
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 07:18 |
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Kazinsal posted:I'm one of the few people who cares more about high refresh rate than resolution, so I'm going to ride 1080p144 until 1440p144 IPS panels are cheap. Yes! Temporal resolution. Well 2017 will bring us 3440x1440 panels up to 200 Hz. So while the prices probably won't suit you, you can at least start saving or keep tabs on an actual product. We'll also get 3840x2160 panels capable of 144 Hz and a selection of 1920x1080 240 Hz panels.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 10:42 |
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I've heard people can get headaches from refresh rates around 200hz I wonder if there's any truth to that.
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Craptacular! posted:I only have a 3700K and I want a card that will run ultra stuff now and in 2018 when I buy new PC hardware I can stuff this in there. 470 8GB seems fine. The fact that the framerates will be iffy will, apparently, be smoothed out somewhat by *sync, which is fine since I need a second monitor to do streaming any justice. Even now, in 2016, the 480 is pulling under 40fps on the new Deus Ex, with dips to 30 (on ultra). The next game of it's type might push those lower, and at that point you'll want to compromise. Most freesync monitors have a minimum FPS of ~40, so it won't help you any for dips into the 30s. LFC (low framerate compensation) might help keep tearing down, but subjectively it doesn't give anything like the same smoothness. e: tl;dr your plan is a good one but 'ultra for 3 years' isn't on the cards
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 12:18 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This is what's giving me conniptions about buying a video card and 1440p monitor. The G-Sync tax seems way too much and I am really hesitant to pay it. But getting a 1070 with a Freesync monitor seems like a waste if adaptive sync technology is really worth it. But a RX480 would be severely underpowered for 1440p. But the G-Sync tax seems way too much... The XB271HU and a 1070 has made a huge difference for me. Singlelplayer or multi, doesn't matter, everything plays and looks better. My only regret is not taking it a step further with the ultra wide and the 1080 gtx.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 13:13 |
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If I game at 1080p, and don't give a poo poo about playing on ultra, will I notice a difference between the 3GB and 6GB variations of the 1060? It's my HTPC/Steambox and I don't play games on it that don't support controllers. I currently have a 950 in there which runs Rocket League fine but it chokes on Dark Souls 3 a lot.
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LmaoTheKid posted:If I game at 1080p, and don't give a poo poo about playing on ultra, will I notice a difference between the 3GB and 6GB variations of the 1060? Dark Souls 3 won't stress either. 6Gb might offer better performance in games that need >3Gb of VRAM to shine. You can also realistically just keep texture detail one notch lower on those games for the same result.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 17:05 |
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Khablam posted:Dark Souls 3 won't stress either. 6Gb might offer better performance in games that need >3Gb of VRAM to shine. You can also realistically just keep texture detail one notch lower on those games for the same result. Cool. Looks like the small 3gb EVGA is my upgrade, thanks!
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 17:46 |
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LmaoTheKid posted:If I game at 1080p, and don't give a poo poo about playing on ultra, will I notice a difference between the 3GB and 6GB variations of the 1060? As long as you keep textures and AA to normal levels no.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 17:49 |
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I'm sure most people here already don't use GeForce Experience game setting recommendations, but I always found it pretty useful when I had a mid range system, or at least good enough. Now that I have a better rig with a 1070 though, the recommendations are downright stupid and I have to fiddle with settings a whole lot more. It basically wants every game to do DSR for AA but then recommends that I crank a bunch of the eye candy settings down. Am I crazy, or would most people prefer native res, modest aa, and all the eye candy stuff maxed (or as much as their card will allow?)
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 18:28 |
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Always try to play at native res IMO. More resolution is *always* better than the alternative, but DSR isn't more resolution, it's literally just supersampling AA that usually comes at an even bigger performance hit.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 18:35 |
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I'd consider it over ultra in some games where ultra means gently caress optimization. Otherwise agree 100%
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 18:36 |
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Truga posted:Always try to play at native res IMO. More resolution is *always* better than the alternative, but DSR isn't more resolution, it's literally just supersampling AA that usually comes at an even bigger performance hit. A performance hit versus what?
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 18:38 |
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Even dumb high settings of any other AA method. I did word that incorrectly, sorry.
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Okay good, that's what I thought. I mean, sure, I'd love to play ROTTR with zero graphical bells and whistles but three times my native res!
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DSR prevents you from playing in wi sowed borderless, so for me it's a thing for a real niche subset of people. As I like to pop into a browser or OBS occasionally, I will never go for it. GeForce Experience is usually a good guideline but it does try to push you into DSR on older games.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 22:39 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:It's almost time to Step Up my 980 Ti from that sale Newegg had for $400 a couple months ago. EVGA still has hosed-up pricing for the 1070 (cheapest card is $430, only $20 cheaper than the FE) so I'm thinking seriously about getting the 1080 ACX for $620 instead. I paid $400 for the card, so I think it'll be $220 plus shipping both ways. FWIW, I initiated a step up for the fire sale 980ti towards the middle of June and just got an email about 15 minutes ago saying I could either step up to the 6181 or hold out for the SC 6183 I originally requested if I want to wait. Even if you start the process now, it might be a while before you can actually step up to a 1080.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 22:41 |
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Craptacular! posted:DSR prevents you from playing in wi sowed borderless, so for me it's a thing for a real niche subset of people. As I like to pop into a browser or OBS occasionally, I will never go for it. Actually it doesn't. Once you turn on the DSR you can set your Windows Desktop res to one of the new res options and continue playing in a window, just good luck reading anything on that screen otherwise. On the other hand, DSR does disable custom Res/Refresh settings so I cant do DSR + 90Hz on my Korean 1440P with it.
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# ? Aug 26, 2016 23:14 |
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I was able to walk into my local best buy and pickup a 1070. They had plenty of 1080, 480 and 470 gpus too. I thought there was a shortage or is my area just lucky?
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Fauxtool posted:I was able to walk into my local best buy and pickup a 1070. They had plenty of 1080, 480 and 470 gpus too. I thought there was a shortage or is my area just lucky? Best Buy's pricing tends to be hosed, but I think in general people look for these more online than brick and mortar.
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they were all at pretty standard pricing, like 40 above msrp I can see why people would avoid does anyone actually sell a 1070 at msrp? Apparently I got a founders edition and didnt even know so i did pay msrp Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Anybody have any experience with the EVGA GTX 1060 SC? It's selling for about $60 (CAD) cheaper than an MSI Gaming X, but someone on SPCR got one and says the fan's bearing starts to "howl" at speeds around 1100 RPM, and some people on EVGA's forums can hear it closer to 1000 RPM. The only reviews I've found with temperatures have it around 75*C at load and "quiet" at 38 dB on the newer "0dB" BIOS, with the previous BIOS having the load noise around 5 dB louder at ~1500 RPM. If you tried to overclock it and wanted to keep temperatures low so it doesn't throttle significantly, it sounds like it might make the fan noise annoying. I have overly sensitive hearing and I guess I'm just trying to decide if extra quiet is worth an extra $60.
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Twerk from Home posted:Best Buy's pricing tends to be hosed, but I think in general people look for these more online than brick and mortar. While this is true, can't you walk into a BB with an ad at an online store (or other B&M store) that has it cheaper without rebates or anything, and just match it? Pretty sure they match even most official online stores (Amazon themselves, Newegg, etc) since Fry and WalMart started doing that years ago.
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