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Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Oh I thought he would die.

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Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Who cares targeted vigs are okay right?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I feel so bad for little mac. what did they do to deserve this

Max
Nov 30, 2002

I'm not reading all those pages of arguing.

Why do people want to lunch TM? As a bard, I saw all the possible things he could have used, and he chose the most town songs two days in a row now.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop
Little Mac seemed pretty mad about playing the game.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Kashuno posted:

Who cares targeted vigs are okay right?

Nobody is saying that.

You ever going to try actually engaging with my points or just continue to misrepresent them?

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Asiina posted:

Nobody is saying that.

You ever going to try actually engaging with my points or just continue to misrepresent them?

I've engaged with almost every single point brought against me.

where is your example of me using night action mafia to solve the game for me?

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Oh I forgot Lumpen / Satan was in this game. And he's town.

Please stop randomly vigging people.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Lumpen posted:

Little Mac seemed pretty mad about playing the game.

He was mad about being vigged for no reason so :thumbsup:

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Bif, are you totally certain it said "Town" and not "Giant Fuckhead"

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Max posted:

Oh I forgot Lumpen / Satan was in this game. And he's town.

Please stop randomly vigging people.

We have to vig, I just think we should y'know coordinate it.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Asiina posted:

He was mad about being vigged for no reason so :thumbsup:

Thank you for unblocking me Asiina :glomp:

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Asiina posted:

He was mad about being vigged for no reason so :thumbsup:

He was also super mad yesterday. Main reason I went for him.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Why do you have to?

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Raeg posted:

We have to vig, I just think we should y'know coordinate it.

the fira was not a berserker vig.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Kashuno posted:

I've engaged with almost every single point brought against me.

where is your example of me using night action mafia to solve the game for me?

I'm phone posting so I can't find the post, but I already said it's you relying on roles as required to be used in order to play the game and that if you were VT you would replace out.

As if there's no point in playing if you're not using a power role.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop
Why are people professing to think Little Mac is Town though anyway?

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Asiina posted:

I'm phone posting so I can't find the post, but I already said it's you relying on roles as required to be used in order to play the game and that if you were VT you would replace out.

As if there's no point in playing if you're not using a power role.

I said if I was assigned vanilla town in a role madness game, I would quit.

Because that'd be mean and lovely of the mod.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Lumpen posted:

Why are people professing to think Little Mac is Town though anyway?

Nobody actually knows.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Lumpen posted:

Why are people professing to think Little Mac is Town though anyway?

It's more "wow people are repeatedly targeting LM with no actual reasoning"

Added Space
Jul 13, 2012

Free Markets
Free People

Curse you Hayard-Gunnes!

Lumpen posted:

Why are people professing to think Little Mac is Town though anyway?

People are killing him for weak reasons.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
why do you think Little Mac isn't town?

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Max posted:

Why do you have to?

It's the role for Berseker. Vig or die basically.

Didn't realise FIRA was different, sorry.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
little mac has the cutest avatar so think about that

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Added Space posted:

People are killing him for weak reasons.

Honestly that's either one hell of a brazen scum team or it's a null tell.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Raeg posted:

It's the role for Berseker. Vig or die basically.

Didn't realise FIRA was different, sorry.

OK but the vig is just being thrown around. If you have to vig, throw it at someone like Tpink.

Added Space
Jul 13, 2012

Free Markets
Free People

Curse you Hayard-Gunnes!

Raeg posted:

Honestly that's either one hell of a brazen scum team or it's a null tell.

We're talking Mafia goons here. Odds of one or two of them being impatient idiots are pretty good.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Raeg posted:

Honestly that's either one hell of a brazen scum team or it's a null tell.

not really because

Max posted:

OK but the vig is just being thrown around. If you have to vig, throw it at someone like Tpink.

This. We have people who are forced to use their vig blatantly ignoring an effectively confirmed third party and instead risking it on another player with no information on them yet.

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop

Max posted:

OK but the vig is just being thrown around. If you have to vig, throw it at someone like Tpink.

Why? Tpink is a confirmed survivor now, right? That's not Scumhunting.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
how is throwing a vig around, scumming?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
oops

Tired Moritz posted:

how is throwing a vig around, scumhunting?

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Kashuno posted:

not really because


This. We have people who are forced to use their vig blatantly ignoring an effectively confirmed third party and instead risking it on another player with no information on them yet.

Why would I ever target the guy I already have information about.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

I just read through like 6 drat pages right after I woke up, didn't someone say they had some ability that was going off on Kash tonight and he was already down to one job?

He's going to keep using his ability if he stays in the game.

He could be bold scum, or selfish town, either way I want him gone.

Unless:

Added Space posted:

Assuming 8 scum remaining -

Killing 25% of players kills 2 scum and 5 town. That brings down from 8-12+ kills to win to 6-9+. Either way scum have 50% more work to do than town.

One random kill favors Mafia. Several random kills at the same time is mathematically a neutral action.


It seems like everyone is saying we should just do this and it's no big deal, and Kash should totally just keep on keeping on. IMHO, we kill Kash, or me and Added Space should also use our powers since it is supposedly no big deal.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Max posted:

Bif, are you totally certain it said "Town" and not "Giant Fuckhead"

Giant fuckheads are often town

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

tpink posted:

I'm still on p22 catching up but wanted to respond. I did not - Infi told me about that in our mason chat before there was even any heat on him, so I didn't have any reason to disbelieve him.

That is super interesting and confirms for me that Inf was probably lying. The only chance I thought he might be telling the truth is if it was some non job power that you two shared. But if he just made it up, I can see him saying it in mason chat too to up his cred. We know he didn't get it from his first listed job.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Lumpen posted:

Why? Tpink is a confirmed survivor now, right? That's not Scumhunting.

randomly vigging people is not scumhunting at all.

Yorkshire Tea posted:

Why would I ever target the guy I already have information about.

3rd party is not town, why would you not use your free ability to remove them if you're town rather than risking it?

King Burgundy posted:

IMHO, we kill Kash, or me and Added Space should also use our powers since it is supposedly no big deal.

:killing:

Lumpen
Apr 2, 2004

I'd been happy, and I was happy still. For all to be accomplished,
for me to feel less lonely,
all that remained to hope
was that on the day of my execution
there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should
greet me with howls of execration.
Plaster Town Cop
Eh, I thought Little Mac was down to his last job, and he claimed that all his powers were gone/useless now, and I was like "methinks he doth protesteth too much" and that seemed pretty Scummy or whatever, so I was like oh hey I got this dayvig to use, let's flip a guy! But he didn't die, he just lost the power he said was totally useless, so no harm done.

Sorry if that chaps your patoot Max.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Kashuno posted:

not really because


This. We have people who are forced to use their vig blatantly ignoring an effectively confirmed third party and instead risking it on another player with no information on them yet.

This is very true. Thinking on it.

Beserk: tpink

vote: Yorkshire Tea

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
:ssh: it's ##berserk and ##vote

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Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Kashuno posted:

3rd party is not town, why would you not use your free ability to remove them if you're town rather than risking it?

Because even if I killed town I'd gain information. To me that's more valuable than being safe.

I don't know why you're so loving obsessed with killing 3P because you're terrified we'll hit town with our vigs yet at the same time advocate for vote lynches being a good idea.

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