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Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
Tpink should be left alive today so that the Town zerks we have left can murder him tomorrow and we should take note of who doesnt

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King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Ok back. I was so into this that I had to hurry and take a shower and take my kid to TKD in a whirlwind. I said I wasn't going to post much this game but I always get sucked eventually. Have a few before I have to drive back home.

Kashuno posted:

KB you're awesome and one of my fave mafia players this ownsownsowns

:glomp:

Thanks! FWIW I had a massive smile on my face when I rushed away from the computer. That was fun, so thanks for inspiring me.

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


SLASHER HAWKE posted:

lmao chaoslord why you visit me lol

To protect you, the confirmed town. Notice that I took two shots when everyone else only took one :patriot:

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

##vote KB

Fun move, feels like something outta my playbook. If this is genuinely in your character as well, I'm sorry for dumping on your new direction and will look forward to enjoying more capricious KB antics in the future

Hahaha. Most mafia folks already think I'm too arrogant/cocky, I'm not sure why you think this is a stretch.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
Did you :killing: KB?

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Kashuno posted:

Tpink should be left alive today so that the Town zerks we have left can murder him tomorrow and we should take note of who doesnt

Agree

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Also flavor wise the non tsunami damage I took was a fist of stone

Also also too much evil mist so I think I'll be down to one job tomorrow :rip:

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Mithross posted:

By the time I got through 400 odd posts there were almost another 200. But you did, in fact, amaze me. This game has turned into the glorious insanity I had hoped for.

I don't like the analogy KB is using to call Bif scum. Revealing yourself as a starting doctor in a different style game is not the same as using abilities that damage scum and town both. People should react differently to them. Also, I can absolutely see town Kash spamming his necro abilities to cause a train wreck.

Note I am not calling Kash's actions pro town. They are not. I am just saying that Kash could very easily be town and still play like this.

fake edit: KB threatening to double down isn't pro town either.

Keep in mind I myself called them out as different but explained that it was a tone feeling thing based on her play. The couple responses seem to have ignored that.

On my own play the mafia players in this game are telling me that Kash's action wasn't anti town. I'm just joining the crowd. Caving to peer pressure. ;)

Honestly I should have probably given it more time for the saner players to agree with me but I got carried away.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
It sure isn't pro Town but drat it's fun!!

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Kashuno posted:

It sure isn't pro Town but drat it's fun!!

No, no fun is allowed. We must be robots that only win at mafia.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

He also left out the bit where the character he claimed was like "best white mage in the universe" and then he went buying some heavy armor

Armor that seemed specifically designed for my character. It was mail. Which is medium not heavy armor. And you were wrong. Right? :)

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Yorkshire Tea posted:

No, no fun is allowed. We must be robots that only win at mafia.

I like how you two are actually trying to paint asking town playing to a town wincon as bad and unreasonable.

This is the hill you are choosing to die on.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


King Burgundy posted:

Hahaha. Most mafia folks already think I'm too arrogant/cocky, I'm not sure why you think this is a stretch.

It's not just being arrogant or cocky, it's the specific flavor of self-indulgent threats, get off my turf

Mithross
Apr 27, 2011

Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

King Burgundy posted:

Keep in mind I myself called them out as different but explained that it was a tone feeling thing based on her play. The couple responses seem to have ignored that.

On my own play the mafia players in this game are telling me that Kash's action wasn't anti town. I'm just joining the crowd. Caving to peer pressure. ;)

Honestly I should have probably given it more time for the saner players to agree with me but I got carried away.

You did mention they weren't the same, but you still drew the comparison. Analogy was the wrong word, I admit that. I would still argue that the situation is different enough that it doesn't work. Particularly when this game it's Kash doing anti-town things to amuse himself. You and Kash are very different posters. If you were the one declaring that you were going to "use your ability just because I have it, why wouldn't you" it would be a very different conversation. I can see town kash acting this way (and yes, probably needing to be stopped). I would be hard pressed to build a narrative where you would do so.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

Man KB sure clammed up all a sudden, I was expecting slapfight fireworks

Wow. This is so bad. Scumfauxnen.

Mithross
Apr 27, 2011

Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

King Burgundy posted:

Wow. This is so bad. Scumfauxnen.

Now that I agree was bad of Bif.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Asiina posted:

I like how you two are actually trying to paint asking town playing to a town wincon as bad and unreasonable.

This is the hill you are choosing to die on.

What no? I'm just calling you boring.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Quidthulhu posted:

I think tpink is scum here. No reasonable person who knows that their counterpart is 3p aligned rolls in to confirm a claim as 100% true when it was in the word rather 3p alone. Furthermore:


Nothing in this flip says they share an alignment. Cpig is self-aligned. Not a survivor, not a survivor-mason, he is self aligned and also a mason. We are taking on their word that they share an alignment, and again, we've been show both have lied in thread.

Go on play to scumhunt, golden rule of mafia.

##vote Tpink

I'll laugh real hard if Infs lie pegged actual scum.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Kashuno posted:

Did you :killing: KB?

:awesomelon:

I DID! Pig must be away right now.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


King Burgundy posted:

Armor that seemed specifically designed for my character. It was mail. Which is medium not heavy armor. And you were wrong. Right? :)

Heavy enough to block you from using any spell except CURE though, wasn't it? Which apparently is all you had anyway but in game the character you claimed for no reason can use literally all white magic and even Ultima and poo poo so forgive me for thinking it was suss as all hell

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Mithross posted:

Now that I agree was bad of Bif.

He is literally back and posting already, right now

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

It's not just being arrogant or cocky, it's the specific flavor of self-indulgent threats, get off my turf

It's probably just an opportunity thing. I can't think of another time I've been in this situation in a mafia game.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Mithross posted:

You did mention they weren't the same, but you still drew the comparison. Analogy was the wrong word, I admit that. I would still argue that the situation is different enough that it doesn't work. Particularly when this game it's Kash doing anti-town things to amuse himself. You and Kash are very different posters. If you were the one declaring that you were going to "use your ability just because I have it, why wouldn't you" it would be a very different conversation. I can see town kash acting this way (and yes, probably needing to be stopped). I would be hard pressed to build a narrative where you would do so.

This is somewhat fair and was also fair for poque to say but I think people defending anti town play because it is befitting that players personality is pretty bad in and of itself. And if it takes me adopting that personality to make people own their bad opinions then so be it.

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

Heavy enough to block you from using any spell except CURE though, wasn't it? Which apparently is all you had anyway but in game the character you claimed for no reason can use literally all white magic and even Ultima and poo poo so forgive me for thinking it was suss as all hell

This is an odd way to say you were wrong. ;) I forgive you.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


King Burgundy posted:

This is somewhat fair and was also fair for poque to say but I think people defending anti town play because it is befitting that players personality is pretty bad in and of itself. And if it takes me adopting that personality to make people own their bad opinions then so be it.

So you are now actually participating in said play you believe to be anti-town, ostensibly because you allowed these people you are still disagreeing with to talk you into it, but framing it as "adopting that personality to make people own their bad opinions"

This is such tortured justification

Just admit you wanna have some fun too why don't you

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990

chaoslord posted:

To protect you, the confirmed town. Notice that I took two shots when everyone else only took one :patriot:

in my first game post I claimed pgo no visit! :shittydog:

SLASHER HAWKE posted:

HEu FOLKS

i'm pog don't visit

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990
thnuderdome big and kb imo

Murmur Twin
Feb 11, 2003

An ever-honest pacifist with no mind for tricks.
OK yikes I'm all chronologically caught up, cases coming shortly but in the meantime

tpink posted:

Berserked by someone who can't even spell it, what a world. :cripes:

An argument could be made that he can't spell "rage" either :j:

Poque posted:

like this is the reason casinos exist

You forgot "casinos are a wonderful source of entertainment and tipping blackjack dealers is good luck".

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


SLASHER HAWKE posted:

thnuderdome big and kb imo

Sadly I have no vengeance bombs to rig the dome with :smith:

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

So you are now actually participating in said play you believe to be anti-town, ostensibly because you allowed these people you are still disagreeing with to talk you into it, but framing it as "adopting that personality to make people own their bad opinions"

This is such tortured justification

Just admit you wanna have some fun too why don't you

I thought I already did that. On phone so can't go back to look. If we aren't going to promote good play in this game then I will also play badly. I can have a lot of fun while doing it and also after the game when I reinforce it with a bunch of I told you so when we lose. :)

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


King Burgundy posted:

I thought I already did that. On phone so can't go back to look. If we aren't going to promote good play in this game then I will also play badly. I can have a lot of fun while doing it and also after the game when I reinforce it with a bunch of I told you so when we lose. :)

Btw is there anyone else you want to name as specifically scummy in their objection to you? Part of the reason I was moved to actually vote about it is it seemed all too convenient for you to laser focus on me.

Even after the bard business, sheesh

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990
YT is such a lazy godfamn vote today

Mithross
Apr 27, 2011

Intelligent and bright, they explored a world that was new and strange to them. They liked it, they thought - a whole world just for them! They were dimly aware that a God had created them, was watching them; they called out to him, thanking him in a chittering language, before running off.

Bifauxnen posted:

He is literally back and posting already, right now

He was gone for ~40 minutes and gave a reason. It may well make it easy to lie to me, but if someone gives a real sounding real life reason for why they didn't post I believe them. I might still want them out of the game if it's an ongoing thing. But I feel like I would want to be believed if I had to leave for some real life concern, so I extend others the same courtesy.

I missed the last line of his "I'm leaving" post where he said he'd actually fired the necro power. I thought you were inflating his threat into "I'm firing my power and walking away", and missed where he actually said that, which was part of why I was so quick to agree with KB there. But I still accept that he walked away and don't find that part of his actions scummy.

Especially since, as you said, he's already back, posting, and talking about it. If he was going to fake walk away it would certainly have been longer, to let other stuff happen.


King Burgundy posted:

This is somewhat fair and was also fair for poque to say but I think people defending anti town play because it is befitting that players personality is pretty bad in and of itself. And if it takes me adopting that personality to make people own their bad opinions then so be it.

Yea, I don't think it should be defended ("Kash should use it, because that's just Kash"), I just don't see it as indicating his alignment. My actual concern with voting Kash out today is he's down two (or three?) jobs, and as such is very close to death, he has already cast doom (and the remaining dark arts are not nearly so threatening), and his play so far has been such that we would not get a lot of information from his flip. He's been the center of a large argument, true, but the nature of the argument wouldn't give us much in the way of alignment reads. I would rather vote out someone who we think is actually scum, and let the horde of berserkers who have to dayvig anyway target someone who is playing anti-town but who's alignment is up in the air.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


I mean here you are ranting about all this and doing the "hostage" act while I am literally performing the towniest of town actions, it's a bit ironic

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990

Bifauxnen posted:

I mean here you are ranting about all this and doing the "hostage" act while I am literally performing the towniest of town actions, it's a bit ironic

methinks the bishie doth protest tpo much

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bifauxnen posted:

Btw is there anyone else you want to name as specifically scummy in their objection to you? Part of the reason I was moved to actually vote about it is it seemed all too convenient for you to laser focus on me.

Even after the bard business, sheesh

I was discouraged at the lack of comments from people but you were the one that stuck out to me since I said it as a response to one of your posts. I thought one reason for that would be scum who didn't want to weigh in on it. And your attitude/opinions didn't fit with my expectations from a town bifaux.

Not twigged on anyone else for this specifically at the moment.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


SLASHER HAWKE posted:

methinks the bishie doth protest tpo much

You've been so weirdly on my case from the start of D1, it's really freaking me out

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


King Burgundy posted:

I was discouraged at the lack of comments from people but you were the one that stuck out to me since I said it as a response to one of your posts. I thought one reason for that would be scum who didn't want to weigh in on it. And your attitude/opinions didn't fit with my expectations from a town bifaux.

Not twigged on anyone else for this specifically at the moment.

I had literally already weighed in on it

Quidthulhu
Dec 17, 2003

Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Bifauxnen posted:

I mean here you are ranting about all this and doing the "hostage" act while I am literally performing the towniest of town actions, it's a bit ironic

You could be scum activating the cos, getting a random result, and lying about it. This does not make you town when roles are randomized.

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Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Quidthulhu posted:

You could be scum activating the cos, getting a random result, and lying about it. This does not make you town when roles are randomized.

I know, I also made sure to remind people of this because I do like to be thorough

Just saying it's funny for KB to be picking a fight with me over his "anti-town behaviour" argument when I am literally singing the daycop song today and this performing a very town action

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