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I guess DC wanted some of that hate that Deadpool is getting over Domino.
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Rhyno posted:I guess DC wanted some of that hate that Deadpool is getting over Domino. At least Liefeld thinks her casting was awesome. 
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Aug 24, 2017 01:33
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Koalas March posted:https://twitter.com/TVLine/status/900492911250374656 I have no idea who that is, but I can't wait to see her as Starfire!
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Aug 24, 2017 01:42
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ToastyPotato posted:At least Liefeld thinks her casting was awesome. The casting of both is awesome.
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Aug 24, 2017 01:47
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It'll be weird (DDS3/Defenders)seeing what they take from born again. If matt's already in a church bed, isn't that skipping all the lovely stuff that happens to him?
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Aug 24, 2017 02:33
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It'll be hilarious when hooker-Karen is the only thing they actually takes from the comics.
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Aug 24, 2017 02:40
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notthegoatseguy posted:I think Fisk and Murdock start out similar but I think Fisk gets swallowed in by his demons the further we get into season 1. I'd say by the time we see him in season 2, he's pretty drat close to just being pure evil and that he'd burn New York to the ground if it benefited him. Another interesting parallel goes back to the paternal relationship. Matt and his father have a close and loving relationship where they give their all to take care of each other, but Matt ultimately betrays his father's hope that he rise above violence. Jack Murdock wished more than anything that Matt get an education and escape from the urban jungle, so every time Daredevil dons his mask and punches a bad guy in the face, that's a complete betrayal of his father's ideals that Matt is painfully aware of. On the other hand, young Wilson Fisk was in constant conflict with his father. He never matched the aggressive spirit that his father expected of him. When he is finally driven to kill his father, it awakens something within him that he strives to bury. As an adult, he makes every effort to distance himself from the thuggishness of his father, but still he is only a moment away from smashing a mug's skull into paste with a car door. Matt Murdock was driven by the murder of his father to abandon his father's ideals. Wilson Fisk was driven by his murder of his father to embrace his father's ideals.
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Aug 24, 2017 03:43
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zoux posted:Whoa Daredevil Season 3 is adapting Born Again aka the one where Kingpin gaslights Matt into insanity. Also the one where Karen Page becomes a heroin-addicted prostitute, but they'll probably leave that out. Didn't D’Onofrio say he didn't have a lot of interest doing more Kingpin? Or was that likely a negotiating tactic? EDIT: Nope. NVM, I got it confused with him saying no Kingpin in Punisher. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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Aug 24, 2017 03:54
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I didn't know they were making a live action Teen Titans show. I look forward to people comparing it to the early 2000's animated series.
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Aug 24, 2017 05:01
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Rhyno posted:I guess DC wanted some of that hate that Deadpool is getting over Domino. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be surprised about nerds getting upset and racist over anything, but I don't remember any outcry when Zoe Saldana was cast as Gamora.
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Gaunab posted:I didn't know they were making a live action Teen Titans show. I look forward to people comparing it to the early 2000's animated series. It probably won't be a funny show, so probably less hostility than Teen Titans Go! or (for a while) Brave and the Bold got. What's the deal with people getting all bent out of a shape with comedic reboots of "serious" properties?
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Aug 24, 2017 10:51
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Wheat Loaf posted:It probably won't be a funny show, so probably less hostility than Teen Titans Go! or (for a while) Brave and the Bold got. Nerds hate fun. More precisely, some nerds think comic books will become a more respectable art form if they're "mature" and they see fun and funny stuff as undermining that and reinforcing the whole "comics are for children" thing.
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Aug 24, 2017 17:03
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These also tend to be the people who lose their poo poo if a female character is redesigned to be less overly sexualized.
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ToastyPotato posted:These also tend to be the people who lose their poo poo if a female character is redesigned to be less overly sexualized. "but you see, her costume basically being a shoelace and two postage stamps added to her depth" 
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Rhyno posted:"but you see, her costume basically being a shoelace and two postage stamps added to her depth" "She uses her sexuality as a weapon!"
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Aug 24, 2017 20:09
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Ah it's my old nemesis, cleavage.
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Aug 24, 2017 21:45
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ToastyPotato posted:"She uses her sexuality as a weapon!" The only character I accept that argument for is Emma Frost.
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Aug 24, 2017 21:51
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twistedmentat posted:The only character I accept that argument for is Emma Frost. Why though? She is an omega level telepath. Why does she need to use her titties as a weapon?
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Aug 24, 2017 21:55
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Nobody said needs to.
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ToastyPotato posted:Why though? She is an omega level telepath. Why does she need to use her titties as a weapon? I'm really trying to articulate my argument but every way I phrase it makes it sound like ToastyPotato posted:"She uses her sexuality as a weapon!" Basically, Emma Frost is someone that image is very important to, and she seeks to project an specific image and she knows she's dressing a specific way to achieve that. It's self aware, plus she is shown when not White Queening it up wearing more normal clothes. Even her psi projections are fully dressed. Though artists tend to take this to the extreme.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:24
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I mean that basically boils down to a bunch of dudes writing a female character to have an excuse to be sexualized and under-dressed despite her being one of the more powerful characters on the planet.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:32
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Yeah but they did it like 40 years ago so it's part of the history now.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:37
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah but they did it like 40 years ago so it's part of the history now. I get that, and I don't even hold any grudge with that, but characters can change. So it seems silly to hold on to that as some key component of the character.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:52
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I don't have any problem with them dropping that aspect of the character. I'm always happy when women get pants.
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The problem with the "tactical sexy outfit to distract men" trope is that it hinges on the sexist idea that men en masse are so horny and stupid that they would be distracted by flashes of flesh in a live-or-death combat situation. It also hinges on the weird notion that the worst and most evil men you're liable to face out there aren't also the ones who are most likely to hit women with no qualms, however they're dressed.
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Aug 25, 2017 01:28
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...Did you just not all men comic book titty logic? Oh no we've gone meta. I'm seeing plaid.
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Aug 25, 2017 02:20
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Maybe bikini armor...is bad?
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Aug 25, 2017 03:29
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Yea i'm in no way defending it, i'm just saying it fits the character as its been presented. I do admit, her least revealing costumes are my favorites, the white one from I think Astonishing and Bendis's black one. Though I am glad that Marvel got over using Gay Coded Villains.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea i'm in no way defending it, i'm just saying it fits the character as its been presented. I do admit, her least revealing costumes are my favorites, the white one from I think Astonishing and Bendis's black one. If you're talking about Emma Frost, she premiered in Claremont's X-Men which had twice as many gay coded heroes as villains, and at the time it was the only way to have any gay representation at all (don't get me wrong Claremont was a huge pervert, but his X-Men was revolutionary in it's diversity for a big 2 comic).
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Skwirl posted:If you're talking about Emma Frost, she premiered in Claremont's X-Men which had twice as many gay coded heroes as villains, and at the time it was the only way to have any gay representation at all (don't get me wrong Claremont was a huge pervert, but his X-Men was revolutionary in it's diversity for a big 2 comic). I was talking about recently. Holy poo poo did Claremont do the gay coded villain, plus mostly they were chasing Kitty, because being gay/lesbian wasn't enough, they had to also be into 15 year olds. There's also Cameron Hodge who seems to be driven by his lust for Angel.
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Claremont had many (sexual) hangups, but gaybashing (or at least stereotyping more than the usual back in the day) isn't one I would attach to him to be honest.
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twistedmentat posted:There's also Cameron Hodge who seems to be driven by his lust for Angel. Claremont didn't write X-Factor, that one' is someone else's fault. What recent gay coded villains are you talking about? I'm not doubting you, just nothing springs to mind.
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Claremont also wrote Mystique and Destiny as a gay-coded relationship, which didn't have any of the usual negatives attached if I remember right.
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None of these people are professional TV critics, so take this with a grain of salt, but Runaways seems to be getting decent reactions from people who've seen a screener of the first two episodes. https://twitter.com/kelly_knox/status/900419556094521344 https://twitter.com/JimViscardi/status/901072322349731840 https://twitter.com/virtual_don/status/901063937977970689 https://twitter.com/OliverSava/status/900158204604297217 https://twitter.com/OliverSava/status/900381813415313408 I heard some not-so-good things from a friend at Hulu, but hopefully that's just him.
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Dammit I checked Hulu to see if the two episodes might be available for me and got all excited when I saw Runaways, episodes 1 and 2, but of course it's some teen drama show from 2012
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Aug 25, 2017 22:47
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Oliver Sava hates everything I like and likes everything I hate. He was reassigned from AoS on AV Club due to reader demand.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:16
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Yeah, Sava is a professional. He's kinda the AV Club's comics guy.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:32
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Sava also reviewed all, or at least a good chunk, of the DCAU shows for AVClub, and wasn't terrible at that, but yeah his AoS reviews were extremely out of step with how the commentariat viewed the show.
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Aug 25, 2017 23:41
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Did he rate them low and the viewers whined or he rated them high and the viewers told him how wrong he is?
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"The Tick" is pretty hilarious. Darkly hilarious compared to older versions of it. But hilarious.
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