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Parts Kit posted:I don't think so. It was almost shot for shot the Exile 3 opening though. Old Avernum 3's too.
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So, what's the word on balance? Is it Avernum 2's "non-casters can suck it" still?Doorknob Slobber posted:i always get disappointed when i remember spiderweb software didn't make Realmz ...I've been trying to remember this game for actual literal years, holy poo poo.
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ssschah/recommended/691830/ holy jeez
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ProfessorCirno posted:...I've been trying to remember this game for actual literal years, holy poo poo. i wish someone would release the latest mac version for pc and also remake it a zillion times it was so cool
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I glanced down at the comments and this got even more hilarious as apparently a ton of this weird petty poo poo isn't even true.
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Feb 1, 2018 06:26
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I didn't even remember there were supposed to be horses. This is after playing Exile III and the (previous) Avernum III remake.
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Doorknob Slobber posted:i wish someone would release the latest mac version for pc and also remake it a zillion times it was so cool I want to replay it just to see how much my memory matches the reality. I mostly remember that the "difficulty" slider only dialed up certain numbers (like number of enemies in a fight, how much health they have, and -- this is key -- how much experience they're worth) without otherwise really making the fights all that much harder. Win a few max-difficulty fights and your character would be so high-level that they were practically invulnerable.
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Oh hey, I just saw that and was about to share. Does that make any more sense to other people who have been following the series for 20 years now?
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Not really. A lot of it's not even accurate.
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Feb 1, 2018 18:25
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ProfessorCirno posted:So, what's the word on balance? Is it Avernum 2's "non-casters can suck it" still? All 3 of the games are easy to curbstomp with casters but by no means have ever been "suck it" for daring to go melee or archery. In fact that's been the case since the original Exile games. You can complete the game with any party composition you want, and you can put it on cruise control by running with casters.
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Feb 1, 2018 18:28
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Vogel has committed the sin of swapping the healing potion from the green potion sprite to the orange one and for this... he must die...
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Never played any of these games and slightly confused about the remakes of remakes, where do I start in TYOOL2018?
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Gyshall posted:Never played any of these games and slightly confused about the remakes of remakes, where do I start in TYOOL2018? If you want janky oldschool, find the original Exile games. They're pretty crude by modern standards but there are people that like that. Otherwise, start with Avernum: Escape from the Pit (the re-remake of Exile: Escape from the Pit). IMO there's little reason to play the first set of remakes. If you really liked the reremake trilogy, you can go checkout Avernums 4-6, which are a separate trilogy.
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POOL IS CLOSED posted:Not really. A lot of it's not even accurate. And yet most of the comments on said review are bitching at Jeff for pointing that fact out. Because god forbid a developer not just sit there and take it.
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Xander77 posted:Oh hey, I just saw that and was about to share. Does that make any more sense to other people who have been following the series for 20 years now? As someone that's been playing these games as a kid before Exile III even came out and Exile I and II hadn't even been Realmz-ified yet so they looked like this:  most these complaints seem to be with the whole series of re-remakes and not just the 3rd one
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Just started playing 3 for the first time and what constitutes a "day"? Is it actions/turns taken or triggers or what?
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Where do we think the reviewer posted a link to brigade with comments? Someplace where women are referred to as "females" for sure but I can't tell where.
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Feb 1, 2018 19:58
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Berke Negri posted:Exile I and II hadn't even been Realmz-ified yet
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Deki posted:And yet most of the comments on said review are bitching at Jeff for pointing that fact out. Because god forbid a developer not just sit there and take it. Unfortunately, you can't really win by engaging with comments and reviews as a creator. I didn't even think Vogel was really putting that guy on blast.
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Feb 1, 2018 20:23
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Realmz and the Exile series shared a set of assets for awhile; mostly stuff like item icons if I recall correctly. But the basic ogre monster sprite was also used in Realmz, for example. I don't know if one company paid the other company to access their assets, or if both companies bought them from elsewhere.
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ProfessorCirno posted:I glanced down at the comments and this got even more hilarious as apparently a ton of this weird petty poo poo isn't even true. I'm amazed how many peopled marked that as 'positive' since it mostly seems to just be bitching about the fact that it's not EXACTLY the same as Avernum 3/Exile 3.
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Gorelab posted:I'm amazed how many peopled marked that as 'positive' since it mostly seems to just be bitching about the fact that it's not EXACTLY the same as Avernum 3/Exile 3. I read don't read that review as "bitching" so much as stating "I didn't like it and here's why." It's not some vehement hit piece, it's just inaccurate in places.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Realmz and the Exile series shared a set of assets for awhile; mostly stuff like item icons if I recall correctly. But the basic ogre monster sprite was also used in Realmz, for example. I don't know if one company paid the other company to access their assets, or if both companies bought them from elsewhere.
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And Tyler Too! posted:All 3 of the games are easy to curbstomp with casters but by no means have ever been "suck it" for daring to go melee or archery. In fact that's been the case since the original Exile games. You can complete the game with any party composition you want, and you can put it on cruise control by running with casters. Thing is, non-casters do literally nothing better then casters in Avernum 2. In Avernum 1, though it took some kinda specific itemization, you could have a (single) non-caster who could at least put out single target damage better then spellcasters could. This wasn't amazing - there are a number of problems non-casters face, and "I can do real good single target damage" isn't super valuable in a game where AoE damage is far more important - but it was still a "thing." In Avernum 2, they didn't even have that. This isn't "spellcasters are better because they have more options," this is "spellcasters render non-spellcasters literally obsolete." Gorelab posted:I'm amazed how many peopled marked that as 'positive' since it mostly seems to just be bitching about the fact that it's not EXACTLY the same as Avernum 3/Exile 3. Schwarzwald posted:I read don't read that review as "bitching" so much as stating "I didn't like it and here's why." The dude hasn't played the game. Large swathes of his complaints are straight up falsehoods. Like, we're laughing at the loving horses thing...but there are horses in the remake. Like, you can literally look at his profile to see that he's only played about 3 hours of the game - and going off comments, he didn't even have that much when he first wrote this. This is 100% a bizarre hit piece.
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Wait are there horses? I think I missed them and didn't even realize that bit was false.
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ProfessorCirno posted:Thing is, non-casters do literally nothing better then casters in Avernum 2. In Avernum 1, though it took some kinda specific itemization, you could have a (single) non-caster who could at least put out single target damage better then spellcasters could. This wasn't amazing - there are a number of problems non-casters face, and "I can do real good single target damage" isn't super valuable in a game where AoE damage is far more important - but it was still a "thing." Yes casters are broken. That doesn't mean melee/archers are "obsolete," but they're certainly less appealing than casters if you're just trying to wipe out enemy groups effortlessly. I like having one melee meatshield and a high gymnastics archer to finish off near-dead enemies. I'd like to make the game last a bit longer and if that means I'm not going to progress as quickly because I didn't choose to make a spergy minmaxing all caster group then so be it. I like hitting stuff with swords and putting arrows in stuff. It's less efficient but the funhaver in me likes that.
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The one I noticed was that you couldn't enter Lorelei(sp?) If you just ran there in Exile 3 either, but apparently that's a bad change, that writer is an idiot
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GodFish posted:The one I noticed was that you couldn't enter Lorelei(sp?) If you just ran there in Exile 3 either, but apparently that's a bad change, that writer is an idiot Yeah I'm pretty sure that's been true in every version. I think you could skip to the Isle of Bengali but going too far north everyone would just hate your rear end earlier on.
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Should I finish Crystal Souls before going for Avernum 3? For reference I just came up out of the underground and immediately went 'wugh help' as I got paralyzed by choice, and then Monster Hunter fell on me. I think I got the major plot beats down though and I did just get given a 20% off voucher out the blue
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It’s worth beating them in order.
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GodFish posted:The one I noticed was that you couldn't enter Lorelei(sp?) If you just ran there in Exile 3 either, but apparently that's a bad change, that writer is an idiot
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Stelas posted:Should I finish Crystal Souls before going for Avernum 3? For reference I just came up out of the underground and immediately went 'wugh help' as I got paralyzed by choice, and then Monster Hunter fell on me. I think I got the major plot beats down though and I did just get given a 20% off voucher out the blue Crystal Souls is a pretty good game, and it provides some important background information for Avernum 3, but Vogel's generally pretty good about keeping his players informed, so it's not like you won't have a clue what's going on if you skip it.
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Important question: is capture soul/simulacrum in the game?
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Bold Robot posted:Important question: is capture soul/simulacrum in the game? yes, you can get it pretty early too
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Stelas posted:Should I finish Crystal Souls before going for Avernum 3? For reference I just came up out of the underground and immediately went 'wugh help' as I got paralyzed by choice, and then Monster Hunter fell on me. I think I got the major plot beats down though and I did just get given a 20% off voucher out the blue The intro sequence, should you choose not to skip it, will quickly bring you up to date on big picture events from Avernum 1 & 2.
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Parts Kit posted:In Exile 3 you have to beat at least one of the main plot dungeons before they'll let you in. Gotta have that rep for being a helper. Yeah, you have to do either 1 or 2 before you can start on 3 or 4, and you have to do either 3 or 4 before you can get to the end game.
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Why is Avernum 2 mysteriously $20 the day the 3rd game comes out. 1 is $5! I was going to grab both of them together, and now I'm going to end up grabbing 3 and sitting on it?
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