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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

dispatch_async posted:

Sounds like the Lib Dems want to help the Japanese put Are Brave Hard Working BRITISH Porn Stars out of work.

British Porn For British Wankers.

Have you *seen* British porn? It makes the British car industry look vibrant and competent.

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big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

quote:

“in 2010 a man was sent a pornographic video purporting to be of a tiger and a woman engaging in a sex act but which turned out to be a man dressed as a tiger – a fact that was only uncovered in the courtroom”

If I remember the story correctly wasn't he pretending to be specifically Tony the Tiger?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Have you *seen* British porn? It makes the British car industry look vibrant and competent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHI9-_Moig

big scary monsters posted:

If I remember the story correctly wasn't he pretending to be specifically Tony the Tiger?

Yes.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

dispatch_async posted:

Sounds like the Lib Dems want to help the Japanese put Are Brave Hard Working BRITISH Porn Stars out of work.

British Porn For British Wankers.

two in a month, we're on a roll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrUDftDkH3E

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Regarde Aduck posted:

But using this as an argument for suicide seems a bit... negative? Maybe I just misunderstood the original intent but making suicide easier for people just feels like giving up on the problem. I've suffered depression all my life but luckily never to the level of contemplating suicide. I'd hate to think that people would ever consider it a favour and progress to hand me a noose and tell me "gently caress society, you do what you feel is best".
We're not necessarily discussing that in the current context, just that requiring a license to buy argon or nitrogen tanks that aren't adulterated with too much oxygen to make them useful for their intended purpose but too little to stop you getting brain damage is the stupidest idea.

Take for example, the classic counterargument to a person's right to die, a teenager distraught over the breakup of their high school romance. They should be kept from irrational decisions, but I really doubt that they're going to ring up BOC, pay the £35 or whatever it is now tank deposit, drive to the nearest filling depot in their parent's hatchback, get the attendant to load bottle, etc. etc. For the same reasons as the painkiller pack size limit, there's more than a big enough barrier.

At the complete other end of the spectrum, an older person suffering a crippling wasting disease but who can't afford to go to Switzerland might take a few days to plan that instead. That's a bad situation, but it's their call on it.

There are some edge points. A worker laid off from their job, who comes under increasing financial pressure, who feels a failure at providing for their kids, who feels like a parasite whenever they're on the way to the dole office and they pick up a paper and read about scroungers; they might decide to take a few days to plan something like that. The solution to that is to stop treating people like that like poo poo in the first place, not to make them plan to throw themselves in front of a train instead of buying a gas bottle.

I can't think of any problem that has been solved by that specific solution to the alleged scourge of welding gases, and a few that have been caused by it.

TomViolence posted:

Eh, there's some solid philosophical arguments to be made that life is not worth living due to the inevitability of harm and suffering coming to you and the asymmetric relationship between such suffering and any fleeting pleasure you may experience.
Mostly Ligotti and Mainlander. Even Schopenhauer, pessimist as he was, recommended trying art and philosophy first.

big scary monsters posted:

If I remember the story correctly wasn't he pretending to be specifically Tony the Tiger?
Fursecution.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal
Sorry to prolong suicide-chat, but wouldn't a heroin overdose be reasonably pleasant? Of course it is illegal, but not that hard to procure I'd have thought. Certainly not enough to make acid seem a sane alternative.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Oh dear me posted:

Sorry to prolong suicide-chat, but wouldn't a heroin overdose be reasonably pleasant? Of course it is illegal, but not that hard to procure I'd have thought. Certainly not enough to make acid seem a sane alternative.

Easy to gently caress it up though. All it takes is some helpful soul to shoot you full of naloxone and your last blissful nod becomes your new worst day ever. Or you enjoy it so much you decide to carry on living and then fall into a smack addiction.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Oh dear me posted:

Sorry to prolong suicide-chat, but wouldn't a heroin overdose be reasonably pleasant? Of course it is illegal, but not that hard to procure I'd have thought. Certainly not enough to make acid seem a sane alternative.

opiates have a hella big therapeutic range so the LD50 is high, and it's normally asphyxia through some means or other. On top of that, good loving luck dosing your heroin in the only country that had a sample range of 1-100% on the street.

There really aren't many ways to die that can be described as pleasant.
e; frankly if I had an affordable and reliable heroin source I'd have never given up the stuff, buying in the UK exposes you to far bigger dangers and damages than diacetylmorphine itself.

TomViolence posted:

Easy to gently caress it up though. All it takes is some helpful soul to shoot you full of naloxone and your last blissful nod becomes your new worst day ever. Or you enjoy it so much you decide to carry on living and then fall into a smack addiction.

Switzerland wins there too. Free heroin!

Spangly A fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Sep 19, 2016

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Guavanaut posted:

Mostly Ligotti and Mainlander. Even Schopenhauer, pessimist as he was, recommended trying art and philosophy first.

You forgot Peter Wessel Zapffe and David Benatar (though Ligotti did borrow many of his MALIGNANTLY USELESS ideas from them)! :argh:

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

As some nerds of my acquaintance never stop telling me, hentai now is the term for all Japanese cartoon porn and not just the really weird stuff

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

MrL_JaKiri posted:

As some nerds of my acquaintance never stop telling me, hentai now is the term for all Japanese cartoon porn and not just the really weird stuff

Isn't the venn diagram of Japanese cartoon porn and really weird stuff pretty much just a circle though?

edit: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Zapffe seems like a really chill dude who actively enjoyed life the same way i actively enjoy cigarettes; sure it's bad for you but hell.

And oh yeah, we both forgot Cioran, but I've never been able to get hold of any of his stuff translated into english. Guess what I'm saying is, don't ever let anyone tell you life is precious or that you should be grateful for it or that suicide is the preserve of the mad or terminally ill. It's entirely down to the individual whether they should want to continue their life or perpetuate the cycle or pick the right moment to jump off.

TomViolence fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Sep 19, 2016

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

TomViolence posted:

You forgot Peter Wessel Zapffe and David Benatar (though Ligotti did borrow many of his MALIGNANTLY USELESS ideas from them)! :argh:
I always felt Zapffe was more 'just stop breeding and wait a while, and everything will sort itself out', which I guess you could say is a passive take on the same thing.

TomViolence posted:

Isn't the venn diagram of Japanese cartoon porn and really weird stuff pretty much just a circle though?
A circle with five dicks shoved in it. And the circle itself has a dick.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

TomViolence posted:

Isn't the venn diagram of Japanese cartoon porn and really weird stuff pretty much just a circle though?

Shrug, although Venn diagrams don't work like that :goonsay:

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
They do if there's only one category.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

TomViolence posted:

Isn't the venn diagram of Japanese cartoon porn and really weird stuff pretty much just a circle though?

Sorry, the existence of terminally dull vanilla porn is a cultural constant for humanity.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Not in Japan

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

Spangly A posted:

second example: wasps. Evolution can go gently caress itself.

This. It seems they only exist to be bastards.

I fell on a wasp nest when I was 12 and you can imagine the supper happy not good fun time I had after that.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

XMNN posted:

Not in Japan

to be fair, I'd take Japan's more, I dunno, "liberal" take on porn than what the British industry churns out. This is also not to say that British pornstars are terrible either

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:

I fell on a wasp nest when I was 12 and you can imagine the supper happy not good fun time I had after that.

I can imagine the super happy not good fun time those wasps had when you fell on their home and crushed countless wasplets in their little hexagonal cribs

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

to be fair, I'd take Japan's more, I dunno, "liberal" take on porn than what the British industry churns out. This is also not to say that British pornstars are terrible either

You want it all to be censored?

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
I mean, weird anime note aside our laws are bizarrely victorian and we could really do with going with the "if it was consensual you do you" kind of approach. The fact the government's decided dominatrixes are a little too outre for their tastes and have tried to clamp down on kink is bizarrely paternalistic.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

spectralent posted:

I mean, weird anime note aside our laws are bizarrely victorian and we could really do with going with the "if it was consensual you do you" kind of approach. The fact the government's decided dominatrixes are a little too outre for their tastes and have tried to clamp down on kink is bizarrely paternalistic.

Heh heh heh.

That aside, of course women having power is bad and filthy and perverse.

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

spectralent posted:

The fact the government's decided dominatrixes are a little too outre for their tastes and have tried to clamp down on kink is bizarrely paternalistic.

However, it is very, very Tory. Especially in its level of probable hypocrisy.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Kokoro Wish posted:

However, it is very, very Tory. Especially in its level of probable hypocrisy.

I think they just outlawed their own kinks specifically so there's that extra thrill of sleezily breaking the law and the extra extra thrill of knowing you'll never actually be punished for it.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Have you *seen* British porn? It makes the British car industry look vibrant and competent.
I think you mean thrusting and dominant

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

XMNN posted:

Not in Japan

Clearly, you ain't been looking hard enough.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Kokoro Wish posted:

However, it is very, very Tory. Especially in its level of probable hypocrisy.

the "extreme porn" ban was a Labour thing, as were the BBFC updates to the r18 certificates banning quite a lot of fairly mainstream kinks from certification (although in the latter case the decision was made with no apparent pressure on them).

If you now tell me that facesitting is illegal in the UK I will have to tweak you (something that is also still perfectly legal)

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

OwlFancier posted:

You want it all to be censored?

When I said "liberal" I meant "really loving weird". Though the BBFC's censorship rules are seemingly driving all of our deviants to PornHub if the names of the scenes "Hot Videos In The UK" and "Most Watched In The UK" are meant to be believed

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

If you now tell me that facesitting is illegal in the UK I will have to tweak you (something that is also still perfectly legal)

Oh wait not twerk

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

When I said "liberal" I meant "really loving weird". Though the BBFC's censorship rules are seemingly driving all of our deviants to PornHub if the names of the scenes "Hot Videos In The UK" and "Most Watched In The UK" are meant to be believed

I uh, I think those lists are actually generated based on your previous watching history...

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

When I said "liberal" I meant "really loving weird". Though the BBFC's censorship rules are seemingly driving all of our deviants to PornHub if the names of the scenes "Hot Videos In The UK" and "Most Watched In The UK" are meant to be believed

The first one that pops up for me is "Dad thinks I'm mom" :raise:

OwlFancier posted:

I uh, I think those lists are actually generated based on your previous watching history...

That's possible, although as I don't go to pornhub that seems unlikely to have affected it in my case

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

baka kaba posted:


Mulberry Bush, HMP Wakefield, West Yorkshire. Nominated by Judy Dowling

It is thought that it is the mulberry bush where the nursery rhyme “Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush” has its origins.




More like brexit metaphor of the year

That Mulberry bush seems to be growing (or possibly dying) in the most unsuitable location possible.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I assume it wasn't always a prison.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Ah yes, pornography, just what I tune into UKMT to discuss.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Pistol_Pete posted:

That Mulberry bush seems to be growing (or possibly dying) in the most unsuitable location possible.

Funny, I thought Konami canned the new Silent Hill game.

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Tesseraction posted:

Ah yes, pornography, just what I tune into UKMT to discuss.

It's that or suicide, dealer's choice.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

TomViolence posted:

Funny, I thought Konami canned the new Silent Hill game.

a silent hill set in yorkshire doesn't even need a shift to the dark world

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Tesseraction posted:

Ah yes, pornography, just what I tune into UKMT to discuss.

No sex please, we're UKMTish.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Blasmeister posted:

It's that or suicide, dealer's choice.

Someone hasn't heard of Suicide Girls. :colbert:

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Tesseraction posted:

Ah yes, pornography, just what I tune into UKMT to discuss.

Labour's about to elect a man with a twenty-nine-inch wanger. This topic could not be more relevant.

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