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When you can’t spot the moon, And it sees you too soon, That’s TPK
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Mar 28, 2024 14:05
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Doesn't the planet Krynn from Dragonlance have three moons and only people who practice the right kind of magic can see them, and then usually only one of them?
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Mar 28, 2024 14:18
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Doesn't the planet Krynn from Dragonlance have three moons and only people who practice the right kind of magic can see them, and then usually only one of them? I do know that in Eberron, the moons are the other planes, though.
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Mar 28, 2024 14:24
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Doesn't the planet Krynn from Dragonlance have three moons and only people who practice the right kind of magic can see them, and then usually only one of them? Krynn does indeed have three moons, lunitari (red), solinari (white), and nuitari (black). They're also the names of and represent/are tied to the three gods of Magic, Neutral, Good, and Evil, respectively. The fact that I still know all this decades later saddens me on some level, but hey. I can't remember only the Mages that swear allegiance to them (since Krynn has that whole red/white/black robed wizards thing) being able to see any of them, but that *might* be the case with Nuitari, the black one?
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Mar 28, 2024 14:31
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That was only the case with Nuitari the black moon, yes.
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Mar 28, 2024 14:49
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I wonder what came first, moon visibility rule debates or secret hidden evil moons.
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Mar 28, 2024 14:56
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It would be awesome for there to be some race of shadow people in your campaign setting always doing stuff but it takes a DC 40 or something to see them. Only high level chargers see them sometimes, or some poor schmoe who got in a situation by coincidence with a bonuses stacked up and has a luckily high check and now is a crazy conspiracy theorist
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Mar 28, 2024 14:58
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Everyone on Krynn could see the red and white moons, but the black moon was only visible to black-robed wizards. There was one exception to that, the Night of the Eye, a rare celestial occurrence where all three moons would be in alignment, black in front of the other two, red in the middle, and white in the back. There was also at least one novel that mentioned that even though the black moon itself wasn't visible to normal people, smart folks could still track its position by noting the positions of the stars in the night sky and paying attention to when certain stars would briefly disappear as the moon passed in front of them.
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Mar 28, 2024 16:06
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Elder Scrolls has similar: there's a Dark Moon that's only revealed when both the grey moon Secunda and the red moon Masser eclipse the sun at the same time. Dunno if you could track it by occlusion, reality and physics can be a bit subjective in TES so it might be that the moon only exists as a perceivable object during that time. (Oh and there's also a moon called the Necromancer's Moon that's the divine body of the King of Worms, which popped into existence at the end of Daggerfall when he became the God of Worms, but that's tiny and out there and you can only tell it's there because occasionally it occludes one of the other planets, Arkay. Arkay is the god of death so that gives you a time where you can bend the laws of death a bit) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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Mar 28, 2024 17:07
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Elden Ring also has a secret moon you can only see from certain places. I never realized secret moons were such a popular fantasy staple. John Wick of Dogs posted:It would be awesome for there to be some race of shadow people in your campaign setting always doing stuff but it takes a DC 40 or something to see them. Only high level chargers see them sometimes, or some poor schmoe who got in a situation by coincidence with a bonuses stacked up and has a luckily high check and now is a crazy conspiracy theorist John Dies at the End would make a great campaign setting.
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Mar 28, 2024 17:15
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GlyphGryph posted:John Dies at the End would make a great campaign setting. My head hurts thinking about trying to convert the way that world is implied to work into a campaign setting.
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Mar 28, 2024 17:17
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W.T. Fits posted:There was also at least one novel that mentioned that even though the black moon itself wasn't visible to normal people, smart folks could still track its position by noting the positions of the stars in the night sky and paying attention to when certain stars would briefly disappear as the moon passed in front of them.  so the moon isn't magically invisible it's magically camouflaged
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Mar 28, 2024 17:18
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:
It's painted with vantablack
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Mar 28, 2024 17:26
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GlyphGryph posted:Elden Ring also has a secret moon you can only see from certain places. I've ran a few one shots and mini-campaigns inspired by JDatE and it works super well. I used Unknown Armies and ORE (Nemesis), but I am pretty sure it should flow with whatever horror system one likes best.
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Mar 28, 2024 17:45
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It would be awesome for there to be some race of shadow people in your campaign setting always doing stuff but it takes a DC 40 or something to see them. Only high level chargers see them sometimes, or some poor schmoe who got in a situation by coincidence with a bonuses stacked up and has a luckily high check and now is a crazy conspiracy theorist The shadow people are actually just stagehands. And obviously ninjas have the power to disappear by disguising as stagehands.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:27
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Dragonlance's moon mage orders were neat.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:40
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Kyte posted:The shadow people are actually just stagehands. Modern day ninjas wear green bodysuits.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:50
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And sometimes it's blue.
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Mar 28, 2024 19:57
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Raenir Salazar posted:Dragonlance's moon mage orders were neat. The only thing more unethical than a regular wizard is a moon wizard
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Mar 29, 2024 03:52
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MikeJF posted:(Oh and there's also a moon called the Necromancer's Moon that's the divine body of the King of Worms, which popped into existence at the end of Daggerfall when he became the God of Worms, but that's tiny and out there and you can only tell it's there because occasionally it occludes one of the other planets, Arkay. Arkay is the god of death so that gives you a time where you can bend the laws of death a bit) Note that the Necromancer's moon is Arkay's moon, not Nirn's.
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Mar 29, 2024 11:02
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Captain Oblivious posted:The only thing more unethical than a regular wizard is a moon wizard 
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Mar 29, 2024 11:12
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Raenir Salazar posted:Dragonlance's moon mage orders were neat. I did always love the idea that the average person assumed there were only two moons, and only wizards and astronomers knew about the secret invisible third moon, which only became visible during eclipses.
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Apr 5, 2024 02:51
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Rando question but are there any plotholes in OOTS? Or is the story that AIRTIGHT?
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Apr 7, 2024 12:20
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Satisfaction Guaranteed posted:Rando question but are there any plotholes in OOTS? lol i mean it's sort of lampshaded itself out of having to care, hasn't it? if there was a plothole someone would just point at it and shrug. i think it's reasonably tight as such things go, though?
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Apr 7, 2024 12:30
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Satisfaction Guaranteed posted:Rando question but are there any plotholes in OOTS? It's not that it doesn't have plot holes and more that Rich takes care of patching them up afterwards if needed. For example, I'd say that when Rich introduced the idea that the material plane is just a fresh iteration and no mortal is aware of it, there was definitely a huge plot hole there since mortals talk to extraplanar entities or even visit other planes all the time. Rich adding a throwaway line "oh, we just wipe every outsider's memories on reset" is what I mean by patching over the plot hole - it's clumsy, but it works if you don't overthink it.
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Apr 7, 2024 12:40
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Satisfaction Guaranteed posted:Rando question but are there any plotholes in OOTS? Remember that OOTS started out as a lightweight comic making fun of D&D tropes. The plot didn't begin until 200 strips in.
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Apr 7, 2024 13:45
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He decided there would be a plot around comic #6 The third comic he ever wrote involved durkon turning undead. He decided to delay it for plot reasons
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Apr 7, 2024 13:51
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It is perfect as delivered from the hand of Burlew himself.
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Apr 7, 2024 14:05
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I remember discussing the timeline of events between the Scribble Adventures and now, and I don't think they entirely add up? I forget the actual reason, but if you break it down, only forty years passed between Shojo being a little kid and him being eighty.
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Apr 7, 2024 14:18
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Timelines are hard, the one fault I have with Planescape Torment is that it's really got some holes on when and for how long each of the Incarnations existed.
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Apr 7, 2024 14:36
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I remember discussing the timeline of events between the Scribble Adventures and now, and I don't think they entirely add up? I forget the actual reason, but if you break it down, only forty years passed between Shojo being a little kid and him being eighty. i think you will find that a wizard literally did it
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Apr 7, 2024 14:36
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I think the other big one is Familicide should probably have killed a lot more people than it did.
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Apr 7, 2024 14:43
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Zore posted:I think the other big one is Familicide should probably have killed a lot more people than it did. How do people do the math on that, didn't it go all across the face of the world zapping people? Speaking of, the TV series Foundation had a neat version of that scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t05qXF5QLWw
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Apr 7, 2024 15:00
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Zore posted:I think the other big one is Familicide should probably have killed a lot more people than it did. I don't think dragons gently caress that much.
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Apr 7, 2024 15:02
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Zore posted:I think the other big one is Familicide should probably have killed a lot more people than it did. IIRC, the precise interpretation of "blood related" was chosen very conveniently so that it would kill Tarquin's wife without causing a global genocide. V said something like "anybody who is blood related to you, and anybody who is blood related to those people" but the first part propagated aggressively to all black dragons and dragon-blooded creatures, while the second part seems to have only affected close relatives. In hindsight, it was kinda unnecessary. Tarquin's dead wife could easily have been e.g. an estranged daughter of the Draketooth clan looking for her father, removing the need for the second clause.
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Apr 7, 2024 15:20
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I think it was just a way to have v openly commit genocide without drawing attention to the fact that it was genocide.
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Apr 7, 2024 15:28
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V says she estimates she took out 1/4 of all black dragons. Direct bloodline, then direct relation to that bloodline, so two degrees of separation.
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Apr 7, 2024 16:05
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ikanreed posted:I think it was just a way to have v openly commit genocide without drawing attention to the fact that it was genocide. I think if Rich didn't want to call attention to it, he'd have named it something else.
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Apr 7, 2024 16:08
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ikanreed posted:I think it was just a way to have v openly commit genocide without drawing attention to the fact that it was genocide. ...wasn't the whole point of V casting it BECAUSE it would be a very targeted genocide? Specifically V's lines about "Had you simply attacked me, I would have left it at this. But you dragged my family into it, so I'm making sure this can never happen again"? Almost 700 comics ago.
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Apr 7, 2024 16:17
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mycatscrimes posted:I think if Rich didn't want to call attention to it, he'd have named it something else. Randalor posted:Specifically V's lines about "Had you simply attacked me, I would have left it at this. But you dragged my family into it, so I'm making sure this can never happen again"? I know the point of the whole section was mostly to show that V was arrogant and nowhere near deserving of the power they were after, but it's also really interesting as a look at another angle on a theme Rich touches on a few times. Specifically, the truly heinous things people are capable of when they feel like they're justified and in the right. Miko was following her holy mission, Redcloak is fighting against a cosmic injustice, etc. girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 7, 2024 |
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