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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Bonk posted:

Search turned up nothing on this.

Lionsgate is working on another Cube film.

No word yet on whether it's a franchise reboot or an actual sequel, but it's being called Cube 3D so I'm thinking sequel considering there's 1, 2, and Zero.

The original was pretty brilliant, especially for its incredibly low budget. Okay, so the sequels sucked and were fairly unnecessary, but they brought up some good concepts. Still, I've always been fascinated by this series and have wanted to see more, so I'll watch it.

Too bad there already was a third Cube, otherwise the people making this could have been all :haw: about calling it 3D.

I really disliked all the Cube-sequels. The first one was really tense and claustrophobic, and the most interesting thing was how the prisoners reacted to that. Then the second and third were all about :techno: and were answering questions that never needed answering and THE MILITARY COMPLEX and it was all very bad :(

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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I was really on the fence about that movie for a while, but my dislike for prequels, the horrible job they did at constructing the world that would have the Cube and the general B-movie feel made me set the switches to 'dislike'. It definitely had it's moments. Hypercube did, too. But as constituents of a franchise, I found them awfully disappointing.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Well put. I'd add that, in Cube Zero, they went into unnecessary exposition about the outer world, ruining much of the mystery of the first movie. Hypercube already got all the :rolleyes: I could spare by going the The Military Did It-route, and then Cube Zero upped it by fleshing out the retarded notion that there are "Cube Soldiers" that apparently have a "Cube Logo" on their forehead, and that the Cube is used to get rid of political opponents and regime critics.

The people in the first Cube felt real, they had everyday jobs and the society they came from seemed vaguely our-ish. The second one kept this mostly intact until the end, except for the whole :psyduck: aspect of the science, but the third one went full retard with background and justification for the Cube's existence.

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Mar 5, 2011

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Juanito posted:

If only Human Centipede 2 had been censored and banned! Then we wouldn't have kids running around wrapping barbwire around their dick!

Spoiler that poo poo man, movie ruined!

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Mar 5, 2011

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Bonk posted:

Final Final Destination: Everyone Dies Everywhere™

Come on, you'd watch it.

Final Destination: Domino Death. Three hours of people falling over and "accidentally" stabbing the person in front of them in the back with an umbrella.

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Mar 5, 2011

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QPZIL posted:

The ninth Hellraiser movie, Hellraiser: Revelations comes out next month. Why should anyone care? Well first off, you shouldn't, but this is the first Hellraiser movie to not star Doug Bradley.



Oh dear oh dear... that just looks stupid :(

Trailer below
http://www.slashfilm.com/hellraiser-revelations-trailer-ninth-time-charm/

That looks atrociously bad. Weren't there plans for a remake of the first one on the table? At this point I'd take a reboot of the franchise with some fresh ideas over... whatever this is.

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Mar 5, 2011

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IMB posted:

How does that fit in with Hellraiser, at all? Pinhead became this weird judge of morality. Oh well, I guess I'm being too harsh on a direct to dvd movie, but it just sucked out loud.

The good Hellraiser movies were all about people obsessed with their own desires descending into hell and being torn apart because they didn't read the small print that said that the ultimate sensation wasn't just about sex, but about pain as well.

Hellraiser 5 is perfectly in line with that, it's about a guy who thinks he is in control when his desires cause him to spin out of control.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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While I liked Devil's Rejects a lot I'm still not sure how it's a sequel to House of 1000 Corpses. It starts in a house where there are a lot of corpses, sure enough. And there are maybe 3 1/2 characters that are kind of like characters from Corpses, but other than that I felt the two movies weren't connected, at all.

Are there any other connections between the two movies apart from some members of the family in Rejects being kind of like some characters in Corpses?

And where's Doctor Satan?

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

House of 1000 Corpses is told as the extremely sensationalized "funhouse" version of the "actual events" (hence why the film frequently cuts to mundane video footage). While it's extremely arguable that Devil's Rejects is "more real", it's definitely more naturalistic due to the change in genre. Doctor Satan may not have even existed, and was simply an embellishment added to the real story. Both films explore the distinctly American fascination with celebrity serial killers (see also: the Zombie Halloweens' deconstruction of Myers' slasher-franchise stardom).

This makes a lot of sense, thank you. It's been a long time since I have seen either movie, but when thinking about them both what I remember most vividly is the difference in tone. Corpses being a kind of funhouse version of events leading up to Rejects would explain that rather elegantly, and the feverish quality the end of that movie has.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Is it a prequel? Please don't let it be a prequel.

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weekly font posted:

Horror to me is kind of like hip hop. You've got these assholes who go "Oh, that's easy cause it's just talking I can do that!" and then someone shits out Captain Dan. But no, gently caress you, it isn't. It's an art like any other music and requires a lot more skill than clearly you have ever ventured to comprehend. It feels like there are way too many writers? directors? producers? who say "Eh, horror, that's easy cause it's just blood I can do that!" But no. gently caress you. Horror can be great but when you write hackneyed films with cliched plots, unlikable characters and treat the audience with utter contempt you don't have anything but a waste of everyone's time.

I like to think that Jason is the Sir Mix-A-Lot in this anaolgy.

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Grendels Dad
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DrVenkman posted:

I could launch a massive defence for Hostel but I won't do it right now. I think the SAW movies are guilty of what you're suggesting but I wouldn't say the HOSTEL movies are.

For some reason this post makes me think that there are fan communities for SAW and Hostel similar to those of Star Trek and Star Wars, constantly pestering each other and accusing the other franchise of being inferior, torture porn, cheap cash grabs etc. If this is wrong, please don't tell me, it's a fun image.


I recently watched Sauna, a Finish movie that I think I saw recommended in this very thread. I rather liked it, even though I didn't quite understand the end. I guess it was all about redemption and how it won't be achieved by the protagonists, but I had trouble understanding the significance of some things, like the number that pops up, I think it's 75. It's stated as the number of people Eerik has killed, and later it's revealed that it's the exact number of people living in the village, and then after Knut starts taking people to the sauna it increases. I had trouble connecting the two, the amount of people Eerik had killed and the villagers that apparently get taken to the sauna one by one to be damned forever.

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Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Maybe the Devilman movies? I haven't seen them in forever, but the first one had nice creepy atmosphere whereas I remember the second one as a more conventional superhero anime.

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DeimosRising posted:

It doesn't, it's half awful tactical realism discussions and half harem anime. The closest thing to interesting is that the lead and his main love interest are (more or less explicitly) clinically psychopathic, but that goes nowhere. It does, however, feature an amazing shot of a girl in a porned up school girl outfit, with a gun, and the camera starts facing her, then pans up to show her from above, comes down to show her from behind, then goes under her, between her legs for a panty shot, then back to framing her from the front. It's completely inexplicable and hilarious.

I too couldn't make it through the first fifteen minutes of High School of the Dead, but those fifteen minutes gave me the impression the show's appeal was mostly nonsensical panty shots like that. For every killed zombie there seemed to be a panty shot or a shot of a female character's heaving bosom, I soon started to get more interested how this was classified as horror and not softcore porn.

Grendels Dad
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Related: What are some good horror movies featuring the medieval inquisition? I'm coming up blank except for The Name of the Rose which isn't fully horror, and that bugs me because I expect there's a whole sub-genre I don't know or can't think of.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Is Black Death any good? I like Sean Bean, will that help?

And ugh, I knew I was forgetting probably many classics and I have actually seen The Pit and the Pendulum, but not Witchfinder General. Thanks.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I actually had a copy of WG in my hands recently in my local store but opted for Midnight Meat Train instead. Since it's Payday tomorrow I guess I'll just go back and take the good General with me as well. While I'm at it I'll look for Black Death and Pit and the Pendulum too, they sounds neat. Thanks again.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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I... I don't have Netflix :(

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Sad Mammal posted:

I think "folk horror" overlaps enough in the Venn diagram that I can recommend you check out that genre. I liked A Field in England and Ken Russell's The Devils.

Yeah, I was thinking I might have overlooked one or more subgenres when thinking about this. Have read good things about A Field in England throughout the thread, wanted to check that out for a long time now.

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Hollismason posted:

I enjoyed it. It's not like the best in the world but it is actually super creepy towards the end and it has some half way decent gore.

I'm rewatching Horror from the 90s right now, specifically Event Horizon at this moment.Forgotten how well this film holds up except for a few minor bad CGI special effects.

Probably Anderson's only really good work other than Mortal Kombat.

Nobody respects/remembers (Star Force) Soldier :(

Grendels Dad
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Hollismason posted:

Eh , it has the nihilistic tone, but i've seen it to much to get any real enjoyment out of it.

I'm going back and rewatching movies from greater that 20+ years ago, just the kind of stuff you pick up off the shelf in the Video store horror section as a kid because it has a disturbing cover or a kick rear end cover. 80s horror.

Hitcher was mentioned a few pages ago, if you haven't already seen that it's plenty nihilistic.

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Sire Oblivion posted:

[Hitcher] owns but according to the thread you shouldn't watch anything else in the series. The original film does it all and better.

I kind of liked the remake, if only because I enjoy Sean Bean being a badass. Which is quite bad when I think about it, because Rutger Hauer wasn't really a badass so the remake kind of missed the point.

Grendels Dad
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I think a useful distinction that is highlighted by the term torture porn is that between suffering and, you know, torture. Torture means there is one guy going to work over another guy with a screwdriver, that's pretty specific and hardly applicable to all horror movies. I wouldn't even necessarily say Jason or the like really torture people, they just kill them. Very thoroughly.

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Jedit posted:

It's not about actual porn, you know. It's referred to as torture porn because the audience are deriving their entertainment solely from watching people get hurt. The movies have little attempt to generate atmosphere and minimal plot beyond that required to get the victims to the torturers.

Which, to tie this back to the original complaint about the term, is more than a little reductive. People like things about Saw other than the torture. Like the soap opera-level plot elements where he is her brother, but she is the aunt of that victim, all carried through several movies operating on several different levels of time.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Also, Costas Mandylor. I was ridiculously happy to see that guy after Picket Fences, then Fist of the North Star, then nothing.

Hey, he basically reprised his role from Picket Fences, just with more death.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Concerning King movies, I have a soft spot for Needful things.

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Jonny Angel posted:

He is not human. He is a monster, he claims. It's not that he has the mask of a theoretician, and beneath he is a more human person, he likes chocolate cakes, he likes this, he likes that, and so on, which makes him human. He rather prefers himself as someone who, not to offend others, pretends, plays that he is human.

So would you say that though he can hide his cold gaze and I can shake his hand and feel flesh gripping mine and maybe I can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable, that he simply is not there?

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MacheteZombie posted:

Wasn't he killed by Jigsaw's wife for not being the one true disciple or something?

I think you got it wrong. As far as I remember Gary Elves and his group of Jigsaw survivors capture him and drag him away since they are the once who truly continue Jigsaw's work. I kinda enjoyed that because it reminded me of a bunch of metal fans arguing about who is the true metal fan. And then a metal fan falls over and kills them both.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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And now I have to look up who John was. Was he the cop that got considerably thinner at the end of one movie? All these guys tend to blend together in a funny way. Somebody should do a "Previously on LOST" kind of summary for the next Saw, should it ever come out.

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DeathChicken posted:

Kramer. Jigsaw proper

:doh:

I read somewhere that watching soap operas is good for your short- and long-term memory, because keeping track of all the names and relationships is just good exercise for the brain. Which just makes me think I need to re-watch the Saw movies a bunch of times so this kind of thing doesn't happen.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Saw 7 also has that pregnant waitress from AvP: R, so if you liked her there watch Saw 7!

She was also in Harper's Island. I know that's a TV show but since it's basically Every Slasher Ever In 8 Episodes I'd still be interested to hear how and if it's regarded around here.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Seeing tropes executed well can be very satisfying. But I wouldn't say that I watch horror movies in a manner that's any more ritualistic than most other movies. It's not really what I want out of horror movies, that's more a visceral need I find difficult to articulate. For something like Harper's Island I'd say it's certainly because I like seeing tropes I'm familiar with executed well, even though that sounds a bit boring if you put it like that.

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Mar 5, 2011

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I have to be honest, I enjoy reading about Megan is Missing on here. It always sounds terrible and I will never watch that pile of poo poo, but there is a strange fascination in reading about just how vile it is.

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Basebf555 posted:

This may be a thin premise to bring up a movie I just watched last night but Nosferatu: The Vampyre pretty much blew me away and was also way more of a mindfuck than any other Dracula adaptation I've ever seen. Especially the first act where Harker is a prisoner in the castle, you feel like you are in his shoes and it is hard to tell what is real and what isn't.

Specifically though Kinski is the one that mindfucks you in this film. There have been very few actors ever to live that could pull off what he does in Nosferatu. I physically recoiled from the screen several times at the sight of him. I was terrified of him, yet there is something that draws your eyes to him, much like the actual vampire legends. Knowing Kinski, he probably convinced himself he was a real vampire and it shows because there aren't many performances out there as alien as this one. He simply doesn't feel human.

Makes me think they should remake Shadow of the Vampire but it's about this movie instead of the Murnau one, with Kinski being a real vampire. Kinski would be portrayed by Michael Shannon, naturally.

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Mar 5, 2011

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frozenpeas posted:

Are there any good found footage films that take place mostly in underwear?

I don't think so, but I could arrange something for a small fee.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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weekly font posted:

I've been wanting to see Hotel for years but can't find a place to watch it.

Two words: Public. Library.

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Mar 5, 2011

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Finally got around to watching The Descent and I must say, I wasn't particularly wowed. The movie kinda lost me when the monsters showed up, they looked like Gollum and I was constantly wondering why the ladies didn't just kick their asses. They seemed to be able to do that just fine a few times but then nope. The movie lost me for good when my girlfriend pointed out that that one scene reminded her of "that movie where that one guy gets covered in mud so the monster can't see him" and I spent the rest of the movie imagining Arnold busting through the caves, leaving Arnold-shaped holes in the rock while squashing feeble Gollum heads in each hand.

Actually, I think reading The Descent like it was Predator could be interesting, has this been done before?

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Kvlt! posted:

As someone who suffers from severe claustrophobia, that scene where she gets stuck in that tiny little tunnel was some of the most uncomftorable minutes in a movie I have ever seen.

Yeah I was fully prepared to call for a break during that because things like that get to me as well. I was expecting more of that. My biggest fear and also my biggest hope from reading about the movie was that it would be like Sanctum, which I didn't really liked but thought had potential re claustrophobia. But then the cave vampires came and sucked all the tension away.


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How would you read Predator? It's pretty straight forward.

It's just superficial similarities for now, unisex group of tough people ends up trapped and monsters hunt them. One of them gets covered in something sticky and lets out a primal scream while holding a torch. Stuff like that.

Grendels Dad fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Aug 16, 2014

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

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Well, I have seen Predator more recently and more frequently than Apocalypse Now.

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They both need a shower after that.

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