Thesoro posted:

Florida and Mississippi have been stayed as well. The light blue just means it's not an indefinite stay.

Shifty Pony posted:

The Texas Observer had asked a bunch of county clerks what they would do if the stay were lifted

Fort Worth continue to be awful, but Dallas is a go. Travis County (Austin) says they will have extended hours, but Bexar County (San Antonio) takes the cake:

quote:

Republican Bexar County Clerk Gerard C. “Gerry” Rickhoff said in addition to keeping his office open ’round-the-clock, he’s considering setting up tables in Main Plaza to accommodate same-sex couples. Rickhoff said he’s also lined up district judges to waive a 72-hour waiting period before ceremonies can occur, as well as officiants to conduct them.

“There’s a pent-up demand to stop these civil rights violations that are pretty evident,” Rickhoff said. “I would imagine they’ll be driving into San Antonio in droves, and that’s what we’re prepared for. Nobody will be turned away. We’ll work until there’s nobody left.”

SedanChair posted:

But Rickhoff does seem to be a very capable and principled administrator. All the articles about him online praise his reforms and attention to detail.

Here's an interesting article from a while back

http://www.sacurrent.com/sanantonio/glitter-political-the-eyes-of-gerry-rickhoff-are-upon-you/Content?oid=2250073

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Back in the states, Rickhoff enjoyed a seven-year stint teaching special ed at Southwest Independent School District where he learned the South Side “pretty drat well.” Perhaps fated to follow the footsteps of his father, he ran for County Clerk in 1990 and lost. “I wasn’t supported by my party originally,” he says. Undeterred, Rickhoff eventually acceded to the office in 1995.

katium posted:

^^^The city of Plano, Texas passed a non-discrimination ordinance this week.

On the non-fabulous side, Fayetteville, Arkansas voted via ballot to repeal a NDO.

evilweasel posted:

Texas doesn't become any better because we prevent them from imposing their bigoted impulses

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Daniel Williams, legislative specialist for Equality Texas, said in addition to the First Amendment, the state already has a statute that provides strong protections for religious freedom—known as the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, or RFRA. But Williams said the proposed constitutional amendments would supplant RFRA and go further, overriding exceptions in the statute for things like zoning regulations and civil rights laws.

“A church or a synagogue or a mosque could conceivably be built anywhere with no concern to traffic flow or how much parking is available or building codes,” Williams said. “There are butchers that butcher in accordance with very specific religious laws, and they’re able to do that, but the city and the state enforce environmental protections that ensure we don’t wind up with giant ponds of blood in residential neighborhoods. If you take away the ability of cities to enforce those, it’s going to have an enormous negative impact on the quality of life for everyone in that area.”

Wikipedia posted:

In 1977, Dade County, Florida, passed an ordinance sponsored by Bryant's former friend Ruth Shack that prohibited discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Bryant led a highly publicized campaign to repeal the ordinance as the leader of a coalition named Save Our Children. The campaign was based on conservative Christian beliefs regarding the sinfulness of homosexuality and the perceived threat of homosexual recruitment of children and child molestation. The campaign began an organized opposition to gay rights that spread across the nation. Jerry Falwell went to Miami to help her.
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The fallout from [Bryant's] political activism hurt her business and entertainment career. Her contract with the Florida Citrus Commission was allowed to lapse in 1979 because of the controversy and the negative publicity generated by her political campaigns and the resulting boycott of Florida orange juice.

Her marriage to Bob Green also failed at that time, and in 1980 she divorced him, citing emotional abuse and latent suicidal thoughts. Green refused to accept this, saying that his fundamentalist religious beliefs did not recognize civil divorce and that she was still his wife "in God's eyes." In 2007, Green stated: "Blame gay people? I do. Their stated goal was to put her out of business and destroy her career. And that's what they did. It's unfair."

Some fundamentalist audiences and venues shunned her after her divorce. As she was no longer invited to appear at their events, she lost another major source of income. With three of her four children, she moved from Miami to Selma, Alabama, and later to Atlanta, Georgia. In a 1980 Ladies Home Journal article she said, "The church needs to wake up and find some way to cope with divorce and women's problems." She also expressed some sympathy for feminist aspirations, given her own experiences of emotional abuse within her previous marriage.

She married her second husband, Charlie Hobson Dry, in 1990. The couple tried to reestablish her music career in a series of small venues, including Branson, Missouri, and Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, where they opened "Anita Bryant's Music Mansion." The establishment combined Bryant's performances of her successful songs from early in her career with a "lengthy segment in which she preached her Christian beliefs." The venture was not successful and the Music Mansion, which had missed meeting payrolls at times, filed for bankruptcy in 2001 with Bryant and Dry leaving behind a series of unpaid employees and creditors.

Bryant also spent part of the 1990s in the country music mecca of Branson, Missouri, where the state and federal governments filed liens claiming more than $116,000 in unpaid taxes. Bryant and Dry had also filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in Arkansas in 1997 after piling up bills from a failed Anita Bryant show in Eureka Springs, a tourist area in northwest Arkansas. Among the debts were more than $172,000 in unpaid state and federal taxes.

In 2005, Bryant returned to Barnsdall, Oklahoma, for the town's 100th anniversary celebration and to have a street renamed in her honor. She returned to her high school in Tulsa on April 21, 2007, to perform in the school's annual musical revue. She now lives in Edmond, Oklahoma.

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Bob Green, a onetime radio DJ who married pop singer and Miss Oklahoma Anita Bryant, was found dead Jan. 26 at his home in Miami Beach. He was 80.

Mr. Green managed his wife’s rise to stardom as an entertainer and Florida citrus spokeswoman, then followed her into anti-gay activism, which ultimately destroyed their careers — and marriage in 1980. For more than 30 years, Mr. Green lived quietly, alone and resentful. “Bob internalized a lot of his own anger and frustration and disappointments,” said Bryant, 71, on Wednesday from her home in Oklahoma City.

In 2007, Mr. Green told the Miami Herald that he blamed gay people for the turmoil in his life because “their stated goal was to put [Bryant] out of business and destroy her career. And that’s what they did. It’s unfair.”

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Bring on the apocalypse!!

AFA edition!

San Antonio, bastion of Awesomeness posted:

Republican Bexar County Clerk Gerard C. “Gerry” Rickhoff said in addition to keeping his office open ’round-the-clock, he’s considering setting up tables in Main Plaza to accommodate same-sex couples. Rickhoff said he’s also lined up district judges to waive a 72-hour waiting period before ceremonies can occur, as well as officiants to conduct them.

“There’s a pent-up demand to stop these civil rights violations that are pretty evident,” Rickhoff said. “I would imagine they’ll be driving into San Antonio in droves, and that’s what we’re prepared for. Nobody will be turned away. We’ll work until there’s nobody left.”

Lutha Mahtin posted:

Didn't we goon out over Rickhoff a few weeks ago too? Seems like a cool dude

forbidden lesbian posted:

thanks for posting the lyrics for all 2 people in this thread who have never heard the song.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I wonder if conservatives will be talking about Jeopardy from last night

slogsdon posted:

Living in Atlanta is rough because you just know how much better the city would be if everyone else in the state didn't try and actively sabotage it at every turn.

quote:

In case you're wondering just how many gay and lesbian couples could there possibly be in Bexar County, the San Antonio Metropolitan Area topped the nation in the percentage of same-sex couples raising children under the age of 18. That's according to a 2011 report by the Williams Institute at the University of California Los Angeles, which compiled statistics from the 2010 U.S. Census and American Community Survey. Of the estimated 3,484 same-sex couples in the area, 1080—yes, one in three same-sex couples—were raising minor children in 2011. According to updated statistics for 2013, 22 percent of same-sex couples are raising children in San Antonio, but the decline in percentage numbers could be attributed to population growth in the region. (The city that took San Antonio's top spot, interestingly enough, is Salt Lake City, Utah.)

Many of these couples spend thousands to make legal and financial arrangements designed to protect assets and ensure their families remain intact should medical emergencies or worse arise, because they do not have the automatic rights and protections that an $81 marriage license provides. If Garcia lifts his stay, many of these couples will scramble to the Bexar County Courthouse to take advantage of the benefits of a legal marriage.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

The head of Florida Family Policy Council

Bayard Rustin posted:

Bayard Rustin was an American leader in social movements for civil rights, socialism, pacifism and non-violence and gay rights. He was born and raised in Pennsylvania where his family was involved in civil rights work.

Rustin was a gay man who had been arrested for homosexual activity in 1953 (which was criminalized in parts of the United States until 2003). Rustin's sexuality, or at least his embarrassingly public criminal charge, was criticized by some fellow pacifists and civil-rights leaders. Rustin was attacked as a "pervert" or "immoral influence" by political opponents from segregationists to Black power militants, and from the 1950s through the 1970s. In addition, his pre-1941 Communist Party affiliation when he was a young man was controversial. To avoid such attacks, Rustin served only rarely as a public spokesperson. He usually acted as an influential adviser to civil-rights leaders. In the 1970s, he became a public advocate on behalf of gay and lesbian causes.
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Rustin was also a pioneer in the movement to desegregate interstate bus travel. In 1942, he boarded a bus in Louisville, bound for Nashville, and sat in the second row. A number of drivers asked him to move to the back, but Rustin refused. The bus was stopped by police 13 miles north of Nashville and Rustin was arrested. He was beaten and taken to the police station, but was released uncharged.

Rustin and Houser organized the Journey of Reconciliation in 1947. This was the first of the Freedom Rides to test the ruling of the Supreme Court of the United States that banned racial discrimination in interstate travel. Rustin and CORE executive secretary George Houser recruited a team of fourteen men, divided equally by race, to ride in pairs through Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky. The NAACP opposed CORE's Gandhian tactics as too meek. Participants in the Journey of Reconciliation were arrested several times. Arrested with Jewish activist Igal Roodenko, Rustin served twenty-two days on a chain gang in North Carolina for violating Jim Crow laws regarding segregated seating on public transportation.

Rustin was arrested in Pasadena, California, in 1953 for sexual activity with two other men in a parked car. Originally charged with vagrancy and lewd conduct, he pleaded guilty to a single, lesser charge of "sex perversion" (as consensual sodomy was officially referred to in California then) and served 60 days in jail. This was the first time that his homosexuality had come to public attention. He had been and remained candid about his sexuality, although homosexual activity was still criminalized throughout the United States. After his conviction, he was fired from FOR. He became the executive secretary of the War Resisters League.

At the White House ceremony on November 20, 2013, President Obama presented Rustin's award to Walter Naegle, his partner of ten years.

Royal W posted:

A faint glimmer of rationality from 'Bama:
Gay state Representative threatens to expose the extramarital affairs of "family values" lawmakers.
E: tag fixed

gatesealer posted:

I'm not actually sure how I feel about this. On one hand their hypocrisy is exposed. On the other hand it seems kind of underhanded.

e: Unless it turns out I'm wrong and this is from a satire site and I'm just bad at spotting that.

GhostBoy posted:

Fucks sake, you don't accept these tactics when used against your cause, so don't use them yourself.

rkajdi posted:

I know there's this idea that somehow we can out somebody and make Ted Haggart II happen, but honestly that won't happen and also moves you away from the moral high ground.

rkajdi posted:

* It also gives some credence to the guys talking about the shadowy "Gay Agenda" loving with people because of their opposition. Because if you start headhunting on this issue, you're no better than the shitheads who did the same to Clinton or Spitzer.

SubponticatePoster posted:

So glad to know that things like medical insurance, visitation, child custody, taxes and immigration are just "a few bones" compared with rich gays being allowed to hide their assets. Jesus gently caress, did Three Olives kill your dog or something?

Here's a loving tip: the majority of gay people getting married aren't rich, so that one thing you're worried about isn't going to affect 99% of gay marriages.

rkajdi posted:

It's like arguing with a White Nationalist from the starting position that he slept with a black person instead of the just dismissing his belief system out of hand. You don't get ahead by assuming your opponent's moral framework is correct and arguing within it, you get ahead by tearing it down and replacing it with your own.

Nintendo Kid posted:

Seriously though rkajdi if you think marriage is for hiding assets, uh, well I hope you're prepared to be audited by the IRS.

GhostBoy posted:

You very well may have zero fucks left to give, but are your helping by getting revenge?

rkajdi posted:

Clinton's affair was an issue to exactly three people-- Bill, Hillary, and Monica. Everyone else should have ignored it because it is precisely none of our loving business which consenting adult another adult fucks. This is the basis on why LGBT people are equal. Because what happens in the bedroom is only the business of the people in the bedroom. Hillary could have given a poo poo too if she wanted, but obviously she didn't care that much considering they are still married and any issues they had they worked though, even if it was to just keep it a marriage of convenience.

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[Hillary Clinton] told Walters that she struggled with whether or not she wanted to continue the marriage after the then-president told her the true nature of his relationship with former intern Monica Lewinsky. "The jury was really out about whether the marriage would survive, whether I wanted it to survive," she told Walters.

Walters, who interviewed Lewinsky in March 1999, said the former first lady revealed it took months of work to save her relationship after her husband's confession. "They went to marriage counseling. They had prayer meetings. It wasn't just 'Let's talk about it honey,' " Walters said on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America. "It was a long, long time."

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Alabama Baptists Convention has given a resolution on the gays

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Genesis 4:19 Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah.

Genesis 26:34 When Esau was forty years old, he married Judith daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and also Basemath daughter of Elon the Hittite. ...Esau then realized how displeasing the Canaanite women were to his father Isaac; so he went to Ishmael and married Mahalath, the sister of Nebaioth and daughter of Ishmael son of Abraham, in addition to the wives he already had.

Genesis 16:3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.

2 Samuel 5:13-16 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him. These are the names of the children born to him there: Shammua, Shobab, Nathan, Solomon, Ibhar, Elishua, Nepheg, Japhia, Elishama, Eliada and Eliphelet.

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Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”
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So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Pope Francis put his official support for bill

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Nelson Mandingo posted:

"THE FEDERAL BIG GUBMIT ATTACKING CHRISTIANS!!!" Actions like that would be unwise.

Vahakyla posted:

What is the best route to get Marriage Equality from sea to shining sea now that Alabama is on the gaytrain?

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I have a question: you have people who say they are ex gay and transgender. What is best argument when someone I know says these people are proof you can be cured and were these people really gay in first place

Stan posted:

"I'm choosing to have sex with you, and I'm not feeling anything. Maybe you're not doing it right."

CommieGIR posted:

FYI: The 'cures' involve what amounts to torture and abuse and is being steadily recognized as such by the American Psychiatric Association.

quote:

Gays and lesbians who go through gay ‘cures’ have told how it has left them suicidal or depressed with many reporting having sex with their counselors.The Ex-Gay Survivor’s Survey has been published by Jallen Rix on the Beyond Ex Gay website.

It shows 92% were harmed by the process, with many saying they were ‘devastated’. And 84% of victims say the damage continues to this day. One person says: ‘After the 11th electro-shock session (there were meant to be 12), I attempted suicide.’ Another reports: ‘[I] literally broke down and couldn’t take my hate for myself.’ While a third says: ‘I felt like I was bleeding to death, and no progress was being made.’

Many people in the survey quit the ex-gay movement, simply because it wasn’t working. One says: ‘I saw that NOBODY was being changed.’ While another reports: ‘Once I realized that I wasn’t going to be able to become straight, I started hoping that I would get in an accident or get a disease or something so I could die because I was so unhappy but didn't want to go to hell for suicide.’

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I also personally recall an Affirmation meeting in 1988 when a man showed up calling himself only David. He sat alone in a corner during our meeting and became extremely jittery when anyone approached him. I spoke with him but he requested that I remain at least six feet in distance away from him. He then rolled up his shirt sleeves and showed me his arms. The deeply-scarred skin on the inside of his arms looked like raw hamburger and I almost vomitted from the sight. He informed me that he had participated in electric shock therapy at BYU in 1977 and had been allowed to turn up the voltage as high as he wanted to. The results were badly burned arms and a complete inability to come physically close to any male without him emotionally breaking down from the trauma.

His homosexual desires were as strong as ever but he was unable to touch another man even for a simple hug, he had no heterosexual desires whatsoever, and he was constantly on the verge of suicide. David never returned to Affirmation and I suspect from his fragile emotional state that he did not survive his ordeal for much longer.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

BarbWire presents 7 Things to Expect Post-Supremes’ Marriage Ruling

Read more at http://barbwire.com/2015/02/19/0655-7-things-expect-post-supremes-marriage-ruling/

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1. A federal employment non-discrimination act (ENDA) endorsing “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” is a probable sequel, unless the GOP-dominated Congress uses good sense and prevents it. This will mean for all practical purposes that these behaviors will become federal civil rights akin to race. And then, local ordinances would pass quickly as well. What politician can withstand the accusation of “discrimination” against a “civil right”? There are few willing or able to make the case.

2. Following civil-rights status for homosexuality, religious freedom to object to it will begin to evaporate. It will take some time, but unless more Americans jump on board to defend their right to freedom of conscience, the media will sell America on the “fairness” of this.

3. Hate-crime laws adding “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” will be passed in many new states, and federal law will be amended to expand federal penalties, unless conservative GOP representatives hold the line. We can hope and pray they do.

4. FCC regulations are likely to follow the Canadian model, where faith-based broadcasts are required either to go silent on this issue or go off the air. Likewise, the Internet will be censored. Expect pages and postings to be blocked much more vigorously by Google, Facebook and others as counterfeit “marriage” and sodomy rights are defended by leftist information gatekeepers. Most government networks will block pro-family sites.

5. Schools will mandate, as the state of California already has, a uniformly pro-homosexual message, and this factless propaganda will be expanded into more of the curriculum, a message that will also be required for Christian schools after religious exemptions are dismantled.

And can you fathom sex education lessons under the spell of legal same-sex “marriage”? Abstinence-until-marriage will take on a whole new meaning, one that will make sure kids know that oral and anal sex are permissible even for young teens with that same-sex “date” as long as condoms and dental dams are used. After all, pregnancy is not a factor, so at what age will activists demand children be allowed to act on this new “civil right”? Eleven? Ten? Eight?

And homecoming king and queen? What a discriminatory, heterosexist custom! It will vanish in the glow of gender-less dating and courtship.

6. Churches will have to make some hard choices. Tax-exempt status may be removed unless a church pledges not to preach “hate” – and expect to be monitored for compliance as well as see issues upon which the church cannot preach expand to abortion, creation, the exclusivity of Christ as Savior, and so on.

After all, these are “hateful” messages in a godless new America.

7. As all this unfolds, the new tyranny will become one of the top issues of the 2016 presidential campaign. “What will you do to stop this nonsense?” Or, “Will you enforce the law on same-sex marriage and punish objectors?” Because the GOP has painted itself into a faux “tolerance” corner, they will be scrambling for a coherent message.

But many principled evangelicals will not vote for a president who waffles on these points, so the Democratic candidate– no matter who he/she is – will have an excellent chance at victory by seeming to occupy the moral high ground. The only possible change to this scenario is if the GOP nominates a courageous, authentic conservative.

This is a depressing picture, but this tsunami will be possible because advocates and defenders of “LGBT” rights have filled the chessboard with enough of the necessary pieces to win the policy game: in the bureaucracy, in the courts, in the executive branch, in the media, in our public schools, even in many churches – and even in the GOP.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Wow!

The woman who owned the Flower Shop that was charged with discrimination, has spoken up.

quote:

"Washington's constitution guarantees us 'freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment.' I cannot sell that precious freedom. You are asking me to walk in the way of a well-known betrayer, one who sold something of infinite worth for 30 pieces of silver. That is something I will not do. Your offer reveals that you don't really understand me or what this conflict is all about. It's about freedom, not money. I certainly don't relish the idea of losing my business, my home, and everything else that your lawsuit threatens to take from my family, but my freedom to honor God in doing what I do best is more important." - Florist Barronelle Stutzman, responding to the $2000 settlement offer made last week by Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

Prester John posted:

Not in public at least. In my experience growing up in deep fundie land, I heard these sorts of awful ideas bandied about by adults all the time from a variety of interconnected Conservative church's. I've been thinking of writing up a post on what Gay Marriage legalization means to the true hardcore fundie types. The short version though is certain sects are going to scream endless bloody murder about this and try to make it a campaign issue in the election. They aren't going to shut up about this any quicker than they shut up about abortion.

Also of note, while fundie hate abortion, its not something they perceive as a threat to their own children. Those dirty nigg"unbelievers" get abortions, not good Christians. Gay Marriage however, is a threat to their children. Gay's have to recruit you see, and they recruit more gays by raping children. Furthermore, Gay Marriage is something I heard about as being one of the final signs that God would pour his wrath out upon a country, and they believe in a God that kills indiscriminately. Imagine trying to drag a hyperventilating phobic onto an airplane against their will and you will have some idea of how fundies are going to handle the Supreme Court's decision in June.

Prester John posted:

Now let me specify what I mean by fundamentalist here. These are not Christians in the traditional sense, they are rather first and foremost authoritarians that happen to use Christianity as an excuse. These are literal american Taliban, and if the rule of law were to ever break down in this country, fundies would try and set up their own version of a Caliphate.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

And winner of attempting worst law goes to....California

Sodomite Suppression Act

A Christian activist named Matt McLaughlin has filed a proposed ballot measure with the California Attorney General's office which would ask voters to approve the death penalty for homosexuality.

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“The Islamic court in Wilayet al-Furat decided that a man who has practised sodomy must be thrown off the highest point in the city, and then stoned to death,” [ISIL] said in a statement on a jihadist website.

The Wilayet al-Furat area is along the Syrian-Iraqi border where the Islamic State claimed part of its Caliphate. The jihadists posted pictures of the execution and the men reading the verdict from a piece of paper.

ISIS implements a strict interpretation of Sharia law in areas they control. Homosexuality is a crime and punishable by death under that law. The jihadist group executed two men, 18 and 20, in November for allegedly being gay. One man reportedly had videos on his phone of him “practicing indecent acts with males,” while the other man was killed without any proof of being gay. In a video, one fighter said homosexuals are “pedophiles” and the “worst of all creatures.”

Quorum posted:

I tried to read the order but couldn't make it very far before disgust compelled me to click the little red 'x'. Do they provide any justification for why the federal court system is trumped by state courts, or is it literally nothing but ?

gatesealer posted:

I just can't imagine the energy required to be this much of a dick to people.

Fried Chicken posted:

Preston John did a really good breakdown of this from the fundie POV a few pages back and it pretty much sums it up. The tldr version is to them it does directly harm because it triggers indiscriminate killing from God and that since they can't have children of their own they have to "create" more homosexuals some other way (which they claim is sexual assault of minors). So for them it is about protecting their children from rape and murder.

Prester John posted:

Now let me specify what I mean by fundamentalist here. These are not Christians in the traditional sense, they are rather first and foremost authoritarians that happen to use Christianity as an excuse. These are literal american Taliban, and if the rule of law were to ever break down in this country, fundies would try and set up their own version of a Caliphate.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

A Christian activist named Matt McLaughlin has filed a proposed ballot measure with the California Attorney General's office which would ask voters to approve the death penalty for homosexuality.

Prester John posted:

To the fundamentalist mind legal Gay Marriage is society embracing the most vile, hated act in the entire Bible. Nowhere in the entire fundie worldview is there a sin anywhere near so dangerous as homosexuality. God has destroyed any nation in history that has ever embraced homosexuality, because it is that grievous an insult to His perfect will. By embracing sodomy in such a public way, America is turning its back on God in the most defiant way possible. To the average fundie, this is America signing its own death warrant. Revelations is at hand and the tribulation must begin soon. When I was little I heard over and over that "tolerance of sodomites" would be the very last thing that happened before God's wrath descended down upon the world. It is the final, ultimate, collective defiance of God. Satan's grandest plan to trick us all into forcing God to destroy us.
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So you will be safe from God if everyone else is condemning your actions. What I am trying to say here is, opposition to Gay Marriage will become a matter of not only personal safety, but safety for your family. When Satan's minions call you an ignorant bigot, that means that you are safe from the inevitable punishment God is cooking up for America.
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I really want to emphasize here that fundies will not be fighting this battle to win. They will be fighting this battle in that hopes that by publicly martyring themselves they will be spared God's wrath, for them and their families. they will not be saying things in public to win hearts or minds. They will not organize around the idea of actually winning this fight. They expect to lose. They want to lose. They must lose. For in losing they will assure the safety of their church's, their children, and themselves.

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"I think it’s going to go 5-4 or even 6-3 in favor of same-sex marriage. All of these things are not the cause of our decadence, they’re a reflection of it, If you read the Scriptures, as I do, in both testaments all of these things are forecast in prophesies, in the book of Daniel and what Jesus and Paul said, so I'm not worried about it. I say everything is right on schedule. I’m trying to shore up my own family first and, hopefully, that will be an example to other people. If you look at not only what Jesus said, but Paul the Apostle, about what things would be like in the end times, people will be lovers of lies rather than the truth. They will elevate things that are called abomination in scripture to normality. All of the prophesies up to the final ones have come true. And that’s why I say that everything is right on schedule." - columnist Cal Thomas

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

SCOTUS will argue the consolidated marriage cases for 2.5 hours on April 28th. Transcripts and audio will be posted by 2 pm that day.

Prester John posted:

I thought this was interesting. (And I'm totally not tooting my horn here or anything.)

Morter posted:

Oklahoma House Approves Measure Changing Marriage Licenses

EasyEW posted:

Okies, help me out here. What the hell am I looking at?

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Looks like CA can't stop the kill the gays bill



Now they start petition signatures (365,000)which would lead the person to most likely getting their rear end kicked

http://sanfrancisco.suntimes.com/sf-news/7/74/118554/shoot-the-gays-initiative/

VitalSigns posted:

Most linguists agree that it's best translated the Christian State In San Francisco and LA (CSIL)

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Briefs are coming in and first one we have is from Liberty Counsel. They are going the criminalize gay acts route.

https://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attachments/2015/040315_-_Brief_-_Amicus_-_SCOTUS_marriage.pdf

It is really worth the read also of note, Liberty Counsel is a part of Liberty University where Ted Cruz announced his run for president.

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Over the last 67 years, the calls for change have been heeded and manifested themselves in, inter alia, the decriminalization or diminution of punishment for most sexual offenses, no fault divorce and related changes in family law, removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder, and new protected classes based on sexual conduct. The fundamental societal transformation reached this Court in 2003 when, relying upon Kinsey-inspired changes in law and policy, this Court decriminalized same-sex sodomy in Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003).

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Despite claims that the MPC would lower crime rates by de-criminalizing certain conduct, crime rates have not only increased, but new types of crimes and victims have emerged. Violent crime reports increased 129 percent between 1960 and 2012, and reports of “forcible rape” (victim age 12 or above) have increased 182 percent in the same time period. Children are becoming victims at younger ages and are in turn themselves become perpetrators. Rates of sexually transmitted disease have increased, and new diseases have surfaced.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Holy poo poo at the conclusion

Rhesus Pieces posted:

This poll is purely twisting the knife at this point but screw it, they deserve it.

Blue Star posted:

But hasn't the Religious Right already experienced complete and undeniable defeats like this before? Civil rights, Roe vs Wade, etc.? I know Prestor John said that gay marriage is a bigger deal to them than abortion, but still. Barack Obama won both elections and teaching creationism is illegal,

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In the video, Milrad says: “I'm getting married this summer to someone I really care about.”

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Watch two piles of poo poo talk about gay marriage and Supreme Court

Tony Perkins and Ken Ham (Creation museum, lost a Creation vs Evolution debate with bill bye, building million dollar life size ark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brV1bwVYVzc

Bel_Canto posted:

What the hell is it with conservatives and hideous bow ties? I've got quite a few myself, but nothing that looks that awful.

hangedman1984 posted:

Soooo...that supreme court decision should be coming along before too long right.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted: