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yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT MY FAVORITE JRPG


If the Duck Has a True Rune I Will Literally Flip Your Table: Let's Play Suikoden III



Let's Play Genso Suikoden III!

Hey guys, and welcome to Suikoden III, a good game in a good series of JRPGs.

Why 3?

Well, we've seen the two previous Suikoden games LPed here, as well as 4 and Tactics (and 5 is in the works). However, the previous attempt at 3 stopped pretty early on. This game was also the one that got me into the series, and thus has a special place in my heart.

It also has a bunch of sassy dialogue, and I love me some snark.

Like every main Suikoden game, the cast is a whopping 108 dudes (plus some extra dogs), that vary from awesome and important, to people you pick up on the side of the road somewhere. It also features our very own castle, duels, strategy battles, and parties of six at a time.

It takes place about 15-ish years after the second game, and we'll see a few recurring characters, as well as a few references to the first two games as well. I'll do a bit more backstory explanation once we get this show on the road.

3 handles things a bit differently than what we've seen in earlier games, but I'll explain that in a bit as well.

Rules of this LP.

Pretty much just no spoilers for this game. Anything that takes place earlier (Read: all the other games in the series) are fair game, but PLEASE. If I haven't gotten there yet, don't talk about it.

Also I'll have to ask you to refrain from talking about a certain character from the first two games, who comes back in this one in a very different way. If you've played the game, you know who I'm talking about. If you haven't... I don't know how to be vague about this without giving it away actually. Hm... Just be careful about who you discuss, if you have no idea what I'm talking about.

Main Characters.



Hugo is a boy from the Grasslands, a territory sandwiched between two more powerful nations, and at war with one of them. He is the son of the Karaya chief, and uses a short blade in battle. He's a bit goofy and childish, but he knows how to get things done when he needs to. (He is also awesome, just saying.)



Chris is a knight from Zexen, to the west of the Grasslands. She is captain of the knights, which serve as an independent (yet strangely subordinate, as we'll see) military force for the country. Her father was also a knight, but had gone missing long before this story starts and is presumed dead. She is very serious and noble. (Her story is gonna suck in the beginning, just a fair warning.)



Geddoe is a mercenary working for Harmonia, to the southeast of the Grasslands. He is the leader of the 12th Unit of the Harmonian Southern Frontier Defense Force, which is a fancy name for a hired spy unit, pretty much. He's quiet and mysterious, but in a grizzled, badass way. Seems to always know more than everyone else, his men have sort of just accepted that he won't tell them anything until he thinks it's necessary. While Chris and Hugo are on clearly opposing sides, Geddoe is sort of just doing his own thing for now. (This man is a caster. Trust me. I know he doesn't look it, but he is.)



Thomas is the new lord of Budehuc Castle, which borders Grassland and Zexen. He's very new at this, and has some confidence issues, but he's a good guy and his heart is in the right place.

??? Same for this one.

Geography and Politics

For the ease of me not having to find a map and/or spoil locations, imagine a Venn Diagram. Now, imagine that the big circle on the left is Zexen. The circle on the right is Harmonia. The part where they intersect would be the Grasslands, which is where we'll be spending most of the game. (It's also the biggest, so the hypothetical Venn Diagram isn't to scale.) The Grasslands are sandwiched between two countries that are more advanced than it, and is currently at war with the Zexen Confederacy. The Grasslands have a truce with Harmonia, but all this really means is that Harmonia is watching the world burn from the sidelines.

Completionist Run?

Hell naw. I'll be getting all 108 characters (and dogs), but screw play scripts and medals and stuff. If I come across them, I'll pick them up, but I won't be going out of my way. I'll show off how they work at least once though. I will also be going for the secret ending.

Viewer Input?

There will be some user input, yes. For the most part, however, these will occur later in the game. Mostly, you will be picking party members, as well as some other developmental and dialogue choices. However, like I said, this won't come into play for a little while.

There are three big decisions to be made in this game, and when they come up, I shall leave these up to you guys as well.

I will not, however, be letting you pick chapter order. In order for the game to make the most sense to those who aren't familiar with the game, I'll be deciding the order.

Anything else?

Not that I can think of.

Joining me occasionally on my escapade will be TheAsterite, as well as Zosephine. They'll be commenting on-and-off, so they won't both be here for all the updates.

Without further ado, let's get this show on the road!

Other Suikoden LPs
Suikoden by Thanatos Mazus
Suikoden II by Nephrite
Suikoden IV by vilkacis
Suikoden Tactics by vilkacis
Suikoden V by vilkacis

Chapters:
Opening
Transcending Love - Ai wo Koete
Hugo Chapter 1
1.1 - Why a Duck?
1.2 - Lakeside Village
1.3 - A Noble Maiden Fair
1.4 - Duck in the Big City
1.5 - Mine, Mine, Mine!
1.6 - Run, Freedom, Run!
1.7 - Secret Tunnel
1.8 - The Trees, Like Torches, Blazed With Light
Interlude/Chapter End
Chris Chapter 1
1.1 - Politics and Poker
1.2 - Leapin' Lizards, That's Why I'm So Mad!
Interlude/Dialogue Choice
1.3 - Strategery
1.4 - We Didn't Start the Fire
1.5 - Singing the Same Old Song
Interlude/Runes
Geddoe Chapter 1
1.1 - Waiting for Geddoe
Interlude/Skills
1.2 - Words Speak Louder...
1.3 - A Foul Plot Afoot, But Not My Feet
1.4 - Tag
Fister Roboto - The loving Lotto
1.5 - Castletown
Interlude/Dialogue Choice
1.6 - Errands
1.7 - A Potch For Your Thoughts.
Thomas Chapter 1
1.1 - Crumbly Old House
1.2 - Dropping Eaves
1.3 - Haven't We Already Found You?
1.4 - Brainstorm
1.5 - Errands
1.6 - Subterranean
Chris Chapter 2
2.1 - The Drinking War
2.2 - The Six Knights are Too Much For You
Interlude/Dialogue Choice
2.3 - I Am Not Trying To Flirt With You
2.4 - Gallivanting Away
Hugo Chapter 2
2.1 - You're So Pushy!
2.2 - So Sore From All This Fighting
Interlude/Dialogue Choice
2.3 - Hello Goodbye
Geddoe Chapter 2
2.1 - Information Fishing and Monster Hunting
2.2 - Creepy Crawly
Interlude/Dialogue Choice
2.3 - Cheaters
Hugo Chapter 3
3.1 - Salad
3.2 - Murder Most Fowl
3.3 - My Sons
Interlude/Dialogue Choice
3.4 - You Children Who See the World in Black and White
3.5 - Flame Chump
3.6 - Iroh Part 1
Thomas Chapter 2
2.1 - More Politics Than Your Castle Has Room For!
2.2 - Bude-what now?
2.3 - Thomas' Castle
Chris Chapter 3
3.1 - Duck Hunt
3.2 - Village of Shamans
3.3 - Iroh Part 2
Geddoe Chapter 3
3.1 - Lightning
3.2 - Iroh Part 3
Chapter 4
4.1 - The Flame Champion
4.2 - Fire
- feat. Chris
- feat. Geddoe
4.3 - Harmonia Has No Fear


Suikogaiden Vol. 1
1.1.1 - Them's Some Fancy Digs
1.1.2 - Blue Moon Village
1.1.3 - Night of Farewells


Character Breakdowns
Hugo, Chris, Geddoe
Zexen Knights
Saint Loa Knights
Lizard Clan
Karaya Clan
Thomas & Co.
Team Hugo - Primary


Erk's Adventures
Voiced by Zosephine.
Part 1


Fan Things!

Suikoden: Shut Up and Jam.
The 108 Slams of Destiny await!
Thank you vilkacis!


Geddoe Force!
Thank you Ceraph!


Beards!
Thank you AradoBalanga!


More beards!
Thank you Adnor!


The Beardening is upon us!
Thank you Raitzeno!


There are never enough beards.
Thank you Testekill!


Yeah.
Thank you FeyerbrandX!


vilkacis, you are terrible.


You too, FeyerbrandX.


Et tu, Verant?


Bruceski posted:

I think you've got Geddoe showing a bit too much emotion in that last panel, but otherwise it's pretty nice.

Ceraph posted:

Fixed it.


Fister Roboto posted:



C'mon, you were pretty much asking for it.

Captain Oblivious posted:

Bishounen Goggles.

vilkacis" post="422683026 posted:



Bufuman posted:

Now I'm wondering what happens if you look at Sgt. Joe with the other lens.
Probably one of them "divide by zero" scenarios.

vilkacis" post="422688571 posted:

You can not divide Joe by zero, you fool!

You can only make him sparkle harder.

Captain Bravo posted:

The duck has the True Rune of

sudonim" post="422706437 posted:

The duck has the True Rune

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


The true Flame Champion. Thank you Flytitle!


Yeah, we missed you too, Duke. Thank you inverts!

Card Stories

Medrex posted:

Circle Rune:
Playing this card causes all cards to have no affect and must be returned to the player's hand upon being played. skipping your turn and discarding is forbidden while the circle rune is in effect, thus giving the appearance of action from a distance while maintaining the glorious status-quo.
This card self-activates after five turns in the player's hand.

Rune of Change:
While active this card forces all players to return their hand to their deck, shuffle and draw a new hand at the beginning of their turn. All players must pack up their cards and resume play at a different location every three turns. If this card is active when the circle rune card is played, both cards are removed from play. Every game involving the rune of change must be spoken of afterwards as if it was distant legend.

Bufuman posted:

And that's not even getting into the nasty cards.

Rune of Punishment:
Automatically played when drawn. Remains on the field. Can be activated once per turn. All of your opponent's cards in play and in their hand are discarded. Stab yourself in a different location every time you activate this card. If this card is not activated on any given turn, your opponent can draw cards equal to the number of turns since Rune of Punishment was last activated. If you lose the game or die from blood loss, your opponent must take this card and make it part of their deck.

Elite posted:

Wind of Sleep:
Skip the remainder of your turn.
Skip opponent's turn.
Repeat 3 times.

Blinking Rune:
Allows you to freely reposition your units on the board.
After 5 matches you must give this card away to another player.

Beast Rune:
Lure both player's pets into rampaging across the board.
Accept the results of their carnage.
If neither player has a pet then do nothing.

Brunom1 posted:

Card of Hero: Geddoe.

Once per turn, you can flip this card to have Geddoe relax from fighting - all Heroes on the field, and their players, are forced to relax and are unable to act for the remainder of the turn.

Flavor text: Save the world? Eh...

Bobbin Threadbare" post="417061446 posted:

I'd say it's more a coin flip to whether he chills for a round or else clears the battlefield with lightning.

Elite posted:

Sun Rune
Whilst in play all active characters have their Max LIFE increased by 10 and regenerate 2 LIFE per turn.
When activated : Douse the board in gasoline and throw sparklers at it.
Screaming “WHERE’S YOUR GOD NOW?” is not a requirement, but it is recommended.

Soul Eater Rune
Pro: When activated it allows you to instantly win the game.
Con: You may only activate it if a friend or relative has just died.

Sovereign Rune
Allows you to ignore the effect of other people’s runes.
You may pretend to still be affected by their runes if it amuses you.

Egbert Aethelbald
6 LIFE, 1 attack power
During your opponent’s turn you may verbally assault them / scream with incoherent rage.
Deduct 1 HP from their base every time you make them visibly uncomfortable.

Elenor Silverberg
8 LIFE, 1 attack power.
May look at opponent’s hand. Must be drunk to use this ability.

Lucretia Merces
8 LIFE, 1 attack power
Look at opponent’s hand and force them to explain their strategy to you.

Luca Blight
99 LIFE, 30 attack power.
DON’T EVEN BOTHER.

Jeane
20 LIFE, 5 attack power.
When Jeane is in play both players must remove one article of clothing at the end of their turn.
Use with extreme caution.

Augustine
20 LIFE, 4 attack power
During the opponent’s turn you may throw flowers at them.
Throwing plant pots is technically allowed, but it is considered unsporting.

Gizel Godwin
25 LIFE, 8 attack.
When played you may take a 10 minute recess to set up elaborate Rube Goldberg catapults to fling items at your opponent during their turn. Throwing items yourself is not allowed, it must be done with minimal direct influence.

The Ocean
Introduces a 5 minute waiting period after each cardplay. There is no counter.

Rune Cannon
Target enemy character and flip a coin.
Heads – Target character is destroyed.
Tails – Target character becomes a horrible fishman.

Rune of the Beginning
Tear this card in two and give half of it to a friend.
You are now enemies for life.

Gate Rune
Allows you to use cards from different card games.

Brunom1 posted:

Card of Viki
Once per turn, flip a coin: if it's heads, Viki teleports herself to the opponent's hand; if it's tails, flip it again: heads teleports all of monsters on the field to the graveyard and, if it's tails, the players' decks are teleported and exchanged with one another.

Verant posted:

How about this?

Krin
Effect: Upon playing this card, your opponent must give you their wallet. If you win the game, you must give them your wallet.

Dragon Rune:
Effect: This card must be kept in your hand at all times. If it is ever discarded, discard your entire deck because all the dragons are now dead and it was your fault, you monster.

Bufuman posted:

True Lightning Rune
Effect: Hahahahahaha. Why is your opponent still playing?

Elite posted:

Blacksmithing
Put banknotes through a paper shredder to earn an attack bonus for all your active characters according to how much money was sacrificed.
$1 = +1 attack
$27 =+5 attack
$180 = +10 attack
$600 = +15 attack

Medrex" post="417107166 posted:

Note: In nations where destruction of legal tender is a felony, you may instead have this money sent to Konami Headquarters. Other players are permitted to declare your use of this card null if you cannot produce a valid receipt.


True Lightning Rune
During your opponent’s turn you may shoot them with a tazer.
If they are incapacitated then declare immediate victory, otherwise continue playing.


True Fire Rune
Cease play. Relocate to the edge of an active volcano, resume play.


True Water Rune
During your opponent’s turn you may shoot them with a supersoaker or spray them with a hose.
Soggy cards have diminished effects, ruined cards cannot be played.


True Wind Rune
Cease play. Relocate to a wind tunnel, resume play.
You are allowed to retrieve stray cards, your opponent is not.


True Earth Rune
During your opponent’s turn you may drench them in fast setting liquid concrete.

Calax posted:

I'd have just said "Every turn flip the table, every card you pick up is now yours"

vilkacis posted:

You may only flip tables if the Rune is attached to a duck.

Raitzeno posted:

Sergeant Joe
Remove a True Rune from play, then flip the table. At the end of your next turn, shuffle all cards into their owners' decks and restart the game. Take a video of the new game and record commentary over it.

Brunom1 posted:

True Salt Rune
This card's player is allowed to bury any card on the field under a pile of salt; the buried card is unable to be used until its owner buys enough salt to reduce the flood of the market.

The salt-buyer is then able to pick the True Salt Rune card and start the cycle anew.

Extra Doodles of Mine

Angry Tea.


Set of requests I took to get to a new page.


Magical FBI Agent Geddoe.


Every castle needs Ninja Bodyguards!



: "I'm going to kill him now. Objections?"
: "None!"




"I decided to deliver my battle report through the medium of interpretive stabbing."
"I knew it was risky sharpening my letter opener to 15."
"Don't you people EVER knock?"
"Well I'm pretty certain they were going to betray me at some point, so this is really just saving time."
"Excuse me, chris d'etat in progress here."
"This isn't what it looks like." "..." "Okay this is exactly what it looks like."
"I could have spared them, but...eh..."
"I have successfully delivered the public opinion poll, sir."
"It's probably best you went home early. I fear it's going to be one of THOSE days".


Sniffles are serious business for delicate elfy-types.


Silly hats.



Sasarai is pretty laid-back.


What a handsome tree!


Help.


Geddoe smells like cats, apparently.


Fire.


Cry, Albert.

yokaiy fucked around with this message at Jul 16, 2014 around 15:35

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yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT MY FAVORITE JRPG


Available Character List!

This will contain some spoilers! If you haven't been paying attention to the LP updates, don't read these yet! Instead, head to the first post and read from there.



Team Hugo posted:


Hugo
Level 24.
He's fast, he can pack a punch, and he's one of our three main characters. He's well suited to doing a lot of damage at once, and his magic is average.
Currently has a Wind Rune.



Sgt. Joe
Level 23.
He's a duck, and sort of like a father figure to Hugo. Hits hard and pretty good at healing as well. He's also a sassy rear end in a top hat.
Currently has a Water Rune.



Fubar
Level 24.
Hugo's pet griffon. Can be paired with Hugo. High attack, can fly around lines. He can't equip anything except Medicines and the like.
Currently has a Shining Wind Rune.



Lulu
Lulu is dead.



Team Chris posted:


Chris
Level 27.
Strong, with pretty good defense, and a horse. She's the second of our main characters, and well suited to hitting things and not taking much damage when things hit her. She's not that great with magic, though.
Currently has a Phoenix Rune.



Salome
Level 22.
The Knights' tactician and adviser. He knows his way around battles, and hits pretty hard, but can heal pretty well also. More mature than the other Knights.
Currently has a Water Rune.



Borus
Level 27.
About the same as Chris, but a little stronger. He's hot-headed and impulsive, and even a bit childish about things. In love with Chris.
Currently has a Sword of Rage Rune.



Roland
Level 19.
An archer and an elf, Roland is a bit if a prick to anyone not part of the Chris Posse. He can hit about as hard as Chris and Borus, but isn't as sturdy. In love with Chris.
Currently has a Great Hawk Rune.



Louis
Support.
Attendant to Chris and the Six Knights, he prefers chores and busywork to battle, but is very serious in his duties of taking care of the Knights. He's learning how to be a Knight himself, as well.
E Healing, D Cooking.



Team Geddoe posted:


Geddoe
Level 32.
Leader of a group of Harmonian spies, he's a bit lethargic and quiet, but knows how to get things done when they need doing. Knows everyone everywhere.
Currently has a Lightning Rune.


:
Ace
Level 31.
In charge of lighting fires under peoples butts and doing all the paperwork, Ace is the unappreciated bureaucratic member of the bunch. Talks a lot and wears his heart on his sleeve. Likes to bother Joker.
Currently has a Double Tusk Rune.



Joker
Level 31.
In charge of lighting fires on enemies and punching things to death, Joker is the heavy drinker of the group, and likes to get absolutely wasted before noon, goof off, and pick fights, often with Ace.
Currently has an Isshin Rune and a Fire Rune.



Queen
Level 31.
The only female of the 12th Unit, Queen's job is to make sure the boys don't get too out of hand, and to slash at things that need cutting. Also likes to drink.
Currently has a Ripple Rune and a Wind Rune.



Jacques
Level 31.
Jacques is the quiet archer of the group. His words are scarce but often important. He's a man of simple pleasures, such as naps and dogs. His parental figures are awful influences.
Currently has a Boronda Hawk Rune.



Aila
Level 31.
A spunky Karayan girl the unit picked up during the Karaya Village calamity. She travels with them in hopes of finding those responsible for burning down her village, but fits in pretty well among them.
Currently has a Shield Rune and a Earth Rune.



Peggi
Support.
Peggi is a loud and very excited Lizard blacksmith. He has moved to Budehuc to be their blacksmith at Geddoe's request.
He doesn't actually have any support skills.



Jeane
Support.
A sexy Rune Sage who is probably some sort of elder god or something. She has opened up a Rune shop in Budehuc at Geddoe's request.
E Healing.
A Rune Sage.



Dominic
Support.
A stubborn old man who makes and sells armor. He'll only sell you things for good prices if he likes you. He has opened up an armor shop in Budehuc at Geddoe's request.
He doesn't actually have any support skills.



Ernie
Support.
Ernie is mild-mannered but haughty, and only agreed to go to Budehuc after quizzing Geddoe on a bunch of random trivia.
B+ Tutor.



Scott

Waurenhyte
Support.
Scott and his bird Waurenhyte are traders. Very worldly. Probably a pirate. He's nice enough, though. He has opened up a trade shop in Budehuc at Geddoe's request.
E Discount.



Mike
Support.
A shady guy who is nice on the outside but a bit two-faced. Likes to gamble. Has taken his gambling ring to Budehuc at Geddoe's request.
C Rune Sage.
C Trade-In.



Koroku
Level ?.
A puppy. Geddoe found him on the side of the road and took him to Budehuc. He now helps Cecile guard the castle.
Currently has no runes.



Team Thomas posted:


Thomas
Level 19.
A young lad just recently appointed as lord of Budehuc Castle, he has self-confidence issues, but is a good kid. A bit on the timid side, but he's bright and willing to prove himself to his new staff.
Currently has no Runes.



Cecile
Level 19.
The enthusiastic Captain of the Guards at Budehuc, as well as the only guard at Budehuc. She is cheery and supportive, and vowed to protect the castle from all threats.
Currently has the War Horse Rune.



Sebastian
Support.
An excitable butler and inn keeper at Budehuc, he makes it his job to take on too many jobs and stress about every single one. Likes to be the only one stressed, though, and keeps things from others until it's a real problem so they don't worry. Needs to take a vacation.
E Potch Finder.



Martha
Support.
The pushy old woman who runs the lottery stand at Budehuc. She's very stubborn, and probably crazy. A wonderful kind of crazy, but still. Knows a lot of history.
B Discount.



Juan
Level 19.
The laziest Bujutsu Teacher in existence, he makes it his job to goof off and nap as often as possible. Likes to sleep in the grass. Tends to not put much faith in others. He's willing to do his share of the work if it directly affects him, though.
Currently has a Waking Rune.



Eike
Support.
A quiet and sort of terrifying librarian at the castle. He doesn't seem to like people as much as he likes his books, and disappears frequently.
C Appraisal.



Muto
Support.
Muto is a sort of dumb but very peppy Kobold who manages the warehouse at the castle. He's very friendly, but also very forgetful. Should he really be in charge of all our items??
D Appraisal.



Piccolo
Level 18.
An old fortune-teller who's set up a tent on the castle grounds. He's pretty jolly, but pretty weird. Claims to be a great wizard.
Currently has a Lightning Rune and a Mallet Rune.



Mio
Support.
A kind-hearted nurse working with Dr. Tuta. She has taken up residence in Budehuc to care for whoever might get injured.
B+ Healing.
E Appraisal.



Kathy
Support.
A young woman who is good with horses but bad with math. She's a bit out-of-touch with other people, but she's nice enough. Looks after the stables at Budehuc, and allows people to race her horses.
E Trade-In.



Augustine
Level 17.
One of the best people. Augustine is a beauty-obsessed narcissist who loves flowers and things that are gentlemanly. Sparkles.
Currently has a Red Rose Rune.



Gordon
Support.
A suave and sort of creepy shop owner, he moved to Budehuc when he learned that Augustine was there. Loves everything having to do with gentlemen.
C Discount.
D Trade-In.



Kenji
Level 19.
Kenji is an athletic instructor?? He moved to Budehuc because everyone was too out-of-shape for him. He can apparently kill things with backflips.
Currently has a Full Moon Rune.



Watari
Level 21.
A ninja! He's stoic and quiet, but he's a ninja so that's not surprising. He was bought as a castle bouncer or something, but I think Thomas really just wanted to have a cool ninja friend.
Currently has a Haziness Rune.



Ayame
Level 21.
Another ninja! She has some history with Watari, and was sent to kill him. The two have agreed to put aside their differences and help out Thomas for the time being.
Currently has a Shrike Rune.



Twaikin
Level ?.
A dwarf who got kicked out of the Great Hollow for digging too many holes. Pretty handy, and a pretty nice guy. Shorter than Thomas, and that is impressive.
Currently has a Warrior Rune.



Shizu
Support.
Shizu was hired to repair the elevator in Budehuc Castle, and decided to stick around afterwards to help maintain it. A very polite and soft-spoken woman.
She doesn't actually have any support skills.

yokaiy fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2013 around 04:04

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT MY FAVORITE JRPG


Transcending Love - The Opening Song
First off, you should watch this video of the opening from someone on youtube.



Hello again, and welcome to Suikoden III!



It attempts to follow up a while after the end of Sui2, and is widely regarded as not nearly as good.

Also dude, what are you riding, that is not a horse.



It was also the first 3D modeled game in the series, and they did a pretty good job with it.

Here, we have a screaming child.



And a screaming duck.

Wait.

What?



It tells the story in a sort of strange way, in that it follows a few main characters instead of one, and tells parts of the stories multiple times, but from different perspective. While sort of repetitive, I find it pretty interesting. And the overlap isn't that bad, either.

Spoiler: this is one of our main characters screaming.



In addition to duck kobolds, there are also lizard kobolds. There are normal dog kobolds too, though.



Here we have proof that that one kid from earlier is important, as well as a lady in a fancy hat.





This sure is a lady with white hair.



I don't really know what is going on with the text during this opening, but anyone familiar with the series should at least know that eternal life is a thing that happens to people who get plot lasers.



Check out these blurry badasses.



Well, that'll make this VERY hard to LP, won't it.



This story will have dudes! And horses! And dudes on horses!

You can tell who the big players are here because helmets are for unimportant losers.





And nice scenery!



Lady, why is your hair a snail?



There will be explosions!



And bugs!

Slightly visually out of place 3D bugs!



And lots of yelling, if this opening movie is anything to go by.



And I'm running out of things to say about this opening.



Wow, that is quite a jump!







Guys in masks are never important, right? That is one creepy mask.

Dude looks kind of like a weird chicken-dragon.







Charizard, what are you doing here?





This sure looks like a revolutionary.



Fire is a common theme in the opening. It's pretty important in the game, too.





And the opening ends with this guy again.

So who are the main characters again? Did we just see all 108 people go by??

Nah.



But enough of that, let's start actually playing this game!



Before the game starts, we're prompted to name the Flame Champion! Unlike people we get to name in the other Suikoden games, however, he doesn't have a canon name. This is the first big decision you guys get to vote on.

For the sake of getting this started, I'll be calling him Batman.



This is the character select screen. Those three flames are our three main characters, and we get to play as all three of them. Each of these characters have three chapters. The other three portions of this menu will gain flames as we go, opening more playable characters. One of them has two chapters, one of them has one chapter, and the last is really more of an entertaining mini-game than anything, I can hardly count it as a chapter. Additionally, characters have a little intro before their first chapter. I'll just be integrating that into their first chapters.

We'll start with Hugo.

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

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Hugo Chapter 1 - Why a Duck?



Welcome to the Grasslands.



Home of the, uh... grasslands.





That isn't a horse you weirdo...

That IS, however, Hugo, our first main character of the game.



Running up behind him are Fubar, his pet griffon, and Sgt. Joe, the duck.



And that is their village, Karaya. Well, Hugo and Fubar's village. Sgt. Joe is from Duck Village, the aptly named village of ducks. We'll go there later.




Oh... I guess it IS a horse.

: "You know a better way to get their attention? With their help, I'll be the best rider in the village."

: "Like you need their help! Ha! You're already the best rider I know."

: "Spirits? Get real! My Duck Clan doesn't believe in that nonsense!"

: "Open your mind, Sergeant. There's gotta be more to the plains than meets the eye. If not spirits, then other hidden wonders..."

: "If you waste your time wondering, you won't be alert and ready for the important things in life, like being a good solider!"



: "That's the spirit! Fear is our worst enemy. Right, Fubar?"

: "Kueeeee!"

: "Hey, hey, HEY! Buckle your beak, you insubordinate griffon!"

It's noted that Fubar is sort of a jerk to everyone that isn't Hugo, but this is one of the few examples we get to see in-game. It's more evident in the manga adaptation.



: "Heh heh. Cut it out, you two. I'm starving. Let's get some food."

: "Splendid! Karayan meals are always a pleasure. Especially in the home of the Karaya Clan Chief."

: "Kuuee!"

: "You know where to get yours, Fubar. Go ahead."

: "Kuuueeeee!"




This is Hugo's best friend, Lulu. He has a pretty neat mohawk, and a dorky portrait.

: "Well, well. Look who's here. So, you're dining with us, eh, Lulu?"

: "Where is everybody. Isn't there a host to show us to the table?"

: "Huh?"

: "Never-ending appetite, eh, Sergeant?"



And this is, obviously, Hugo's mother. She is our first recurring character in the game, as she made some appearances in Suikoden II, where she tried to assassinate the main character.



: "Hey! I was here first!"

Immediately, Joe rushes out the door, Lulu hot on his trail.

: "Hold on! Wait for me!"

Hugo turns to join them, but is stopped by Lucia.



: "Hugo, come see me when you're done."

: "Why? What's wrong?"

: "Why don't you eat first?"

: "Um, OK. Whatever you say."




: "Ahh. Now that's what I call full! If I ate any more, I'd explode."

: "Somehow I think you'd still find a way to fit more in."

: "Hehehe."

: "I noticed Lucia wanted a word with you. Is something bothering her?"

: "I don't know. I haven't talked to her yet. I should do that now, I guess."

: "She'll probably give you guff for spending so much time away from home."




: "Quack, quack, quack. Don't worry, nobody's calling you a mama's boy. Just go talk to her already."

: "While we were eating, I saw Lucia heading towards my house."




Before we're given control over Hugo, the game brings up the order menu. Suikoden games have a tradition of having 6 characters per party, arranged by front and back. As you can see, Sui3 splits it up a bit further by dividing everyone into pairs. Characters in front will sometimes jump to protect their backline buddy, and arranging them in a certain way can yield unique conditions. For example, pairing Hugo and Fubar will result in Hugo riding Fubar. I switch Fubar and Joe, so we'll see that in action when we get into our first battle.



Here's the main menu. The sections at the top are items, runes, skills, equiptment, status, formation, and general options.



Items, as you could guess, lets you arrange party items, as well as use them. Each character can hold a certain amount of things in addition to what they have equipped. Party items are where things will be filtered by default. We won't be getting any event items until way later. Items also lets us see our stats, for some reason.



Runes are the magic of the Suikoden games. You attach them to a character, and they can then use that magic. However, rune use is limited. The green boxes next to their portraits show how many times they can use spells from different levels. Hugo can use a first level spell 3 times, and a second level spell once, for example. Once you've used up your spells, you'll need to stay at an inn to recover. Hugo has a Wind rune, Fubar a Shining Wind, Joe a Water, and Lulu a Sword of Cyclone. This makes Joe the most useful to us, since he can heal. We'll see what runes can do once we get in a battle.

Runes may get attached to either of your hands, or to your head. However, having a rune on your head is reserved for really good magical characters, and unlocks late or not at all for much of our cast.



Skills are important. They effect how good a character is at doing things. Right now, for example, all of our dudes are pretty lovely. Each time you defeat a monster or boss, the characters who participated (and didn't die in the process) get skill points they can use towards their skills. Different characters have different affinities for the different skills, so a skill they're better with will cost less points than something they've got less potential in.

Equipment is pretty self explanatory, and I forgot to get a cap of it. Basically, it's what your jerks are wearing. Unlike weapons, you will need to buy new armor as the game goes on. I am really bad at remembering to do this.

I haven't seen it make much difference. Just put on the loot you find if it's better than what your party already has.

You've seen how formation works, and general settings aren't really important.

With that out of the way, let's take a look around and talk to people.







: "I've always liked cooking, but it's best when you have somebody to cook for."

Her husband is slightly off-screen.



: "Hey, Hugo! You know, it's great to have a wife who cooks. Man, I'm really happy I married her."



: "My son married a really nice girl. So that's a load off of my shoulders."

: "I found this on the ground right there. I'll give it to you if you want it."



Of course, now that we have it we won't ever get poisoned.



Spoiler: she is.




: "The artisans are excellent. I am glad I came here all the way from Chisha."

Chisha, by the way, is one of the clans in the Grasslands. We won't be going there for a little while, though.



Speaking of Aila, here she is. Judging from her portrait and an offhand NPC speech about her, she'll be important.

: "Hey, Hugo. You taking good care of your sword? Bring it in anytime you want me to fix it."



Like the other Suikoden games, you don't ever buy new weapons in this game. Instead, you sharpen your weapons to make them stronger. Some characters, like Fubar, do not have weapons though. Instead, they have a strength advantage over those that have weapons. There are very few of those, however.

Also like the other Suikoden games, most of your money will go here. However, since we have precious little money, I won't be upgrading anyones weapon quite yet.



:: "We have to remain armed at all times. You never know when the war will start again."



: "Oh, this urn is nice! Look at the way it curves here..."

Sometimes, you'll get urns and other antiques for defeating enemies. They can be taken to an Appraiser to find out what they are worth. Usually, they'll be worth nothing, but if you get a good one then they're worth a good amount of potch.

: "Please take a look around."



Your typical item shop. You can buy things, sell things, or peruse the rarity section, where they will occasionally have hard to find stuff for sale. For now, we'll leave it alone.



: "You take care. The meadows and woods are full of danger. If you see anything bad, run as fast as you can."

We've already talked to the little girl in the back, so let's keep walking.







Oops, we triggered a cutscene! Lulu's house is directly in the middle of the village, so it's impossible to cover all of Karaya before moving on.

: "Still working on that armor, Jimba?"

: "Greetings, Hugo! I have to say, this armor's been through quite a lot. Harsh elements and all. It needs proper care."

: "You've never mentioned how you got this Zexen armor in the first place."

Zexen, you may recall from my geography lesson in the OP, is the country currently at war with the Grasslands. There's a lot of bad blood between the two nations.



The way he says it makes it sound like he killed the previous owner. Still, he seems very attached to it.

: "Give it up, Hugo. He won't even tell me, his own brother! All he ever says is that it's from a soldier he knew long ago."

In that case, maybe he got it from a friend. Though that's probably a stranger explanation.

: "I speak the truth, Lulu. And when you're old enough to understand everything, I'll explain more of the story."

: "Oh, fox dung! Just when am I supposed to be old enough to understand?"

When you stop saying things like "fox dung" and start using big-boy curse words.

: "When you realize how not grown-up you are now. Quack!"



Nobody ever asks Joe.

: "Ok, you don't have to tell us. But if you're trying to protect it from the elements, why do you keep it outdoors?"

: "Our mother can't stand the smell of iron. It reminds her of a cruel past."

: "Makes sense I guess."

: "Hugo, don't look that way. Everyone knows what great warriors my older brothers were. My brother Jimba is no less worthy."

His other two brothers are dead, if you couldn't tell from that pretty obvious nod.



And this is Lulu and Jimba's mother, Luce. A big woman with a big heart.

: "Hah! You say that every time you see him. Obviously, he has more important matters to think about than food."

I don't know, Jimba. I think food is pretty important. Especially for a growing boy like Hugo.



: "Well, Hugo. Are you ready for our talk now?"

A nice family talk, in front of half the village. Whatever works.

: "Sure, mother, What's this all about?"

: "I know you're aware of the truce negotiations with Zexen. The next step is for you to deliver an official message to Vinay del Zexay. The trip may take about a week."

Vinay del Zexay being the capital of Zexen. There is no capital of the Grasslands, in case you were wondering.

: "The Zexen Capital?"

: "Yes. You must deliver the message directly to the head of the Zexen Council."

: "The Zexen capital is nothing like Grassland. The streets and the walls are made of stone. When your duties are complete, see what you can of the city before returning."

: "Official message?"

: "It is for the early negotiations toward a peace agreement. The Zexen Council has been informed a messenger will come."

Negotiations for negotiations for peace. How long-winded. This much be such a pain for the Grasslanders, who aren't used to political bullshit.

: "You want ME to go?"

: "You are the son of a Grassland Clan Chief. If not you, then who?"

While the Grasslands have no real leading power, the Karaya clan is probably the most well-respected. Don't think that they'll be the only ones sending a messenger, though.

: "Zexen must see Grassland as a political equal, so sending a clan chief is unacceptable. By birth, you are the best choice for a trusted official messenger. Can I count on you?"

: "Um..."

: "You have yet to see the world beyond Grassland. The Karayan land we stand upon now is blessed. But there are other places you must see for yourself-- Zexen to the west, Dunan to the east, Harmonia to the north."

Actually, we won't be seeing Dunan, and what we will be seeing of Harmonia will be to the east.

: "I'm up to it."

: "The spirits shall travel at your side."

: "Good. I'm proud of you. Have a safe and successful journey."



He looks so smug here.

: "I wanna go too! Can I please, mother?"

: "Spirits, no! Hugo is going as a respected representative of Karaya. How do YOU fit in?"

Hahaha.

: "Just FINE, thank you! Even when Hugo's busy, I'll still have Fubar and Sgt. Joe around to keep me safe."

Oh Lulu, you are such a brat.

: "They're not playing around, my child. This is a serious journey. Only if you promise to stay out of trouble..."

: "Yes, oh yes! Is it okay with you, Hugo? Can I go? Can I?"

: "Well... if the Sergeant and Fubar are with me, there shouldn't be a problem."

Joe and Fubar must be some hot poo poo, considering all this glowing praise.

: "I promise you won't regret this, Hugo. I promise, I promise!"

I'm not sure how much younger Lulu is than Hugo in years, but it's pretty obvious that he's less mature as well. Not that Hugo is the epitome of maturity!

: "Indeed, let us pray for no regrets."

Wait, didn't he just say his clan isn't into that spirit stuff?

: "I guess you've made up your minds, then. I hate to see you go, Lulu. But I can't stop you."

Luce, you're like twice his girth. Just hold him down if you don't want him to go.

: "Hugo, you should start getting ready. You leave first thing tomorrow morning."



: "One other thing. Hugo, Lulu-- learn well what a Zexen looks like. Not every helmet seen from afar is being worn on a Zexen head."

Good advice, considering that Grassland is the only nation that doesn't use armor.

: "Got it."

: "Sergeant, thank you in advance for all your assistance."

: "Uh, no problem. Any time."



With that, we can officially start the plot. However, we've got a few more people to talk to before we go.


: "You may encounter monstrous enemies in the woods. If you do, just run! You'll never beat them."

In case you feel like talking to Jimba again, he has some pretty practical advice.

Pfft, please.  I'm level 12 already!  I can handle it.

That is a huge lie get out of here.



: "It's great to have visitors. You learn so much from them."

A nearby duck (not in this picture) has something better for us.

: "Oh, hey, need any medicine? It didn't fit in my bag. Do you want it?"






: "Watch out for yourself, OK? When you get back, be sure to tell me all about Vinay del Zexay."



: "Hugo, hurry up and get your stuff ready for tomorrow."

: "I know it's a lot to ask, Hugo, but do take good care of Lulu. If he whines, there's no need to be nice to him."

Pfft.




The lottery is the easiest way to make money in this game. However, it's the most annoying as well.

: "Hugo, are you practicing properly? If you need somebody to practice with, come see me anytime."



Bujutsu teachers help you up your skills. Which is good, because everyone starts off really crappy. There's a separate teacher for magic, though, and there isn't one in Karaya.

: "It feels wonderful here. I must give thanks to the spirits of the wind and the earth... I've had enough of the stench of conflict."

Says the old lady in the back, if you were wondering.




: "Yes. A small pub. All I'll be able to offer you now is juice, but come visit after I open."

: "Oh, I definitely will!"

Oh my gosh he is so excited at the prospect of juice it is adorable.

Or it could be that Anna's a hottie and Hugo is about 15.  Not to burst your bubble or anything.



:: "What does 'ironhead' mean?"




: "I really want to be able to ride them, too."



: "Alright, everybody! We're not going to get anything ready for tomorrow by just standing here!"

If you try to leave the village, Joe stops you. In order to actually progress, we head back to Hugo's house.



: "Got a problem? Don't you think you'd better start preparing for the trip now?"

: "I suppose so."

: "I can't wait to get started. See you tomorrow, fellow travelers!"

And Lulu rushes outside.

: "Don't oversleep or we'll leave without you! Must make sure I pack everything. What do you think, Hugo? Are 10 different outfits enough?"

Considering you don't wear pants, that's much lighter travel than one would think.




: "Hey, what's everyone doing here? We'll return in short course."

: "We'll certainly pray for your quick return, and protection along the way."

: "Lulu, aren't you ready yet!"



Muahaha, the necessity of your pants will be your downfall!

: "Better safe than sorry. Did you pack your medicine too?"



: "Yes, yes! You keep acting like we're going to get hurt or something."

Famous last words?

: "Hmph! Well, how do we know what a Zexen will do? They may look friendlier than they are. Who knows?"

I wasn't lying about the bad blood. We'll see more once we get to Zexen, they're even bigger jerks about race.

: "Yes, yes. I'll watch out. No wandering on my own. No strange food or drink. Anything else?"

Don't eat the yellow snow.

: "Don't even ask!"

: "Hugo, your experience of the world beyond Grassland is not as important to me as your safe return."



Aww.

: "May my Hugo walk with the divine protection of the earth and wind spirits."

: "I'll be fine!"

: "Don't be embarrassed! To be loved by one's family is nothing to be ashamed of."

: "I've never seen Hugo look this way before."

: "You have the same look too!"



: "May my Lulu walk with the divine protection of the earth and wind spirits."

: "Spirits... help... me... now..."

Hahahahahahahaha.

: "Kuuee!"



And that looks like a good place to stop.

Next time: combat! Ironheads! Racism!

But first, name this guy!

We named him Batman to get the ball rolling, but we'll go back and make it whatever you choose.

Except not "Dongs." We do not approve of the use of Dongs as a name.



Bold your suggestions and votes.

yokaiy fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2013 around 17:38

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

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Open for business now! Sorry about the delay, LPix decided to break most of the pictures in the update. But only the Chapter 1 update... Thanks for standing by while I re-uploaded pretty much every picture!

And if anything breaks in the future, let me know and I'll fix it again.

e:

yokaiy fucked around with this message at Jan 3, 2013 around 03:28

vilkacis
Feb 16, 2011



It is a little known fact that Tir in the original Suikoden was named after the Flame Champion.

Also, Joe is the best duck.

vilkacis fucked around with this message at Jan 3, 2013 around 03:48

djw175
Apr 23, 2012

You're pretty good, Snivy.


So as someone who doesn't know about Suikoden very much, who or what is this flame champion? Did I miss an explanation?

Zosephine
Dec 31, 2012

Even my tail feathers concur.


djw175 posted:

So as someone who doesn't know about Suikoden very much, who or what is this flame champion? Did I miss an explanation?

You have missed absolutely nothing. The Flame Champion will be explained later; we just had to name him. He's the guy in red with the feathers on his head in the opening.

Also, yes I am that Zosephine up there, talking in underlined text.

djw175
Apr 23, 2012

You're pretty good, Snivy.


Let's name him Jerry, then. No particular reason. I just like the name.

dancingbears
May 10, 2011


yokaiy posted:

Before the game starts, we're prompted to name the Flame Champion! Unlike people we get to name in the other Suikoden games, however, he doesn't have a canon name.

Lies! None of the Suikoden protagonists have canon names, just commonly accepted names. Most of them are taken from their associated manga, made after the fact. The protagonist from 5 even has two commonly accepted names - one from the manga, and one from a save on a special memory card released around when the game shipped.

Since he's probably a heathen tribal, and since Two Dogs loving won't fit, let's call the FC One Wing.

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

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dancingbears posted:

Lies! None of the Suikoden protagonists have canon names, just commonly accepted names. Most of them are taken from their associated manga, made after the fact. The protagonist from 5 even has two commonly accepted names - one from the manga, and one from a save on a special memory card released around when the game shipped.

Since he's probably a heathen tribal, and since Two Dogs loving won't fit, let's call the FC One Wing.

Hugo has a canon name.

That is a fair point, though. I guess I should have said that he doesn't even have a commonly accepted name.

Also your first suggestion made me laugh more than it had any right to and I have NO idea why.

heeheex2
Sep 5, 2012

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Ariel because it's a cool name.

dancingbears
May 10, 2011


yokaiy posted:

Also your first suggestion made me laugh more than it had any right to and I have NO idea why.

quote:

On a rainy day, an little Indian from a tribe goes to his chief and asks, "Chief, how do you name all the people of our tribe?"

The Chief replies,"Oh, it quite easy. When baby born, I look first thing I see moving in wilderness, and name baby just that."

"How so?" asks the Indian.

"Well," replies the Chief, "if I see coyote running in field, I name baby Running Coyote, if I see bull sit, I name baby Sitting Bull."

"Oh, I see now" says the Indian.

Then the Chief turns to the Indian and says, "Well, why do you ask, Two Dogs loving?"

UmbreonMessiah
Nov 1, 2011

Ooooh~ Shiny!


I'm just a sucker for naming the Flame Champion Athran. I use that name for a lot of things, but it really seems to fit the Flame Champion, if you ask me.

Eponymous
Feb 4, 2008

Maybe I just want to be happy, huh?! Maybe I want my life to not be a trainwreck for five GOD DAMN minutes?!

You sold me, name him Two Dogs.

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

It is the clearest mantra,
the highest mantra,
the mantra that removes all suffering.

This is truth that cannot be doubted.
Say it so:

Gone,
gone,
gone over,
gone fully over.
Awakened!
So be it!


Yay a competent, effort based LP of this game.

I'm so excited.

Phelim
Mar 18, 2009


I usually name him Brand (because I like the name, but also because it could derive from firebrand).

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Lowtax


This game is dull as watching grass grow, but I'm looking forward to the actual interesting story bits.

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

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dancingbears posted:

Best story here.

Dammit, I knew exactly where that was going and STILL laughed!

Zyla posted:

Yay a competent, effort based LP of this game.

I'm so excited.

Hope I don't dissappoint.

Azure_Horizon posted:

This game is dull as watching grass grow, but I'm looking forward to the actual interesting story bits.

It definitely has it's boring moments, yeah. I don't think it's too bad though.


Also, guys, voting doesn't work if you all vote on different things, haha. Oh well, I'll just have to tiebreak if it comes to that.

Voting will end around 8PM EST tomorrow, by the way.

Zyla
Jan 30, 2009

It is the clearest mantra,
the highest mantra,
the mantra that removes all suffering.

This is truth that cannot be doubted.
Say it so:

Gone,
gone,
gone over,
gone fully over.
Awakened!
So be it!


Azure_Horizon posted:

This game is dull as watching grass grow, but I'm looking forward to the actual interesting story bits.

Yeah it's kinda this. I had to put it down because oy things get really muddled in the middle. I'm looking forward to someone actually getting through this because it does some amazing things that make it perfect for an LP over actually playing it

Lord Ephraim
Feb 22, 2008

That's one way to get ahead in life, but nothing beats an axe to the face.

I'm in the extreme minority that likes Suikoden III the best. Sure it has its boring moments, but so does every single game in the series.

Only this time you get ducks with axes

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

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Lord Ephraim posted:

I'm in the extreme minority that likes Suikoden III the best. Sure it has its boring moments, but so does every single game in the series.

Only this time you get ducks with axes

Murder ducks, man. Joe pretty much never leaves my party because he's a huge . Final boss? DUCK IT.

Also, I think III is my favorite as well, though it's pretty close between II and III.

Thanatos Mazus
May 30, 2007
Obscure

I never actually finished this game in the series, I'm looking forward to reading this LP.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012


All hail FireLord FlameChampion Zuko

UmbreonMessiah
Nov 1, 2011

Ooooh~ Shiny!


Lord Ephraim posted:

I'm in the extreme minority that likes Suikoden III the best. Sure it has its boring moments, but so does every single game in the series.

Only this time you get ducks with axes

This and so many other reasons is why III is my favorite. Playing III made me really interested and go back to try and play I and II....but I never got very far. Guess they just didn't hold my interest the way III did, who knows?

CVE
Jan 27, 2012


The Flame Champion clearly is the man they call Jayne

Looking forward to a complete LP of this one. The game was never released in Europe and even though I own a NTSC copy I never had a modded PS2 to play it on and my PC is to weak for PS2 emulation.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012


UmbreonMessiah posted:

This and so many other reasons is why III is my favorite. Playing III made me really interested and go back to try and play I and II....but I never got very far. Guess they just didn't hold my interest the way III did, who knows?

It's the opposite for me. I loved 1 and 2, heck even 4. I'm guessing yokaiy's 4th or 5th update is where I stopped playing.

I've heard great things about the story and characters, but the gameplay just didn't engage me.

djw175
Apr 23, 2012

You're pretty good, Snivy.


We're never going to have a consensus on this one are we? In the interest of getting this thing working, I change my vote from Jerry to Brand.

Lotish
Dec 10, 2008

I pick up my Devil Axe...
...and DEVIL!


FeyerbrandX posted:

All hail FireLord FlameChampion Zuko

Related, but name him Iroh.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.



That's the second most out-of-place clan of duck-people I've ever seen in a game.

Name the Flame Champion Humakt. It is time to make a death today.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Lowtax


Zyla posted:

Yeah it's kinda this. I had to put it down because oy things get really muddled in the middle. I'm looking forward to someone actually getting through this because it does some amazing things that make it perfect for an LP over actually playing it

It's a lot of things, but yeah, the middle part of III is just dull as loving dirt. It's more dull than V and parts of II, which is a mean feat.

Punting
Sep 9, 2007
I am very witty: nit-witty, dim-witty, and half-witty.

Lotish posted:

Related, but name him Iroh.

Second.

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Ask me how bad I can be, motherfucker


Lord Ephraim posted:

I'm in the extreme minority that likes Suikoden III the best. Sure it has its boring moments, but so does every single game in the series.

Only this time you get ducks with axes

Really? I was under the impression it was considered the best in the series. I mean it's hard to beat Suikoden II what with it having LUCCA MOTHERFUCKING BLIGHT , but most people have told me III is still better.

I'm glad someone's LPing this. I have been wanting to play it forever, but my PS2 is broken and I can't be assed to go out and buy one. Also, I have no idea where to find this game. I guess Amazon or Ebay.

Contra Calculus fucked around with this message at Jan 4, 2013 around 17:28

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

They're my ~~~uguuu~ tildes, and I love them and I'm going to marry them when I grow up


Contra Calculus posted:

Really? I was under the impression it was considered the best in the series.
I'm only familiar with LP's, but discussion in the threads consistently ranks the series as 2->1/5->3-------->4.

Still the best intro in the series though.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Lowtax


Contra Calculus posted:

Really? I was under the impression it was considered the best in the series. I mean it's hard to beat Suikoden II what with it having LUCCA MOTHERFUCKING BLIGHT , but most people have told me III is still better.

I'm glad someone's LPing this. I have been wanting to play it forever, but my PS2 is broken and I can't be assed to go out and buy one. Also, I have no idea where to find this game. I guess Amazon or Ebay.

It has the best intro, but sadly next to none of the scenes in III's intro actually occur as shown, or at all, really. I is still better than the rest of the series, and III tries to come close and falls short.

yokaiy
Dec 25, 2012

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Looking forward to a complete LP of this one. The game was never released in Europe and even though I own a NTSC copy I never had a modded PS2 to play it on and my PC is to weak for PS2 emulation.

Honestly, I'm surprised I can run it on mine. 2008 model MacBook Pro dual-booting Windows 7. How is it able to run things I don't even know.

It chugs a bit though, depending on how much stuff is on-screen. Makes it easier to get screen caps for, I guess.

Hopefully I'll be able to rope TheAsterite into letting us play on his big donk computer instead, eventually...


Contra Calculus posted:

I'm glad someone's LPing this. I have been wanting to play it forever, but my PS2 is broken and I can't be assed to go out and buy one. Also, I have no idea where to find this game. I guess Amazon or Ebay.

I got mine off of ebay. It goes pretty cheap there, especially compared to the others in the series.

Xander77 posted:

Still the best intro in the series though.

Azure_Horizon posted:

It has the best intro.

Yes. Yes it does.

CVE
Jan 27, 2012


yokaiy posted:

Honestly, I'm surprised I can run it on mine. 2008 model MacBook Pro dual-booting Windows 7. How is it able to run things I don't even know.

It chugs a bit though, depending on how much stuff is on-screen. Makes it easier to get screen caps for, I guess.

Well I could run it but since my Laptop is pretty clustered with too much stuff it runs at about 10-20 fps out of combat which isn't really fun. But I'll be playing along once my new PC arrives sometime next week and finally complete the entire series playthrough wise.

In thread related news I personally consider II the best then V then I but given that I haven't played III it might be a skewered perspective.

CmdrKing
Oct 14, 2012


Our Flame Champion must be Iroh.

Pladdicus
Aug 13, 2010


Don't really follow Avatar myself, Brand and Zuko were still fine names but I'll hope on the bandwagon for Iroh

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FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012


remove my vote for Zuko, I'm siding with the better Iroh

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