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InEscape posted:Guys I finally have an idiot! Hilariously enough, this picture (Orestes Pursued by the Furies) shows Orestes being rightfully tormented by the furies for murdering his mother. He had done so because his mother had killed his father/her husband (Agamemnon) for sacrificing their daughter to the gods for better sailing weather. Oh man, this works on so many levels but very much not how your friend imagines.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2013 10:25 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 13:42 |
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Azrael Alexander posted:Why does "being forced to die in war" make men superior? That doesn't even make any sense. And the person who typed this poo poo certainly never leaves the safety of his own basement, so why does he even have anything to say on the matter? He was never forced to go to war either. Not to mention that soldiers aren't the only people that die in wars. Any number of civilian casualties would have women among them, and I'm sure they didn't exactly volunteer for it either. Besides, didn't the US decide a few months ago that they are gonna allow female soldiers in front-line units after all? Yet if you bring any of that up, the guy is probably just gonna cry "b-but selective service!!" as if there's a chance that will ever be relevant to him.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2013 10:55 |
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Regalingualius posted:Assuming that this is a true statistic (though I honestly don't buy it for a moment without a legit source), wouldn't the second statistic point more towards how over-prevalent/trigger-happy American gun owners are? It's either completely made up or the definition of "using" is so large that it's completely meaningless. In they year 2011 there have only been 201 cases of justifiable homicide (i.e. in self-defense) that involved firearms in the US, excluding killings by the police. So according to those numbers, only 0,0002% of the times a gun is used in self-defense it leads to death. Seems like americans are indeed pretty lovely shots
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2013 11:02 |
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Speaking of Dawkins, I have no idea how this one came about but it well never not be funny to me:
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2013 15:43 |
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Fatkraken posted:I assume it's when police shoot someone who isn't a criminal. Except the "error rate" for civilians is huge isn't it, "husband rolls in late, wife shoots him assuming he's a burglar" is pretty common, not to mention accidents and suicides. I suspect they define it something like "person intentionally shoots at somebody they shouldn't have shot at", which conveniently ignores the huge number of accidents that happen when somebody just handles a firearm improperly or otherwise has it injure somebody without actually trying to. Perestroika has a new favorite as of 13:21 on Oct 4, 2013 |
# ¿ Oct 4, 2013 13:18 |
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Vintersorg posted:What was a good rebuttal for people all for drug testing people on welfare? I am sick to death of this poo poo appearing on my feed. Most basically, it simply costs more than it saves. In Utah they've had exactly 12 people who didn't pass. I'm not entirely certain just how much money was saved by that, but even taking the governor's numbers (who is a proponent of that system) and assuming a best case it would have been like ~15.000$ at the most. Meanwhile, the costs of reimbursing everyone for actually taking those tests came up to around 30.000$. Same deal in Arizona: Exactly one person failed, saving the state a whopping 500 bucks. Oklahoma? 35.000$ saved at 82.000$ cost. Florida also lost 45.000$ in their attempts. Even if the costs were nonexistent the savings would be still just a drop in the bucket, as the total expenditure for welfare tends to be in the tens or hundreds of millions in most states. Turns out people who barely even have enough money to eat generally don't have anything to spare for drugs. The rate for drug use among welfare recipents is at around one third of the national average. Secondly, if the people who you're arguing with have any shred of empathy, remind them that the point of welfare is to avoid people starving or becoming homeless. If some happen to do drugs while still being fed and sheltered, then it's still mission accomplished as far as the government is concerned. Perestroika has a new favorite as of 18:08 on Oct 15, 2013 |
# ¿ Oct 15, 2013 18:05 |
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suztan posted:Why is it that MRAs tend to clutch onto "holding the door open for The Females" as the #1 indication of their worth as a fuckable human being? Do they just rudely shut doors in the faces of men to indicate to prospective mates that they're not weird queers? It just seems like common courtesy to hold the door open for people if there's a crowd behind you but it's not like I get mad or even irritated when someone blazes through and I have to grab the door myself. Of course I'm not a dude so I don't understand the plight of the classy modern That reminded me of this hilarious (and apparently entirely serious) MRA comic I've seen floating around here recently: It seems like some of them believe that those things are somehow of such import that they make up for any other inequality. So if a man goes to the great length of holding a door for a woman he is personally repaying society's debts towards her, and as such naturally deserves to be rewarded with sex.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2013 11:11 |
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Fatkraken posted:"put together"? That makes it sound like they're just talking about the grand total spend, not the per-capita. Those other countries are each much smaller than the US, even added together their population probably doesn't match that of the States, and also many of them have a heavily subsidised university system which probably accounts for a large chunk of the total budget. What is the per-child spend k-12, adjusted for costs of living (you'll get a better teacher for $20,000 a year in a country where that's enough to put you in the top 10% of earners than one where it puts you in the bottom 10%) Not to go all , but I wonder how much of the US' educational budget goes towards their school's sports teams compared to other countries. It's probably a fairly large chunk, which would further skew that comparision.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2013 12:24 |
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Crewmine posted:
You see, cutting off your little finger and cutting off your head is the same thing because they're both functional parts of your body
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2014 16:04 |
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Flaskraven posted:Dawkins retweeted something a little out there today. For a bit of context, the number of religiously motivated violent attacks in Germany in 2012 (of any kind, not just by muslims) seems to be less than 20. By comparision, the number of violent attacks motivated by racism in the same year lies at around 226. But yeah, it's clearly the all muslims' fault.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2014 23:43 |
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thunderspanks posted:I hate this guy so much that I actually enjoy having more reasons to hate him. I do like how they limit it to "combat" deaths. I guess civilian women dying in wars don't count. Forgall posted:Do you have a link to back this up? I'd like to rub someone's face into it if it's true. Here's a nice article about just that: http://www.villainouscompany.com/vcblog/archives/2012/04/child_supportcu.html, mostly citing this study, which is a bit dense. These are the relevant numbers again: quote:Study 1: MASS
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2014 17:21 |
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Ambitious Spider posted:seen this going around: ...do they not realise that most of this is literally already happening? You go to work at a place and work there, creating a certain amount of value through your labour. Your employer then takes a large chunk of that value as their profits and pays you only a fraction of it as wage. The second paragraph applies to "right-to-work" situations and salaries for CEOs, and the last paragraph is pretty much taken care of by all the "but our poor job-creators " that republicans and libertarians like to pull.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2014 21:06 |
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Alpacalips Now posted:I hate hearing this non-argument over and over again. Prices are driven by supply and demand, a fact that anyone who claims to love capitalism should know. Among my friends, the people who post this stuff barely make more than minimum wage, but are happy to poo poo on people who still do. And then they moan when said people are forced to take government assistance from THEIR TAX DOLLARS because they don't earn enough to make ends meet. Not to mention that wages only make up about 20% of the average running costs of a McDonald's, and not all of those are at minimum wage level either. So even if any increase in the minimum wage somehow was directly passed on to the customer, that would still only be proportional to those 20%. Even a whopping 100% increase in wages (from ~7,50$ to 15$) wouldn't lead to a 1200% price increase like that macro implies, not to mention that the vastly increased purchasing power all around would likely lead to a significant increase in revenue.
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2014 18:03 |
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trapped mouse posted:This is just so blatantly wrong I'm astonished that he would attach his Twitter handle to it. From his point of view it makes perfect sense: Undeniable Fact: Obama is a Kenyan muslim infiltrator and not eligible for presidency[1] Objection: The routine intensive background checks for presidential canidates (even just congressmen, really) would have uncovered that. Solution: There are actually not background checks for presidents. Internal consistency preserved! 1: Fact
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2014 20:37 |
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Ambitious Spider posted:A quick google search shows that wal-mart sells (or did as of november 13) the iphone 5 for 30 bucks with a contract. Not to mention that often as not it's probably an older model and those people just can't tell the difference, assuming that naturally it must the be the most expensive option. But yeah, having a smart-phone is probably the cheaptest way to have regular access to phone, email and internet, all of which are borderline essential to finding jobs nowadays.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2014 22:10 |
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serbp posted:Holy poo poo this loving guy This never ceases to boggle my mind. These shirtless Putin shots are ridiculously obvious propoganda just barely a step above "Dear Leader is the best golfer in the world but has since stopped playing to give everybody else a chance". Yet people eat that poo poo up like crazy.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 16:00 |
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LorrdErnie posted:Who's the one on the right? Probably Jane Fonda, who was very outspoken against the Vietnam War. Conservatives really, really know how to hold a grudge.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2014 17:19 |
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Zeether posted:Richard Dawkins decided to be a dick on Twitter again, this time towards Muslim women: https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/442363441740009472 Always relevant:
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2014 21:33 |
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Byzantine posted:Isn't the MLP world an absolute monarchy. All the fawning about Putin has shown that american conservatives would be absolutely fine with an authoritarian dictator as long as he shares their views on guns, shirtlessness, and gay people.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2014 13:02 |
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Nibbles141 posted:The Enliven Project put false rape reports at 2%, with a report rate of 10%. It happens, but it's absolutely dwarfed by the number of unreported cases when your favourite MRA wants to make the comparison. Or to put it into a nice graphical format: Other findings suggest that false accusations of rape are about as common as false accusations of any other crime. The motivations are mostly the same, too: The desire to gently caress over the target of the false accusation out of personal animosity or some other reason. The whole "crying rape because of regret" thing almost never happens.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2014 12:06 |
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That DICK! posted:The conservative boner for Putin is so loving weird, given how he's pretty much exactly the type of dictator they characterize Obama to be. A singificant subsection of conservatives would be completely fine with an authoritarian dictator, as long as he shared their views on guns, gay people and abortions.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2014 21:46 |
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Met posted:I don't even get the relevance of the first thing. Your language is #1. Why are you mad? The offense is that other languages have the audacity to even be available! Though I'm fairly certain that one is word-for-word just an originally US-centric thing where somebody subsituted "America" with "Britain". And similarly to the US, the UK devotes less than 1% of its budget towards foreign aid, which also has been steadily reduced in recent years.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2014 13:59 |
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Obligatory Handle posted:My favorites are the inability to do basic math when working with sales tax, Though seriously, is there an actual reason not to include the tax by default? It just seems so completely superfluous, or is there actually a reason why you'd need to know the nontaxed price more often than the total one?
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2014 15:13 |
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Zeether posted:
To make things even worse/better, it's also stolen from this Cracked article: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-recent-trends-that-make-it-hard-to-trust-police-part-2_p2/. Note that it was posted just today. Somebody was so impressed with that joke that they just had to turn around and immediately reposted it as their own to impress their friends with their razor-sharp wit.
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2014 19:53 |