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Simstim posted:Isn't Ryan Murphy more involved this season compared to previous seasons of American Horror Story? Not only that, but his writing has certain patterns that are easy to detect if you've watched any of his in the past. The most glaring of which is the fact that no LGBT person will ever be anything other than a mary sue version of himself (Kurt, Lana, Zach Quinto's character in S1 AHS). Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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epenthesis posted:Not sure you have the firmest grasp on what a Mary Sue is. Maybe Mary Sue was the wrong term to use. But they are almost always idealized, nigh-perfect characters who undergo persecution and hardships but eventually wind up victorious in the end. Kurt as a bullied gay male who is talented at everything he does (talented enough to begin writing for an NYC upscale fashion magazine on the spot), Lana as a persecuted gay woman in the 60's who escapes an insane asylum and becomes a talented journalist (world-famous and rich in the present day), ect. Don't get me wrong- I enjoy the greater representation as a member of the gay community myself, but the way he writes certain character archetypes is getting a bit stale and the gay thing is just the one example off the top of my head. quote:I just hope the story doesn't build itself up so high it just topples over, like Asylum did. Even though it did have a bit of a disappointing ending wherein little was explained, I still found Asylum to be absolutely fantastic. I really love the "Tales from the Crypt" feel AHS has going on. I heard that this season might be a bit lighter in tone, which will probably do it wonders. And witches are awesome. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 21:14
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epenthesis posted:Neither Lana nor Quinto's S1 character were portrayed as perfect by a long shot, and while Lana emerged victorious, I don't really see how that was enough of a trope to make it unsatisfying. I gave up on Glee so long ago that I'll just take your word for it on Kurt. I was actually rooting for Lana the whole time, too. She was interesting as a character. But I guess I'd just like to see him write other kinds of characters with different personality types than what we've come to expect from him.
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Stabitha posted:There's a little preview clip of the season in this E! article. This looks fantastic. As a kid who grew up with Harry Potter & Buffy, I've always had a soft spot for witchcraft stories and I'm so freaking excited it's ridiculous.
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Sep 20, 2013 03:01
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I think this is going to be a hugely watched premiere. Like, it's insane how many people are excited for this.
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Oct 10, 2013 02:45
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I'm already liking this Madison chick.
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Oct 10, 2013 03:48
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Taliaquin posted:Watched it a day behind. Calling it now: Nan is going to be the next Supreme. I just think it's going to happen. Fiona will, of course, die because she's obsessed with immortality, and Nan will be recognized as far, far more powerful than people thought, as Fiona even suggests in this episode. I'm so glad someone else is calling it too. I caught on as soon as the scene at the museum happened.
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Oct 11, 2013 15:24
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Rapdawg posted:The thing that made me most happy was that we got some Voodooin this season because honestly I'm happy that the only mention of it won't just be a single witch. Someone I was watching it with thought there would be controversy about "the black characters having Voodoo" which we both agreed was stupid because its their own witch heritage. Brooms, covens, and loving black hats? That is generally sort of white people witchcraft based on Europe while Voodoo is an awesome mix of African Religion, Christianity, and many many other things. I'm very happy and really hoping they don't turn it into Voodoo vs. Witchcraft because even if that would be cool it could easy be seen as White Witches vs. Black Witches. Actually, that is literally what they are going for. Murphy said a big theme of the season is going to be racial tensions/race differences and one of them is voodoo magic vs. "witchcraft" magic. Also, Marie Laveau is going to be mighty pissed off that Jessica Lange raised Lalaurie and that is what starts the feud.
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Oct 15, 2013 17:31
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I'm loving the wild chemistry between Zoe and Misty (and Evan Peters?). Also, this is a stupid aside and just a random thing I noticed, but that's probably the first time I heard anyone ever use the "N" word on primetime TV without it being bleeped out. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Oct 17, 2013 |
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Oct 17, 2013 04:30
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haveblue posted:I'm trying not to read the reactions, but did anyone else have any reception problems tonight? I haven't been able to watch the episode yet because FX HD is constantly glitching out and freezing for a couple of seconds (Time Warner in NYC). YES! I thought for sure this was my cable at first. Good to see nothing is wrong (with the cable, at least).
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Oct 17, 2013 19:33
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Yodzilla posted:They don't seem to be doing a whole lot of schooling. Yeah, I'm kinda confused as to when the educating/"teaching them how to use their powers" part is happening? I'm assuming maybe off-camera, but given what we've seen, it's more of a place for them to stay while they run around and do whatever the hell they want, with the Big Mommy Witches cleaning up the mess after.
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Oct 17, 2013 21:33
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Midnight City posted:I'm loving it, but need to ask before getting my hopes ups, does all of this weird poo poo actually get a coherent explanation in the end? Or am I just walking into another Lost catastrophe? Yes for the first season (with the exception of one cliffhanger), "kinda" for the second season.
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Oct 19, 2013 20:25
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If I even look half as good as Jessica Lange at that age, I'll consider my life a huge success.
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Oct 24, 2013 03:02
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That scene with Violet, crazy Kesha witch and zombie Evan Peters was cute in a supremely weird way. I'm really liking the characters here. They have lots of chemistry.
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Oct 24, 2013 03:22
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This episode seriously surpassed almost all of last season in terms of disturbingness. A season which included gay reparation therapy, human skin furniture, and a coat hanger abortion.
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Oct 24, 2013 03:58
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AGirlWonder posted:Would they really do that? It's a very insulting/homophobic way of looking at gay men, that they are "female on the inside." I would be incredibly disappointed if they actually went with that. They could just say "those who are connected with the feminine side of the Universe" or some other such thing- or, hell, just not even address it at all. Like, 99% of male Wiccans I've encountered in real life are gay, so I don't think it's that much of a stretch. I realize that gay doesn't equal feminine in the least, but there is definitely a cultural connotation between the two and witchcraft has traditionally been about liberating the underdog from "The [heterosexual, right-wing Christian] Man" so it fits. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 1, 2013 |
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Never saw Murder House or Asylum, but loving this show so far. I intend to go back and watch the others, but next season better be American Horror Story: Cthulhu. I would love to have either "AHS: New England Cthulu Cult" or "AHS: Wild West Banshee Cowboys". Seasons 5 and 6, respectively?
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...of SCIENCE! posted:My favorite Ryan Murphy moment is in Murder House where after the commercial break there's a totally pointless scene of a gay guy being murdered in the 70s and then it cuts to the modern day and it's the tour guide for the murder tour telling that story before going on to the actual Murder House story. My favorite was the ridiculously hamfisted "THERE ARE NO STATISTICS TO SUGGEST GAY PEOPLE ARE WORSE PARENTS THAN STRAIGHT ONES" line that was flung at Jessica Lange by Zachary Quinto. It was just so out of place in the scene that it was almost jarring. Almost like Murphy forgot that it wasn't Glee but still wanted to shove in some sort of pro-gay message- which is commendable, but not when it's so obvious as to be jarring/PSA-ish.
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Xenogenesis posted:I may be wrong since I haven't watched Asylum since it aired, but couldn't that have been related to the conversion therapy he just did to the lesbian main character whose partner was the target of antigay violence? No, this was on Murder House, the scene where Lange is attempting to get Quinto's character to give up his plans to adopt Mrs. Harmon's baby. They were bickering back and forth and Lange said something like "What you are is unnatural!" and then Quinto just blandly stated the "studies show blah blah blah" line, like he was in a PSA or something. It was sort of odd, out of character, and didn't fit in with the tone of the rest of the conversation. quote:She was calling him unnatural because he was a ghost and he misinterpreted it as being a gay jab, so he countered her bigotry with facts. Oh, that makes sense. I guess I must've misunderstood that line then. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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Nov 6, 2013 02:19
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That was a fantastic scene.
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Nov 7, 2013 04:20
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They're a car full of witches and they're screaming because some zombies are coming after them? Laaamee. Willow and Hermione would like a word with them
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Nov 7, 2013 04:25
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Next time I need to get rid of a boner, I'll just think of that. Thanks AHS e: also, is it just me, or is Misty like one of the most attractive people ever?
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Nov 7, 2013 04:56
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uptown posted:...wouldn't you? This. To be fair, most people "back then" didn't put much thought into racism. They literally believed that African Americans were less than they were because it was how they were taught and what society said. The ones who changed their minds did so mainly because they were confronted with proof otherwise, and that's how the African American civil rights movement (and most other civil rights movements) got started.
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dr_rat posted:I agree, it sort of felt like craziness from all over the place just came together for just this short, intense period of insanity that burnt to hot to fast and put itself out, and everything after was just the people who somehow got through it all trying (and sometimes failing) to put themselves and their lives back together again. I actually liked the message (if you can call it that) at the end: all of these supernatural creatures are running around creating havoc, and yet people remain the scariest monsters of all. You can defeat every paranormal being out there, but you can never defeat the bad parts of human nature. It's a theme common to horror (see: Stephen King) but one that is a great theme if done properly. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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fullroundaction posted:The only thing that can defeat a house full of witches is a locked door. Yeah, I like this season but when it comes to the magic part these witches are a bit, uh... lame? Where're the fireballs, the toad-turning, the levitating? I guess I was expecting "The Craft" at LEAST and got a bunch of souped-up Wiccans. "Oh, you're a guy with an axe and I'm a witch? I'm going to stumble around and scream a lot while other witches freak out because the door's locked" Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Honestly I'd go as far as to say that Lilly Rabe (e: and Bassett!) deserves an Emmy nomination for this role. I utterly adore Misty. FrankenTate is also adorable. I love the way he always looks so petrified and in desperate need of a hug and/or bath.
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DrFrankenStrudel posted:
I actually doubt that line was supposed to mean anything other than "blah blah dark magic they're doing dark necromancy magic blah" and Zoe's quip was a clever little comeback. The consequence to that is already being shown- FrankenKyle.
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QuoProQuid posted:LaLaurie is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters. I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah like her getting to gently caress a zombie haha what the poo poo?
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Nov 21, 2013 04:35
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They really should've put Denis O'Hare in the crazy sax guy role instead of the weirdo butler.
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Nov 21, 2013 04:41
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It's pretty lovely how Zoe & Madison basically doing the exact same thing that Kyle's mother did to him and using him for sex. But not as lovely as I am for feeling bad for a racist baby killer.
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Taliaquin posted:
I think its because present-day Delphine just looks so cutesy, meek and lovable, like a sweet old middle-aged nanny without a shred of evil in her. Past-Delphine is a terrible bitch who is easy to hate. I would've been rooting and cheering if the final few minutes of this episode had happened to past Delphine.
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Nov 21, 2013 21:11
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AGirlWonder posted:That explanation doesn't make sense, though. If the Salem witches' power is genetic, then how could it have started with Tituba? Yeah, that sounds kind of propaganda-ish to me. Witchcraft was around in England long before Salem. While I suppose Tituba might have taught them how to channel their powers or some such it was probably already "inside" of them.
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Nov 24, 2013 05:26
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I still can't get over how, uh, un-witchy these witches are. There's like seven of them at this point. You mean to tell me Fiona is THAT powerful that they can't overpower her or something?
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ThatPazuzu posted:I don't like that nobody is normal. They live is this giant magical fantasy New Orleans while other seasons made it clear that things were not normal. I'm willing to bet you've never been to New Orleans before. It's probably the least "normal" place you can go in the country.
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hepscat posted:It doesn't help that the storylines that started the season went nowhere, like Cordelia being so desperate for a baby she had scary snake sex and bottled up her husband's semen and took it to LaVeau. Then we learn her husband is cheating on her, then a witch hunter, and now she knows there's something off about him and there's no mention again of how much she wanted her own child. I feel like this season would have worked better if they had 22 episodes to work with. Instead, they're clearly trying way too hard to fit all of these BIG THEMES and COOL PLOTLINES into what is basically half of a regular season. It worked for Murder House & Asylum but I think they sort of overshot their boundaries this season.
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Coconut Indian posted:In Asylum, why do the characters call him Bloodyface when they can't possibly know about the mask he wears? The only time anyone would see him wear it would be right before they died. It's possible that he called himself that or earned that nickname prior to donning the mask. Some infamous serial killers were known to write in to newspapers.
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The dialogue in this show is exceptional, and definitely its greatest strength.
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You're a witch. Blast him away or something, yeesh
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Okay now THAT was some good television. If only the prior episodes were this good.
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