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the sci fi miniseries looks better but takes liberties with the story. paul and irulan never meet until the very end of the book and i don't recall any weird flirting scenes with her and feyd. also paul instigates the final fight with feyd. the lynch film does a the miniseries does a better job with the costume designs but it totally feels like a budget job when they do desert scenes.
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etalian posted:The SyFy dune remake had a much better baron harkonnen despite being pretty bad overall. Christ, what'd they mount the camera on, a seesaw? I get the feeling my neck would hurt more after watching this than it did after Battlefield Earth.
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The Tao Jones posted:Christ, what'd they mount the camera on, a seesaw? I get the feeling my neck would hurt more after watching this than it did after Battlefield Earth. Most directors don't know how to use a french tilt but do anyway.
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Yeah the fat virus poo poo is a Brian Herbert creation so it didn't actually happen that way. Vladimir Harkonnen is a uber rich corrupt dude and got fat due to living in excess.
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Jul 29, 2014 04:22
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I think I read one Brian Herbert book and it had a woman being raped then having her throat slit while her brother (IIRC) is forced to watch. Which if you think about it is a good metaphor for what Brian is doing to his father's work.
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Bubble-T posted:I think I read one Brian Herbert book and it had a woman being raped then having her throat slit while her brother (I think?) is forced to watch. Huge, complex backstory is usually best when hinted at or alluded to. But then some yahoo always has to come along and actually try to give us the whole thing-- the Butlerian Jihad, or the Clone Wars.
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Google Alicia Witt to find out how young Alia has turned out.
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Yeah the butlerian jihad was fine as it was alluded to in the Frank Herbert books. I never felt like I wanted to know about that era in his universe but it was a sufficient explanation as to why technology was the way it was in Dune. Honestly the best extended-universe stuff were the Dune RTS games. Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle For Dune were excellent takes on the Dune universe mixed with the Lynch mythos and its own stuff. All the while the games managed to be excellent and fun.
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redshirt posted:Google Alicia Witt to find out how young Alia has turned out. 
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The Tao Jones posted:Huge, complex backstory is usually best when hinted at or alluded to. But then some yahoo always has to come along and actually try to give us the whole thing-- the Butlerian Jihad, or the Clone Wars. well this is partilaly because nerds are giant babies who dont understand how wanting something can be better than actually having it
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backstories are good when they're hinted at and don't have encyclopedias and appendices detailing every specific event and person.
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Action Tortoise posted:backstories are good when they're hinted at and don't have encyclopedias and appendices detailing every specific event and person. I would have taken a Dune Silmarillion over Brian Herbert trying to tell stories in his father's universe.
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Jul 29, 2014 04:56
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redshirt posted:Google Alicia Witt to find out how young Alia has turned out. 
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hemophilia posted:I would have taken a Dune Silmarillion over Brian Herbert trying to tell stories in his father's universe.  it. And surprise! it's way better than the prequels.
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Jul 29, 2014 05:05
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Anyone wanna guess why The Dune Encyclopedia is still out of print?!? (Despite Frank Herbert writing the foreword?) Yup...
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Pochoclo posted:He doesn't look like that, are you really reading Dune or just watching Lynch's movie? No, he had anti-grav belts to support his fat-rear end so he could even move in the book. The sores and other poo poo are just standard Lynch bullshit though.
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hemophilia posted:I would have taken a Dune Silmarillion over Brian Herbert trying to tell stories in his father's universe. i haven't read a dune book past the first one but i remember watching the intro to david lynch's version and it was the most boring slideshow and the worst way to start a movie.
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I liked how Dune and the Encyclopedia describe the Butlerian Jihad being as much against "machine thought" as against literal machines. When people in the Dune universe talk about "machine domination" that's sort of their own biased/loaded term about the past, like how we use the term "Dark Ages." But it was more about revolting against a degenerate way of life that had become dominant after machines were built to run everything. Like Bora Horza Gobuchul in Consider Phlebas and the way he thinks about The Culture is a lot like how Dune people think of society before the Jihad. And the precipitating cause was unjustified, assembly-line-style abortions on a planet by an AI-run hospital. Translate that into the Brian/Kevin prequels, and you get the Decepticons dropping a baby off a balcony complete with a splat sound and the mother screaming "my baby!" SunAndSpring posted:No, he had anti-grav belts to support his fat-rear end so he could even move in the book. The sores and other poo poo are just standard Lynch bullshit though.
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The prequels were better than the originals. Far more entertaining than the dad's books.
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Morally Inept posted:The prequels were better than the originals. Far more entertaining than the dad's books. 
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Omi-Polari posted:The main thing that sinks that movie and makes it unreedemable is the extreme homophobia. The Baron is a homosexual villain and then Lynch went and added sores ... in 1984. it's a throwaway line in the books when the baron asks for a slaveboy who resembles paul atreides. i read it more as him being a pederast than a depraved homosexual.
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etalian posted:white people never get attacked by sandworms white people fly across the desert in ornithopters like this *fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt*fpt* fremen walk across the desert like this step...step..step.step.....step.step...step..stepstep..step....step
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I saw this in a movie theater a couple months ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WWu1kclNDA Literally EVERYTHING was in place to REALLY DO THIS and they had the budget and everyone ready to go for it - but then the studio got dumb and said no. We were cheated out of a dune that would have had the collaborative efforts of: Pink Floyd. Dali. Orson Welles. HR Giger. Moebius. Magma. And countless other talents and soon-to-be-established talents from that time. Holy poo poo. Fortunately - The team that he assembled to create the movie went on to do a ton of other influential things. And a lot of the work they made mutated into things you see in other films later - so even without the film being made the film art & business was revolutionized after all. He is also cool with the idea of someone taking his original script and realizing it in animated form. Oh and after he got done with movies, he went on to create a massive body of work writing really cool arty comics (to this day) that are as bizarre and beautiful as his films. He's returning to movie-making to direct a new film now too.
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Morally Inept posted:The prequels were better than the originals. Far more entertaining than the dad's books. Aren't you the guy who hosed a dog?
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I'm like really sure morally inept raped a dog.
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Spacedad posted:I saw this in a movie theater a couple months ago. I thought he walked out in anger on pink floyd for not taking his vision super seriously? I would like to have seen Jodorowski's dune, make no mistake. I'd have also liked to see Lynch's cut of Dune, but Jodorowski's seems like something pretty disconnected from Dune itself.
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Spacedad posted:I saw this in a movie theater a couple months ago.
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I liked that doc but one of the things that irked me was how they'd say "hollywood just couldn't handle his vision. they were afraid of him!" yes, they were afraid of investing a lot of money in a bunch of euro artistes who were promising something too good to be true. and jodorowsky was absolutely intransigent about having total directorial control. directorial control is good. too little and you get david lynch's dune. but the opposite and you can get the star wars prequels (which made a lot of money, but still) or heaven's gate.
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Palpek posted:
she'd just compare you unfavorably to Duke Leto still, would
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Fools, Chani is were it's at.
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 What a goon
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MeLKoR posted:Fools, Chani is were it's at. 
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nice av. sting is nice too but too much on the bad boy side. i'm literally gay for dune
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He can weird my module any time... Also the Jodorowsky movie, as visually cool as it might have been, would likely have been an unwatchable mess, like every Tarkovsky movie ever. Me, I want Ridley Scott in his glory days to direct a Dune movie, using Lynch's aesthetics. Maybe get Scorsese on the team, to direct the scenes involving cold-blooded future space diplomacy and cut-throatery. Get Al Pacino as Shaddam IV, recast Patrick Stewart as Gurney, Karl Urban as Paul Atreides, De Niro as Duncan Idaho, Joe Pesci as Baron Harkonnen, Johnny Depp as Piter DeVries, hell I'm getting a hardon just thinking about it.
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etalian posted:The SyFy dune remake had a much better baron harkonnen despite being pretty bad overall. House Harkonnen is a u-store-it facility in a Tucson strip mall "it seemed the proper way" 
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Morally Inept posted:He wasn't a goon because he was a strong chiseled character and only became fat when Gaius Mohium gave him a disease by manipulating her own body chemistry to activate a degenerate disease when he was forcing himself on her. gently caress you and the horse you rode in on, thats not canon
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