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JT Jag posted:I'm curious as to what the rationale is for us "flipping the table" now, considering we've already started giving our report. You know, you're right, and I think what I actually meant to vote for was Trust but verify, with ALL of the skepticism and wariness now armed.
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poor life choice posted:To throw gas on the wild-eyed bad opinion fire I think that Grey Knights avoid falling to Chaos by already being possessed by something. Whether that's the God-Emperor, some fledging Order warp god or just a particularly clean-cut Nurgle daemon, these guys are already occupied. I changed my mind PANIC
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 20:54 |
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Arkanomen posted:I changed my mind
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 20:59 |
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If the Grey Knights get possessed by something as part of their initiation, it's by something really, really low on our totem pole of concerns, because whatever possesses them is very clearly against all of the Ruinous Powers as we know them.
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 21:00 |
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JT Jag posted:If the Grey Knights get possessed by something as part of their initiation, it's by something really, really low on our totem pole of concerns, because whatever possesses them is very clearly against all of the Ruinous Powers as we know them. http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Malal
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 21:03 |
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... I stand by my statement.
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 21:12 |
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LowellDND posted:A brave little theory. Keep it in mind later Well. That's not ominous at all. Panic Yeah, something's fishy with this whole warp planet thing. I'll go with Tranplan for now though.
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 21:37 |
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LowellDND posted:A brave little theory. Keep it in mind later If only we lived in such a universe....
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 22:09 |
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Arkanomen posted:It's not a matter of this being an illusion, but rather a super intricate plot by our patron bird to slowly corrupt our principles and bring us into his fold. I mean what is our end goal? For me it's the dissolution of the current Imperium structure and reformation under the guiding hand of Athena, ourselves and Fabiyan to push back the internal corruption of man and the threat of hostile xeno incursion. Even assuming this is our goal (since we are, at best, clinically insane, and at worst, a goon led hive mind), flipping the table, calling K and the Gray Knights poop-heads, and smashing things advances these goals not at all. Especially since the logical next step would be turning us into a mind-wiped drone.
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 22:28 |
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sullat posted:Even assuming this is our goal (since we are, at best, clinically insane, and at worst, a goon led hive mind), flipping the table, calling K and the Gray Knights poop-heads, and smashing things advances these goals not at all. Especially since the logical next step would be turning us into a mind-wiped drone.
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 22:31 |
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Wow, I'm sad that I even have to post this: No flipping any tables, and Tran Plan
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# ? Sep 15, 2015 22:50 |
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tranplan tran waci xun sniper holly oasx JT paradigm sheep table flip ark slaan thaum Might do an errand first, but I'm working on the outline
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 00:03 |
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I thought it was the Exorcists that got possessed by demons and then poo poo them out for their initiation? I think the Grey Knights just get inked, instead. Nano-scale purity seals or something, angstroms long pieces of parchment affixed to them by wax and nuclear forces. Probably hand woven by Jokerao.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 00:47 |
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No bloody table flipping. The rationale is literally "I don't like politics and I reject any reality in which we need to play politics," followed by vastly overestimating our power and leverage. You don't like politics? Hey, great, that's a valid opinion, it can be hard to follow at times. That doesn't mean that politics suddenly stops mattering just because you will it so. Besides, we're a Rogue Trader right next to Holy loving Terra, center of government for the world's largest intergalactic empire. What the heck did you THINK was going to happen here if not politics, the Emperor himself rising from the Golden Throne to rest his hands on our shoulders and say "Ohone, the time has come for your faith, wisdom, and devotion to lead the Imperium as the new God-Empress, let none question your will!"?
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 02:19 |
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Tomn posted:No bloody table flipping. Uh, yeah kinda? He did bless our husband and resurrected us once!
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 02:34 |
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Why are we responding to "we've sent an elite force of the most powerful warriors in the universe to search hell itself to find and rescue your sainted husbando" with "gently caress you" ?! Do not flip a table for fucks sake
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 02:38 |
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Calling it now the tau is really a nuclear device and the table is sitting on the deadman switch Flip the table
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 02:46 |
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Arkanomen posted:Uh, yeah kinda? He did bless our husband and resurrected us once! That's more evidence for Fabiyan being the true hero of the story than that Ohone is particularly respected by the Emperor.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 02:47 |
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I kind of expect everyone to stand up and clap if nothing else. But why think small? You're a loving Rogue Trader and an Inquisitior and a Magos and herlad of an ancient diety, an individual of frankly absurd power treading the Warp before the very gates of Terra. Act like it. Announce yourself to the Galaxy. "For twelve centuries, you have been asking: What is the Darkness? This is the Darkness speaking. I am the woman who loves her life. I am the woman who does not sacrifice her love or her values. I am the woman who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are perishing-you who dread knowledge-I am the woman who will now tell you."
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 03:06 |
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Tranplan
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 03:43 |
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This is your End by Unter Null Witness Even as the relief of knowing of Fabiyan’s rescue eased your muscles, your mind began to itch, the old paranoia come back to you. Why would a tenth of the Grey Knights abandon other tasks, attempt to find him? There were many saints in the Imperium, all of them in danger. Why was he such a priority? And why did they send one hundred Knights? Ten would have done just as well. Your relaxed face fell back into its familiar frown. That wasn’t the only anomaly, now that you thought of it. A xeno, in what was probably the second most secure place in the Imperium? One where even some Grey Knights weren’t allowed to go? And Kozilek, that known xenophobe fanatic, amiable in his hatred. You felt it in your bones - something was wrong. Best to play for time. “Why me, though? I’m probably a tenth of any of your experience.” Kozilek nodded. “If you are asking why you were made Inquisitor - you are among the very few who survive the sifting. That you were on the Beast was an added bonus.” “Were there other agents? Aside from Limosa, of course.” He shrugged. “We try a handful every generation, but your previous Lord-Sire was rather good at getting them killed. It’s unclear if he knew what they were, or just had his own sorting process looking for heirs.” “I see. But why this level of support for an Inquisitor? There are probably a million of us, and just as many saints.” Kozilek quirked into a smile. “Not that many, I daren’t say. But yes, your quick success has marked you as a priority. Who else in all the Imperium has your record?” You grimaced. “You aren’t the only ones. Your telepath saw it, I assume.” The Grand Master nodded. “He did. You’ve been Marked.” “You didn’t burn it from my brain right then?” “Consider it a test. Whether you knew about it, whether you chose to tried to hide it.” “I want it removed, of course.” Kozilek nodded approvingly, even as some of the other faces looked like they lost a bet. “We can begin the purification rituals after this meeting. A quick removal like the one you are picturing would be … messy. Slow and sure is better, when we want to keep an asset.” Dryly: “It’s good to be appreciated.” Quiet chuckles. You thought of something. “Grand Master, you said you were investigating the pylons.” “Certainly.” “My initial investigations of the STC suggested an alternate method of faster-than-light. Avoiding the warp.” Surprisingly, it was the Tau who responded fastest, before quickly devolving into technical details. “How? What are the specifications? Materials needed?” You ignored her. “When we recover the STC, the Imperium should begin investigating those questions.” A quiet laugh. “Oh, I have also found myself with a survivor of the Great Crusade. She has knowledge of wraithbone crafting.” Kozilek shook his head, even as the other people began arguing with each other about what possibilities this opened up. “Only you, Ohone. Only you.” A strong voice cut through the babble, dominating it in a way that even the Grand Master hadn’t. “And that is why we approved her into our ranks, is it not?” You turned, felt yourself looking up at the familiar face of Athena.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 03:47 |
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OK, NOW we flip the table. not an actual vote
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 03:49 |
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I'd love to know at which stage between 'Grey Knights with Thunderhammers ruining her probes' and now Athena decided to start working with the Inquisition
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 03:55 |
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LowellDND posted:
What
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 03:55 |
They are totes in on our heresy I guess
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Waci fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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I'm gonna' disagree. Try to suppress the any sign of recognition until someone explains what the hell is going on. For all we know this isn't even Athena. We're in the warp and have serious issues with visual hallucinations.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:08 |
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Witness me Bloodbag! Now that you had time to focus on her, you noticed a few small differences. Age around the eyes, old spidery scars. And she wasn’t wearing the old uniform with eight circles - instead, it was a bland thing that would have been familiar on any Imperial World. As she came close, everyone stood up, and you were quick to follow. The Grand Master nodded. “Welcome back, Athena. It’s been too long.” They hugged briefly, his massive form towering over her. Athena glanced over at you. Her eyes… were deep. Terrifying, as if you could see the spin of the galaxy within them. A storm in almost human form. She moved to shake your hand, and you accepted gingerly. “My name is Athena. I founded this place.” You blinked, but played along. If she wanted to pretend it was your first meeting, you would go with it. “I thought Malcador did, and the Grey Knights?” She did an odd sort of smile. “Malcador and I were … close. A lot of our ideas came from both of us.” “So… are you some sort of immortal? Like a Space Marine?” She frowned, then. “No. I am a xeno, the last of my kind. The Great Enemy destroyed my species, and I swore to fight them to my death.” “When was this?” “Before your Imperium. Hundreds of centuries ago.” You gestured. “So what… is all this?” “The Grey Knights are the most secret chapter, not least because they fight the Great Enemy and work with the Inquisition, but they also work with xenos. As you can see with our Tau friend here.” Kozilek stirred, but said nothing. “And Malcador was for this?” “He was. He was always more … practical, in some ways, then the pure ideologies of your God-Emperor. In order to fight the Great Enemy, he formed an elite organization to work within the one I had established.” “Is there a name for this mysterious organization?” “The Cabal.”
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Uh Um... Wait and see what happens Edit: oh, more update! ...still confused
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:09 |
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plan athena harem
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:10 |
Are we sure this is our Athena? Could this be someone that just looks like her (or she like them) just to make it more confusing?
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:12 |
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Oh Goddammit. The Cabal? These guys are Eldar on steroids when it comes to information. Good choice, Lowell.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:18 |
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B.B. Rodriguez posted:Oh Goddammit. The Cabal? These guys are Eldar on steroids when it comes to information. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:19 |
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I think this is our Athena, covering for the AI thing with lies about xenos. Fine, since people are doubting whether this is our AI waifu: say hi to her in subsonic binary. Waci fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Sep 16, 2015 |
# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:19 |
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NOPE! CALL IN DISCO BOT! ABORT! ABORT! This all has to be drawn from our own mind or is a trap or is something bullshitty. Trust your paranioa, flip the table, summon Discobot and call for evac! e: vVvVvV Lucy we're hooOOOoommme Arkanomen fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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LowellDND posted:You turned, felt yourself looking up at the familiar face of Athena. Hail
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:22 |
I think its a different Athena? A copy, maybe even incomplete?
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:22 |
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Ask this Athena if she did any work with the Mars Federation during the DAoT.
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# ? Sep 16, 2015 04:23 |
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This is a part of Athena that has been awake for the last 15,000 years, separated from the ship and is now a separate being from the Athena we know.
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