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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:also: what is the right age to teach your kids about tupac? BEFORE they find out santa isn't real but AFTER you teach them about biggie smalls hey so anybody know why so many people adopt kids from overseas? Is it a weird legal thing where it's easier to adopt internationally?
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whoflungpoop posted:Adopting kids and giving them a loving home is a cool thing to do There are lots of people out there willing to adopt, but it takes a absurd amount of money and time, and even after all of that you can fart in church or something and get rejected anyways. Sometimes it seems people think if they are going to spend gobs and gobs of money anyways, why adopt a local runt when you can get an exotic kid that you can be extra smug about adopting. Sure children from around the world need love, but its not like there aren't kids in your own State or Province that need a home too. 
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Oct 21, 2014 20:19
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GrrrlSweatshirt posted:lmao if u pay 35k in hospital fees ftfy adopting is probably the most tolerable form of child-having I could imagine
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Oct 21, 2014 20:21
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Monkey Fracas posted:
Sometimes it's because they wouldn't be allowed to adopt in the US (they're gay or a single parent or whatever), but most often it's because in the US you could end up on a waiting list to adopt a kid and just keep on waiting for like, 7 years and at the end of that 7 years they might give you a 5 year old with a colostomy bag and aggression problems. If you go international you can decrease your wait time to 1-3 years and you can likely get a kid that's 1-3 years old.
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Oct 21, 2014 20:24
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Very interesting documentary following 4 families who are trying to adopt internationally. It shows how extremely hard it is, and going international is the easier route. http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70270911?trkid=13752289
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Oct 21, 2014 20:27
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I wouldn't mind fostering when I'm older but I also would like to grow my own weed so unless weed is decriminalised here in the next 15 years some disadvantaged kids are poo poo out of luck
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Oct 21, 2014 20:34
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Didn't really understand kids. They only seemed annoying and I never thought babies were cute. Then I became a father and it really is amazing. My point being you will probably change your minds when the time comes. This comes from a guy playing hard mode, got twins who will be 1 year in November.
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Oct 21, 2014 20:41
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Monkey Fracas posted:hey so anybody know why so many people adopt kids from overseas? Is it a weird legal thing where it's easier to adopt internationally? There's a lot more children up for adoption overseas, so it's less of a waiting list, and less expensive. I wanted to adopt a kid, my wife also wanted to but she also had that maternal instinct thing and wanted a child that resembled both of us, so we're going to do both (have 1 kid and adopt 1 kid). I don't mind the pooping of the pants or constant financial drain; the only reason I ever hesitated having kids was because I cannot comprehend constantly worrying about another human being so much. Like our dog was in the hospital overnight last week, and I was worried loving sick over it; I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, I felt terrible, etc. Imagine that but with a child.  I pray Google releases the self-driving cars before my kids get their driver's licenses. 
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Oct 21, 2014 20:43
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Mnemosyne posted:Sometimes it's because they wouldn't be allowed to adopt in the US (they're gay or a single parent or whatever), but most often it's because in the US you could end up on a waiting list to adopt a kid and just keep on waiting for like, 7 years and at the end of that 7 years they might give you a 5 year old with a colostomy bag and aggression problems. Why is that? They poo poo all over underprivileged kids in every single aspect of life, why jerk kids around to foster home to foster home to foster home rather then allow someone to adopt them and treat them as their own? Maybe go back to making them line up to be gawked at like dogs in a pound like in little orphan Annie or something. Sure the cute kids are going to get snatched up, but kids gotta learn at some point that life sucks, and sometimes you can't even just play the cards you were dealt because your hand sucks so bad.
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Torka posted:it's good to have kids because they completely occupy all your time and thoughts for at least two decades that you'd otherwise spend struggling to cope with the meaninglessness of existence instead
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Oct 21, 2014 20:47
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Seriously why on earth do they make adoption so god drat hard. Hurr durr we have tons of kids that need homes and tons of families that want to give them one but we're going to make the process of making this happen excessively expensive and long to the point where no one wants to do it unless its literally their only option. Imagine if you had to jump through the same hoops to have your own kid.
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Oct 21, 2014 21:02
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in lieu of policing reproduction somehow, let's give basically anybody quick unfettered access to kids who have nobody else I guess
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Oct 21, 2014 21:04
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Cucking Mama posted:in lieu of policing reproduction somehow, let's give basically anybody quick unfettered access to kids who have nobody else I guess unfettered access to children you say 
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Oct 21, 2014 21:08
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There is probably some rationale for it but man it sure does look like a lovely deal for pretty much everyone on the surfaceCucking Mama posted:in lieu of policing reproduction somehow, let's give basically anybody quick unfettered access to kids who have nobody else I guess I dunno if it is literally like 5-7 years that seems a little extreme maybe
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Oct 21, 2014 21:10
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Shnag posted:Why is that? They poo poo all over underprivileged kids in every single aspect of life, why jerk kids around to foster home to foster home to foster home rather then allow someone to adopt them and treat them as their own? I'm not an expert on this matter, but some of the kids who are in foster homes are kids whose parents haven't fully terminated their parental rights / given the kids up for adoption. There are a lot of people whose kids get taken away because they go to jail or because they've been declared negligent or whatever bad thing they did, but they're still considered the kid's parent. It's supposed to be some level of temporary until the bio parent can get themselves sorted out enough to take their kids back.
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Oct 21, 2014 21:11
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GORDON posted:edit - And I just realized, my parents generation were so screwed up that they have created a generation of people, half of whom are scared to death of ever becoming parents, themselves. How bout that. I don't think it's a "scared of becoming parents" thing so much as people realizing they don't have to become parents if they really don't want to. In generations past it was just sort of accepted that you would get married and have kids. For some reason people have sort of realized they don't need to do either of those or opt for just one.
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Oct 21, 2014 21:13
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People already have unfettered access to kids. Its called having a baby. Do you really think if they made the adoption process more reasonable you'd have a bunch of people adopting kids for sweatshops or something?
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Oct 21, 2014 21:15
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My sis adopted two black kids from a 3rd world country (America) and found out they were priced cheaper than white ones. :\
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Oct 21, 2014 21:44
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whoflungpoop posted:Jets WR David Nelson found a bunch of kids in Haiti who were being starved and neglected by a fake charity and adopted them all and built a house for them. He has his brother and hired local Haitian women to help look after them during football season. Some of those kids are adults. They're tricking him!
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Oct 21, 2014 21:52
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the problem with american adoptions is that all the prospects did gently caress all at the combine & have poo poo wonderlic scores
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Oct 21, 2014 21:55
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my parents had me because they didn't do anything else with their lives it hosed me up pretty bad when they didn't like how much work it was to raise a kid
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Al Nipper posted:My sis adopted two black kids from a 3rd world country (America) and found out they were priced cheaper than white ones. :\
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Lazyfire posted:I don't think it's a "scared of becoming parents" thing so much as people realizing they don't have to become parents if they really don't want to. In generations past it was just sort of accepted that you would get married and have kids. For some reason people have sort of realized they don't need to do either of those or opt for just one. I think a lot of people are like that. I think more people, though, are afraid of losing their awesome swinging life of bongs and xbox and disposable income and sleeping late and whatever. I think they should be more afraid of what happens when they aren't young any more and bongs and xbox and being alone doesn't doesn't have the appeal it once had. They can't comprehend that they could possibly be happy with the lovely diapers and 2am fever pukes and surly teen years and still be way happier than they can possibly imagine. edit - And fear of screwing up their own kids as badly as they feel their parents screwed them up. IMO GORDON fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Oct 22, 2014 |
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Oct 22, 2014 00:26
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oxytocin is pretty great and i'm sure addictive too yeah weed is probably cheaper though
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ThisGuy posted:I joined this internet forum after all my friends starting owning houses, having kids, and being boring fucks 'they used to be real fun dudes, always down to have a beer and listen to some rush, or up for a game of tabletop.'
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I started feeling like I wanted to have kids because my pregnant sister-in-law is visiting, but then I went to the doctor's office and the kids in the waiting room were all such a bunch of little shits, that I changed my mind instantly.
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Oct 22, 2014 00:39
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definitely weird to see idiot dudes from high school with wives and houses and 2 children on facebook. they're still 17-year-olds in my mind
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GORDON posted:I think a lot of people are like that. I think more people, though, are afraid of losing their awesome swinging life of bongs and xbox and disposable income and sleeping late and whatever. I think they should be more afraid of what happens when they aren't young any more and bongs and xbox and being alone doesn't doesn't have the appeal it once had. They can't comprehend that they could possibly be happy with the lovely diapers and 2am fever pukes and surly teen years and still be way happier than they can possibly imagine. Bongs and xbox dont get old tho....
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Lazyfire posted:It was in the "Why not abort all down's babies" thread and he basically didn't want to have his wife divorce him over their down's baby if he asked her to get an abortion and then he tried to convince the thread he was super happy that his three year old down's baby could do simple things. He had to abandon the thread because goons were telling him that the kid may have already hit his developmental ceiling and that he would probably die before 40 due to the much higher rate of heart failure and cancer in Down's adults. sounds like a p good thread tbh
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GORDON posted:I think a lot of people are like that. I think more people, though, are afraid of losing their awesome swinging life of bongs and xbox and disposable income and sleeping late and whatever. I think they should be more afraid of what happens when they aren't young any more and bongs and xbox and being alone doesn't doesn't have the appeal it once had. They can't comprehend that they could possibly be happy with the lovely diapers and 2am fever pukes and surly teen years and still be way happier than they can possibly imagine. I mean, kids are a huge undertaking that change your life completely, which is a huge factor in why we don't want them and why I can't understand why people want them in general. My wife and I are in complete agreement that they don't fit into our lives because we would rather focus on our careers, travel and our other interests than care for kids; we just really like our lives how they are. We have nieces and a nephew and while we like spending time with the kids they've never made us re-consider our decision. I'm glad you are enjoying parenthood, I've seen what happens when a parent clearly didn't want kids but went along with it and it's not fair to anyone in that situation. Chum Scandal posted:sounds like a p good thread tbh Yeah, it was great, the guy kept saying he was done arguing with the thread but then kept posting again and again in favor of not aborting kids with genetic diseases that will effect the quality and length of their lives.
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Lazyfire posted:I'm glad you are enjoying parenthood, I've seen what happens when a parent clearly didn't want kids but went along with it and it's not fair to anyone in that situation. To be fair, the wife and I married at 22, and we didn't think we could even have kids but then at 35 we had one. So we had our 20's free. My experience of parenthood is uncommon, I admit.
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Monkey Fracas posted:
That's the wait for a healthy, white newborn. Older, browner children are cheaper and easier to get a hold of.
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my ancestor survived evaporating water pools by developing legs and escaping to land, one of my ancestors tunneled underground to survive the meteorite apocalypse 65 million years ago, as a Viking my ancestor crushed his opponents with a giant hammer weapon and mated with a female waiting for him at home. Now, it is I - the manifestation of prior struggles - a genetic dead end about to watch Netlix
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