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First-term, known control freak PM breaks critical election promises, gets turfed for (presumably) his (female) deputy? If it happens, the irony might kill me. edit: Guardian Live Blog quote:Labor’s agriculture spokesman, Joel Fitzgibbon, sticking in the knife after the Nationals shocking showing in the Victorian election. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
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Graun posted:bikie fest down the front earlier, in which David Leyonhjelm unexpectedly invoked a penis. OK, I'm going to need more detail on this... can't find anything with a cursory search
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Dec 1, 2014 04:34
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SadisTech posted:OK, I'm going to need more detail on this... can't find anything with a cursory search Try turning safe search off.
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Dec 1, 2014 04:45
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quote:The DLP senator David Leyonhjelm has been out this morning doffing his helmet to the poor oppressed bikers of Australia. Tailoring messages to your audience is a stock standard part of professional politics.
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Dec 1, 2014 04:46
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Leyonjhelm is the LDP senator, not the DLP senator
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Dec 1, 2014 04:51
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Just quoting it from the blog, their mistake!
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Dec 1, 2014 04:52
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I'm pretty sure if we're speculating on future LNP leaders we have to consider the inherent paradox of Tony Abbott leading the party to victory at election and simply assume the new leader will be the absolute worst possible individual and as such Scott Morrison or Kevin Andrews Scotty '16
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Dec 1, 2014 05:05
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Scott's kinda tearing it up in estimates. That dumbass Nats senator jumped on a comment Scott made that people had been suggesting the closure of the SA production studios for years, by suggesting that meant it'd been on the table for a long time (years). Scott said "not at all, consultants suggested that was one way to save money and we fought hard against it." "Oh, so it was in the bottom drawer in your desk then?" "Well, Senator, why is it that we've had to reach into the bottom drawer? We need to have some way of dealing with the 250m of cuts passed down to us." cue Nats Senator never speaking again
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Dec 1, 2014 05:05
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Hahah I only just figured out Dorothy Dixer isn't an actual MP
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Dec 1, 2014 05:16
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cpaf posted:I'm pretty sure if we're speculating on future LNP leaders we have to consider the inherent paradox of Tony Abbott leading the party to victory at election and simply assume the new leader will be the absolute worst possible individual and as such Scott Morrison or Kevin Andrews "We don't comment on operational matters". EDIT - Also, what about Pyne? Myall fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Dec 1, 2014 05:17
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Orwellian Optimism posted:"We don't comment on operational matters". Pyne will be too busy campaigning to save his seat, let alone a ministry. Try to find a government that will risk a leadership position on somebody in a marginal.
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Dec 1, 2014 05:31
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Pyne is a smug fuckwit but he's still just a career politician like Joe Hockey or Julie Bishop; Scott Morrison is a genuine sociopath and demonstrably takes pleasure in loving people over like our dear PM
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Dec 1, 2014 05:33
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Jesus loving christ, Senator Birmingham is loving annoying. Thanks a loving lot, South Australia. I hope the ABC is cut out of the state completely.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:07
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Julie Bishop is being set up as the replacement. No one is trying to do anything with Turnball except put him in front of the public shooting gallery. Morrison wants to be PM like Gollum wants the ring, but part of the Party know he's a little too much like a dictator for the public to vote for. If/when One Term Tony's chief of staff goes away, his Prime Ministership will have a half life of hours. He's trying to angle for a new start in 2015. If he dosn't improve (and he won't), I expect there will be a challenge by mid-next year, 1-2 months after the budget.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:23
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Comstar posted:Julie Bishop is being set up as the replacement. No one is trying to do anything with Turnball except put him in front of the public shooting gallery. Morrison wants to be PM like Gollum wants the ring, but part of the Party know he's a little too much like a dictator for the public to vote for. Abbott has a large degree of protection due to the experience of the Labor party that they both witnessed and were a significant contributor to. This makes the LNP even more uncomfortable because they either sink with him or they break their promise of stable leadership.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:26
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Bob Ellis, is that you?
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Dec 1, 2014 06:26
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If Abbott gets rolled by Bishop the lesson he will take from it is that he allowed too many women in the cabinet.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:30
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Gough Suppressant posted:If Abbott gets rolled by Bishop the lesson he will take from it is that he allowed too many women in the cabinet. If Bishop becomes PM we have reached a point where JULIE BISHOP of all people is seen as the best leader of Australia. 
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Dec 1, 2014 06:36
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The Victorian libs are going to like the Feds even less. Daniel Andrews is following the federal governments example in releasing confidential cabinet documents from the previous government, specifically regarding east-west link.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:39
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Lid posted:If Bishop becomes PM we have reached a point where JULIE BISHOP of all people is seen as the best leader of Australia. She's not the leader we need right now, but the one Australia deserves.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:40
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If Julie Bishop becomes PM I will tear my lungs out of my body and hurl them at her.
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Dec 1, 2014 06:41
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If that conservative dyke is PM then I'll tear out my own rear end hole and throw it at her! Peg my entrails at her head!
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Dec 1, 2014 06:55
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Won't be the first set of lungs she has ignored
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Dec 1, 2014 06:55
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Free asbestos for everyone!
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Dec 1, 2014 07:05
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Decayed posted:Won't be the first set of lungs she has ignored 
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Dec 1, 2014 07:10
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kaguya posted:If that conservative dyke is PM then I'll tear out my own rear end hole and throw it at her! Peg my entrails at her head! This comment is entirely unfair to both sorts of dykes. Also I'm pretty sure she's straight. Horrible, awful and straight. Unmarried, intentionally barren, also she represented her husband during a dodgy Lord Mayor scandal so long ago that it really ceases to have any relevance to her politics today.... that said though if she becomes PM, ROYAL COMMISSION NOW. She's a breathtakingly hypocritical and terrible person who litigated mesothelioma sufferers to death but what she isn't and shouldn't be called is a dyke.
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Dec 1, 2014 07:10
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It kind writes itself for Clark and Dawes "Well circumstances were different when we were criticizing labor for having to change, compared to now." "Oh, how were they different?" "Well, we were in opposition"
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Dec 1, 2014 07:11
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Decayed posted:Won't be the first set of lungs she has ignored 
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Dec 1, 2014 07:12
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GoldStandardConure posted:If Julie Bishop becomes PM I will tear my lungs out of my body and hurl them at her. I don't see how she'd be any worse than Tone. Not better, but not worse either.
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Dec 1, 2014 07:13
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Amethyst posted:I don't see how she'd be any worse than Tone. Not better, but not worse either. She mightn't hate women as much.
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Dec 1, 2014 07:21
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Amethyst posted:I don't see how she'd be any worse than Tone. Not better, but not worse either. I've got enough for the both of them. See what hooman posted as to why I hate Bishop just a little bit more than Abbott. edit: the mesethelioma part, not the rest of it.
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Dec 1, 2014 07:33
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million dollar mack posted:It kind writes itself for Clark and Dawes This was basically the discussion just on the Drum. Human Suffering commissioner Tim Wilson was arguing you can't say the LNP are having problems like Rudd was because... the price of iron ore has dropped? 'Abloobloo, the poor libs aren't saying how bad the mess they were left is hard enough' I hate him so. He genuinely believes the budget/finances getting worse won't hurt the libs as 'that's the reallity'. Heard of the GFC, Tim? Farrkkkkiiiinnnnnnn Grrruuuuuuubbbbbbbssssss, Ms Speaker.
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Dec 1, 2014 07:46
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million dollar mack posted:It kind writes itself for Clark and Dawes "Your name is Tony is that right?" "That's right, glad to be here." "And you're a former Prime Minister of Australia?" "And one day will be again if the good people of Australia can turn the other cheek." "And you're Kevin?" "Hi, please let's zip this up soon." "Well I'll go as fast as I can, your topic tonight is the history of Australian leadership. Your first question: which female deputy leader ousted their parties leader who had been elected Prime Minister due to falling approval ratings, poor actions on climate change and budget issues?" *Bzzt* "Yes Tony?" "JULIA!" "I'm sorry that's not correct." *BZZT* "Kevin?" "Julie." "That's correct." "THAT'S WHAT I SAID!" "You said Julia." "No I said JuLIAR." "That's still not Julie." "They are when they're both liars who won't listen to the peoples calls for an ELECTION NOW." "I'm with Tony."
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Dec 1, 2014 07:53
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I actually think she's fairly competent. We don't want anyone competent steering the ship!
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Dec 1, 2014 07:59
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Sooo the forces of evil haven't stopped just because of some silly council decision oh no. The Bendigo Mosque must be STOPPED no you can't have a link I won't let you read the comments.The Hun posted:LOCAL residents believe a mosque planned for Bendigo could threaten their “safety and freedom”, a tribunal heard today. But that wasn't enough for the Hun today. In it's print and digital edition Rita Panahi decided we need to know where real misogyny comes from. Don't worry lads, you upstanding Anglo-Celts are safe. Because the enemy, predictably, is Islam. quote:Feminists ignore the real root of misogyny I could be wrong here, but I think Rita doesn't quite get the hang of intersectionality. It almost sounds like we should be abandon all thought of feminism at home because Islam. I'm not qualified to judge but it seems we're being asked to just shut up because the adults in charge don't want to deal with anything as long as someone out there can be used to avoid the question.
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Matthew Beet posted:I actually think she's fairly competent. We don't want anyone competent steering the ship! JULIAR BISHOP promised that they would never repeat Labor's backstabbing of the leaders VOTED BY THE PEOPLE. ELECTION NOW! Kill it before it gets started.
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Dec 1, 2014 08:07
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FGM isn't a Muslim problem, it's an African one. Christians, Muslims and Animists all do it, in majority-Christian and Muslim countries.
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Dec 1, 2014 08:21
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Fruity Gordo posted:FGM isn't a Muslim problem, it's an African one. Christians, Muslims and Animists all do it, in majority-Christian and Muslim countries. Yeah, the point is that Rita looked for an excuse to bash Australian feminists and found something cheap and nasty to bullshit with.
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Dec 1, 2014 08:28
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Fruity Gordo posted:FGM isn't a Muslim problem, it's an African one. Christians, Muslims and Animists all do it, in majority-Christian and Muslim countries. This is true to an extent, except that the cultural practice of FGM has spread in conjunction with Islam in many cases. It's practised to a surprising extent in South-East Asia (mainly Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei) and is associated with religious and cultural obligation. It's kinda like how male circumcision came to America as a religious practice, but arguably it's more of a cultural practice there now. e: but in any case, it's kinda absurd to suggest that Western feminists don't care about FGM... funnily enough, people are capable of caring about more than one thing at once. The Before Times fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Mithranderp posted:This is true to an extent, except that the cultural practice of FGM has spread in conjunction with Islam in many cases. It's practised to a surprising extent in South-East Asia (mainly Indonesia, Malaysia and Brunei) and is associated with religious and cultural obligation. It's kinda like how male circumcision came to America as a religious practice, but arguably it's more of a cultural practice there now. True. It just gets up my nose that it's so widespread in all religious groupings and predates Islam yet the line pushed is that it's a solely Muslim thing. Because Christians are awesome at women's liberation.
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