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Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
:h:Marxists are red.:h:
New Labour is blue.
Farage is purple.
And we are all screwed.


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The party is over.

January has flittered by, and now we're now having the hangover of the year, but what a party that was; Paris was under siege, Birmingham declared a caliphate, and Gideon got his cock out and drank his own piss.
We're in the last 100 days or so before the next election, so February promises more political rhetoric, soundbites and other assorted :clegg: as they clamour for votes. Also snow, so expect the usual "snowmageddon" coverage.

Oh, yeah, and the crassly commercialised Valentine's Day is coming up as well, I guess, if you can stomach it. If you have someone, enjoy it with them, if you don't, it's not worth killing yourself over you hideously ugly unlovable beast; contact your local Citizen's Advice Bureau or similar.

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How to cope with this government :h:Valentine's Day:h::

Courtesy of Oberleutnant, apologies to Kelly.

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:h:Thread Required Viewing:h:
Charlie Brooker's 2014 Wipe


Green Party Leader, Natalie Bennett Interview
Incredibly, she does the self-same thing in another interview.


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:h:Previous 2015 Threads::h:
January 2015 - We're gonna party like it's 1985

:h:Previous 2014 Threads::h:
December 2014 - Poorly Moderated by the 81st Most Powerful Person in the UK Media
November 2014
October 2014 - Papers please. Theresa May Edition.
September 2014 - The baby that saved Britain.
August 2014 - Bojo's Brilliant Buran Bazaar
July 2014 - Thread regular knows dogfucker from school.

:h:UKMT Little Box of Chocolates::h:
Oct 2010 - Jun 2014

:h:Related UK Threads::h:
UK Political Cartoons Megathread
Phone Hacking, Government Child Abuse Rings, And All Things British And Corrupt
English Defence League: the (white) pride of the UK
Independence Stay: A Holyrood Blockbuster (a Post-Ref ScotPol thread)
Trainchat - The failure of privatisation in the British Railway

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:h:UKMT Pillow Talk:h:
  • No Crisp-chat
  • No Boat-chat.
  • No Train-chat.
  • No #Gamergate (seriously WTF people? Take it to Games.)
  • No Jamie Oliver.
  • No Dorito-chat.
  • Full Communism.
Thread Flag:

Made by Guavanaut

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:h:31.01.15:h:

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Gideon, enjoying austerity.

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Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Feb 27, 2015

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



New thread's a day early but that's okay :toot:

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Mister Adequate posted:

New thread's a day early but that's okay :toot:

Due to cut-backs we've had to trim a day from January. Sort of like an anti-Leap year. Don't worry, you'll get it back once we're out of this global economic crisis that was Gordon Brown's fault.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
Let's Stay On The Road For A Longer February:
1440 More Minutes Being Employed. 86400 More Seconds. The Leap Days Doubled.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Greedy unions tried to stitch you up with a five day week. Vote Conservatives for a ten day week!

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Pesky Splinter posted:

Oh, yeah, and the crassly commercialised Valentine's Day is coming up as well, I guess, if you can stomach it. If you have someone, enjoy it with them, if you don't, it's not worth killing yourself over you hideously ugly unlovable beast; contact your local Citizen's Advice Bureau or similar.

Any man found to be without female company on the 14th will be rounded up and shot by Bojo's secret police on the charge of being a no good chicken choking terrorist.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010
It isn't February yet you lunatics

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
Copying this from the January thread:

So... PIP appeals process. How does that all work out, then?

Despite being iller than she's ever been my wife didn't qualify after being on DLA no problem for years.

Pretty high chance of winning appeals, isn't there?

Edit: the scores they've given her bear no relation to the things she actually said in the interview, it's like things have been recorded incorrectly

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010

Mister Adequate posted:

New thread's a day early but that's okay :toot:

No it isn't it's childish, because it's still January.

*I have to make the uk thread but someone else might do it so I better do it early because I'm a loser!!* is what I imagine somebody was thinking while typing the op, which is not worth reading anyway.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

stickyfngrdboy posted:

No it isn't it's childish, because it's still January.

*I have to make the uk thread but someone else might do it so I better do it early because I'm a loser!!* is what I imagine somebody was thinking while typing the op, which is not worth reading anyway.

I only did it coz I was bored. :(

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010

Pesky Splinter posted:

I only did it coz I was bored. :(

I'm only playing, don't be sad

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Anarchy in the UKMT as February thread starts on Jan 31st. Dates now meaningless as everything goes. Cats marry dogs, babies have babies, space and time condense into a singularity, Boris Johnson ascends to godhood on a stream of his own jizz.

This never would have happened if you'd waited 10 more hours, you madman.

(Or we could just carry on chatting as if nothing has changed and it doesn't matter.)

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

nothing has changed and it doesn't matter.
general_election.txt

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


An update for you all about the financial drama that hit my household last month.

Things are stabilised a little, and thank christ I have an interview or two lined up in the next week or two. However my housemate's woes continue. Barnet council in their infinite wisdom have decided to deny the existence of Belgium and claim that he has no legal right to reside in this country, despite being an EU citizen, working here for years and even working for the police at one point. Various legal advisors have been contacted, as well as the Belgian embassy.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Is your housemate Poirot?

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
Mea culpa. :negative:

(On a serious note, if anyone has issues or improvements for the OP layout, just say)
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Norfolk and Suffolk mental health Skype 'outsourcing' causes concern posted:

A health trust's proposal to help treat patients with depression by using "staff from lower wage countries" via Skype showed a lack of understanding of mental health care, say campaigners.

The idea was put forward in a report to the government by the mental health trust for Norfolk and Suffolk.
Unison, which represents mental health staff, said the plan failed to show an understanding of mental health care.

A trust spokesman said the proposal was looked at but has been dismissed.
The plan, drawn up towards the end of last summer, was contained in a successful application to the government by the Norfolk and Suffolk Foundation Trust (NSFT) to fund consultants to look into new ways of running the trust.

One option could see the NSFT become a mutual - a firm owned by its workers, as is the case with retailer John Lewis.
The report said the use of staff from outside the UK to help prevent depression and psychosis was a "new approach" to be explored.

Emma Corlett, spokeswoman for Unison at the trust, said: "Our view of the report is that it shows whoever did the application did not have a very clear understanding of the work frontline staff do or the way face-to-face therapy works.

"We want a skilled and well-paid workforce here and we should not be looking for outsourcing workers with poor working conditions and wages."

A spokesman for the Campaign for to Save Norfolk and Suffolk Mental Health said: "That NSFT could even consider Skype shows how little the board understands of the work of its staff and the needs of its service users."

Gary Page, chairman of NSFT, said the application included "a number of highly speculative ideas and thought gathering, with absolutely no commitment to any of those becoming initiatives that the Trust would wish to consider or put in place".

"For us, investigating a mutuals model is all about improving staff engagement. Being part of the Pathfinder project might help us fully understand the benefits of providing staff with the autonomy and ability to truly shape, and own, service delivery, while keeping our services local and responsive," he added.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31067204

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jan 31, 2015

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
it's going to happen regardless - the US/Canada are pushing ahead with telecommuting therapists, partly due to traveling distances and/or hostile weather, so Unison is picking a poor line of defense by arguing that it is fundamentally impossible.

rather, the plan will almost certainly be to triage cases into telecommutable/non-telecommutable, with local staff to start off (staff who are not in London are lower wage than staff who are, after all), then transitioning to contract outsourcing. Unison can make more hay on the triaging process (every patient lobby group considers their own conditions an especial snowflake) and on the outsourcing bit in general, rather than arguing against telecommuted therapy even when it is becoming more available in other parts of the anglosphere. You may as well wave a buggy whip.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe
That thatcher-mask cameron's kissing picture is a great mix of glorious and horrifying.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Pesky Splinter posted:

Mea culpa. :negative:

(On a serious note, if anyone has issues or improvements for the OP layout, just say)
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this article doesn't exist anymore :(

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



thehustler posted:

Copying this from the January thread:

So... PIP appeals process. How does that all work out, then?

Despite being iller than she's ever been my wife didn't qualify after being on DLA no problem for years.

Pretty high chance of winning appeals, isn't there?

Edit: the scores they've given her bear no relation to the things she actually said in the interview, it's like things have been recorded incorrectly

I don't know the details of how it is done, but yes, as I understand it PIP is basically running on the same system as other benefits began to under the auspices of Atos: Deny almost everything first time around without any regard to what was said, and actually do a proper look at things only on appeal. Filters out people who accept the initial ruling for one reason or another, and probably saves some money on people who die between their initial application and coming to review the appeal.

So yes, appeal, talk to CAB for advice, or direction to legal aid if you think that's necessary (doesn't sound like it would be in your case, but they helped my own DLA appeal go through smoothly a couple of years ago).

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Puntification posted:

this article doesn't exist anymore :(

It doesn't like me quoting it for some reason. Try this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31067204

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

What do the colours of our flag represent? Red is for the beautiful communist state we are all working towards as well as the blood of the people. Purple is monster munch? Yellow for the ???

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

notaspy posted:

What do the colours of our flag represent? Red is for the beautiful communist state we are all working towards as well as the blood of the people. Purple is monster munch? Yellow for the ???

They're all monster munch, also the Spanish republic.

Make up your own if you like!

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

Pesky Splinter posted:

It doesn't like me quoting it for some reason. Try this link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31067204

thanks!

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

notaspy posted:

What do the colours of our flag represent? Red is for the beautiful communist state we are all working towards as well as the blood of the people. Purple is monster munch? Yellow for the ???

"Guavanaut posted:

I pledge allegiance only to the flag of the Spanish Republic, with it's three bands representing the values common across all people: Flamin' Hot, Roast Beef, and most of all Pickled Onion.

Incidently:


[e]: Beaten.

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jan 31, 2015

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

ronya posted:

it's going to happen regardless - the US/Canada are pushing ahead with telecommuting therapists, partly due to traveling distances and/or hostile weather, so Unison is picking a poor line of defense by arguing that it is fundamentally impossible.

rather, the plan will almost certainly be to triage cases into telecommutable/non-telecommutable, with local staff to start off (staff who are not in London are lower wage than staff who are, after all), then transitioning to contract outsourcing. Unison can make more hay on the triaging process (every patient lobby group considers their own conditions an especial snowflake) and on the outsourcing bit in general, rather than arguing against telecommuted therapy even when it is becoming more available in other parts of the anglosphere. You may as well wave a buggy whip.

Of course it's 'possible', the argument is it's not fit for purpose and will fail the people it's meant to protect

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

baka kaba posted:

Of course it's 'possible', the argument is it's not fit for purpose and will fail the people it's meant to protect

The people it's meant to protect are the people who want to save money, and it'll do just fine.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
I'd be interested in the evidence base for remote 'talking therapies'.
You miss out on a huge amount of non-verbals if you're talking via Skype and it seems like a talking therapy is the exact situation you'd probably want to able to see someone's non-verbals.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Oberleutnant posted:

The people it's meant to protect are the people who want to save money, and it'll do just fine.

Wow cynical much? Where's this coming from??

Wolfsbane
Jul 29, 2009

What time is it, Eccles?

baka kaba posted:

Wow cynical much?

Hi, welcome the the UK. You must be new here.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead
He ain't heavy, he's my brother gently caress that worthless junkie bum lmao

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/homeless-tory-mp-brothers-desperate-5020416

quote:

Homeless Darren Offord has spent the last decade living on the streets and he has now blasted the government's record on homelessness
The desperate brother of a Tory MP who has been living on the streets for 10 years has begged the politician to help him end his nightmare.

“My brother is worth thousands. I think he gets ­thousands of pounds a year just for being the MP.” When asked if he had contacted Matthew, Darren replied, sobbing: “I’ve tried, I’ve tried.”

Darren’s life on the streets is in stark contrast to that of his ­brother. Matthew, 45, divides his time between his family home, a thatched £785,000 five-bed cottage in Boxford, Berks, and his ­constituency home in the capital.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
Just seen a friend of mine share UKIP's fb on her page. She's Hungarian and studying art history for free thanks to the SNP. I was sure she couldn't be serious, so I touched the poop, and got "their policies have merit" in response. Prepping Big List Of Why UKIP Policies Suck rear end, any contributions are welcome as I'll probably end up forgetting a few.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Coohoolin posted:

Just seen a friend of mine share UKIP's fb on her page. She's Hungarian and studying art history for free thanks to the SNP. I was sure she couldn't be serious, so I touched the poop, and got "their policies have merit" in response. Prepping Big List Of Why UKIP Policies Suck rear end, any contributions are welcome as I'll probably end up forgetting a few.

They'd happily murder Hungarians if they thought they'd get away with it.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Coohoolin posted:

Just seen a friend of mine share UKIP's fb on her page. She's Hungarian and studying art history for free thanks to the SNP.

Do you think she should feel obliged to vote for them?

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Pissflaps posted:

Do you think she should feel obliged to vote for them?

Not obliged, of course, although as a foreigner studying in Scotland for free because of them it certainly seems like the smart move. I'm more concerned about whatever kind of narrative it is that makes UKIP seem like a viable party to someone from Hungary.

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Coohoolin posted:

Not obliged, of course, although as a foreigner studying in Scotland for free because of them it certainly seems like the smart move. I'm more concerned about whatever kind of narrative it is that makes UKIP seem like a viable party to someone from Hungary.

Fidesz+Jobbik

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Pissflaps posted:

Do you think she should feel obliged to vote for them?

*scrolls left* Yeah, its a pissflaps post.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

baka kaba posted:

Wow cynical much? Where's this coming from??

I'm surprised you're not as cynical as the rest of us are, I'm sure you've been posting in these threads longer than I have and I'm one cynical motherfucker all thanks to this thread :smithicide:

e:sp

Microplastics fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Jan 31, 2015

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Better than being scrolled past.

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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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So how bad was the Green Party interview? I didn't actually see it get mentioned in any of the major papers other than Metro.

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