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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I cant believe theres a people looking at the last 3 games DICE have made and saying yes I want more
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 18:26 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 00:19 |
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Well I see this thread has already readied itself to be very disappointed.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2015 21:25 |
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Keiya posted:... an alpha is broken? Really? I never would have expected a build specifically made to find bugs in to be buggy! Remember how in Battlefield 3/4 the "betas" made sure that the finished product wasn't a buggy piece of poo poo? Good times.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2015 06:18 |
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AT-AT assault feels like if they took rush mode and decided to put the vehicles in the middle of the map.
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# ¿ Oct 8, 2015 19:30 |
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So I'd probably describe this game as aggressively mediocre. Maybe it's the lack of content I assume there will be more for launch but after Hardline who the gently caress knows. Hoth is really really badly designed. While it's not impossible for the Rebels to win it's stacked heavily against them. The first point is decently balanced, the second point is pretty much spawn camping the rebels and point three depends entirely on whether or not you've killed an ATAT. The Snowspeeders are really great but one of the ATATs is positioned so you can't actually use the tow cable without plastering yourself into the wall. The uplink stations restarting if the empire reflips them is insanely stupid considering how much loving health the Walkers have. Basically one team is playing TDM and one team is playing conquest. That's not a good idea. I'd probably have a better opinion if Hoth was just a very poorly designed map but DICE isn't really worthy of benefit of the doubt anymore. The gameplay is pretty fun I actually like that it's more similar to UT than another peek and shoot BF. The UI is atrocious, things like the mini map or a powerup pick up taking up three quarters of the screen are terrible decisions. Sedisp fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Oct 9, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:11 |
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Augus posted:My complaints so far: When the AT AT is stunned drive by it and press 4 at the prompt. DreamShipWrecked posted:What do you mean? I've had no problem doing them on the last point, even in close areas, because the game just takes over maneuvering for you. Every single time I've tried to hook the one closer to the cliff if it's still in the canyon I eat wall. It doesn't happen with the other walker or if it's moved past the cliff face.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:15 |
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Augus posted:I'm guessing that is Square in console pleb language? Whatever button you use for powerups I'd assume. Kazinsal posted:I am enjoying this game. I've been pretty much not ADSing except for long range head clicking, as I mostly play CSGO as my go to multiplayer shooter, and it's effective. The ion shots seem a bit ineffective against personnel, even compared to regular shots. Ion shots are for vehicles and popping shields.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:18 |
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Zaphod42 posted:
The soundtrack besides being Star Wars is kinda bad. It's just random music as opposed to any music that fits the fight.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:27 |
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AfroLine posted:the only bummer about the new battlefront game is that there's nothing related to the prequel films in the game Nice troll.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:34 |
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Zaphod42 posted:We started winning as imperials so it played the imperial march I dunno man works for me There is a big part of the match called the rest of it. During the rest of it it's just random music as opposed to say: https://youtu.be/b9K3RepZ__I?t=242
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 04:51 |
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I'm honestly curious about what people were expecting from this game because a lot of the complaints are "this isn't the game I remember from a decade ago" Post beta release there haven't been many people saying it's not like BF4/Battlefront. It's got lots and lots of problems that have nothing to do with that.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 06:45 |
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Sharkopath posted:the tie fighter is the fast ship and the a wing is the tough ship and that sounds backwards to me, but what do I know The Awing is the more maneuverable of the two rebel fighters. The Tie Fighter is the more of the two Imperial. That last part is backwards. The balance is supposed to be that the TIEs don't have a shield but it doesn't matter because you'll never get behind one in any of the rebel ships.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 06:48 |
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Sharkopath posted:When they made the demo for the new battlefront they didn't even make one of the game modes battlefront, which is wierd. I'd be willing to wager it's because supremacy doesn't have ATATs.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 16:51 |
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TotalHell posted:Other people think it is bad because it 1) doesn't feel like classic Battlefront and feels too much like Battlefield, 2) doesn't feel like Battlefield and feels too much like Battlefront or 3) feels like Call of Duty (this one is objectively wrong). Yes that's exactly what all the criticism is. You nailed it. What makes me love this thread is the amount of you who are still going to preorder this game because "it's just a beta" this has happened three DICE games in a row now. Wait a few days maybe?
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 17:41 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:That is very odd, I can't say I have experienced the same thing. Occasionally it will do a bullshit spawn but generally they put them well behind the front lines so you don't get camped. Imperials have a giant walking tank that doesn't give a single poo poo about the front lines. Kind of helps with the camping part.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 17:43 |
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Jimbot posted:Maybe the power up stuff wouldn't be so bad if you could see where they spawned on a mini-map or if they didn't disappear when someone picked them up (hero and vehicle ones notwithstanding). Hoth is basically the rebels scattering around looking for a power-up to deal with the walkers. Oh you got a shield? Well, sucks to be you. I still don't see how these can't be loadout items. They're powerful, yes, but everything else exists on cooldown timers, so I don't see why these abilities can't either. Yeah pretty much. For a game that is supposed to be casual friendly it really hates people who don't do things like memorize power weapon spawns.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 17:50 |
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:The rebels actually don't have as much of a disadvantage as bad goons think That's cool. The ATSTs aren't the problem. The imperials starting closer to the uplinks and getting an ATAT is! Trilin posted:Successfully cable-tying an ATAT should immobilize it until an imperial finds the giant scissors powerup. You have to do a counter QTE with a TIE interceptor.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 19:08 |
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JoshTheStampede posted:Yeah its only hard for the Rebels because the Empire basically wins stalemates since they are the timer. If the beta wasn't capped at level 5 and everyone had higher level unlocks, plus if everyone on both sides wasn't bad, it would be more even. Right now it's just that Empire wins if everyone is incompetent, which everyone is. That's kind of the crux of the problem. That and point two being an auto win for the Empire.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 19:19 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Do you know what Beta means? The fact that they aren't showing off what you can unlock shouldn't put you at ease.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 20:01 |
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Zaphod42 posted:BF4 beta didn't show us a ton of guns we could "unlock in the full version" either, but they were there when the game came out. And Hardline showed us all of them. I have no doubt there will be more than four but there isn't going to be many more. Maybe eight.
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2015 20:16 |
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Assuming I've done my math right the rebel default rifle is objectively worse than the Imperial one. Welp.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 02:01 |
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Flytrap posted:Storm Trooper rifles are capable of hitting things Not Canon/10. The Stormtroopers were missing on purpose in the first movie. They wanted the rebels to escape so they'd get the location of the base on Yavin IV. I'm sorry I know this.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 02:50 |
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Idk what more they can do at that point though, the ATATs are already flashing blue and the objective has clearly changed to state "Shoot the AT-AT". You can lead an idiot to an objective, but you can't make him win Things they could do: 1. Caps interrupt ywings not start them over. 2. Imperials can't use the turrets or change their angle of fire. 3. Lower the walkers health or adjust how much damage certain weapons do to them. The Radar Dish guns do 2 percent damage per shot and you are incredibly vulnerable in them. Fun fact you can get a maximum of 2-3 ywings on the second point by holding them the entire time. It's an incredibly short phase. I actually like the game but Hoth is an unbalanced mess. Sedisp fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Oct 10, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 04:44 |
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PantsOptional posted:Just had a round as Rebels where we destroyed one walker before the end of the second point and left the remaining walker with literally one regular blaster bolt's worth of HP. Is this sorcery? An Orbital strike drops an ATAT to 30%
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 05:08 |
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RFC2324 posted:I thought people loved metro, last time I played bf3(I think its bf3?) it was hard to find a server that WASN'T metro, so... It was the easiest map to rank up on. It was the worst designed map in the game but they used it for the beta.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 06:34 |
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Trilin posted:Oh my god it all makes sense now. Hoth is metro. Hopefully. Game might be good if Hoth is metro as opposed to shanghai.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 07:54 |
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Famethrowa posted:Without the interesting prequel guns it plays like a low effort movie tie-in. Did we watch the same movies? The prequels don't really have any other guns besides bad guy rifles good guy rifles and pistols.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 18:22 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:But what is the difference between having a rocket launcher you constantly carry around on an off hand and having one that appears when you pick up the card? ....Really? One you have access to whenever you need it and one you have access to if it's there since the powerups are random. You are fanboying really hard about this game.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 18:34 |
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Ciaphas posted:I didn't play long. Does it have a higher or lower time-to-kill than here? It being relatively high here is at least partially what's making me like it, I can't stand one-shot-dead shooters. One on ones can last a decent amount of time if you are good at moving. People who play it like an ADS shooter die much faster. CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Lower. As in you die faster in BF4 so that's probably not what you are looking for. Not a really good comparison. In a vacuum the TTK in BF4 is significantly lower than Battlefront. Sedisp fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Oct 10, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 19:25 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I have heard a lot of people like Dirty Bomb for class based shooters, not quite my thing but I can see the appeal I assumed you referring to the smart rocket when you said pick up. My mistake.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 19:30 |
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So to anyone who is crazy enough to think Hoth is good balance I present you the following counterpoints! 1. The cliff ATAT on the final point cannot be towcabled unless it makes it past the cliff. It only makes it past the cliff if you get enough Ywings on the last point. I have tried this multiple times with the little snow speeder right smack dab in the middle of the QTE. 2. Tie interceptors take no damage from snow speeder cannons. Tested this with a friend to make sure I wasn't missing. 3. Getting shot once while in the tow cable QTE immediately throws the QTE in one direction or the other. Dunno if it's recoverable once the bar narrows. 4. The ATAT tokens are less than a minute for respawn.
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 19:58 |
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I can no longer buy personal shields it adds them to my pool but they are unusable and reset to zero when I'm out of the match. lol
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# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 20:09 |
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:What's wrong with that? The QTE is piss easy and if there was no way to stop it short of destroying the untargetable speeder outright it'd be a joke Throwing it off is fine making it an instant fail is not. Especially since getting the speeder requires the rebels to run into either the open field or the middle of the map. Both of which can be covered by ATAT fire. There is also a good gap between the CD for it's radar cloak and it's uptime. Fire a torpedo during this or get good and just dumbfire the interceptors cannons. Not like it can actually dogfight you! You really seem to want it to be a one way steam roll. Sedisp fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Oct 10, 2015 |
# ¿ Oct 10, 2015 20:39 |
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PunkBoy posted:
Well guess that probably confirms this list of guns: http://symthic.com/games/battlefront/beta-weapon-charts.php
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 22:27 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Doesn't make sense for that to be a complete list though, how would they get the data Data mining is a thing.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 22:38 |
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Trilin posted:At the same time, google can't really turn up a comprehensive list of weapons. A lot of the leaks happened a couple months ago during the alpha. It's possible that the data was better hidden (not included at all) during the beta. I doubt they would bother to include a partial amount in that case. Especially when a bunch on that list are clearly still being hosed with.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 22:50 |
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Frog Act posted:holy lol what a terrible design decision. Also I don't see anyone talking about this in here but PC will not have any VOIP support whatsoever: Amount of times I was glad to have voip in a DICE game: 0
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2015 21:23 |
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Full list of weapons/Star cards: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GLIU0KTIqI1Z-LaIDRwN8h9dUiul_GdVRmBa7IhVUU0/preview 12 weapons. Bowcaster is a star card.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2015 04:53 |
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Snatch Duster posted:But it is not. You know how I know this? It only has 20 vs 20 on the pc. Hasn't been able to make fun 64 player maps since BC2.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2015 20:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 00:19 |
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Snatch Duster posted:But not on loving Hoth. I don't think any of the Battlefront games have managed to capture what Hoth is supposed to feel like. Because it's a one sided massacre. You can't really capture the desperation in a shootmans multiplayer video game.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2015 20:50 |