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I get that there's a serious problem with rape being really hard to prosecute because no matter what the guy can just go "uh no that didn't happen" and a lot of the time that's all there is to it because the cops are like "well he said it didn't happen, sorry v v", but are we really at the point where you can just tweet that your ex did something and it's Automatically True for political reasonsLike, arson is also hard to prosecute but if my ex gets a bunch of Internet attention and I tweet that she burned down a house once, people won't get actually really mad at the concept of someone not believing me
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ArmZ posted:Yes because status quo is its automatically false for political reasons. You're probably trolling me, in that you appear to be saying we should automatically believe one person because other people will automatically believe the other person, but there is a good point in the post regardless: These kinds of accusations are like any other kind of accusation that doesn't have any kind of proof behind it in that everyone decides who they think is Probably Right based on their innate biases and also who they liked better before they read the details, and won't really change their mind under any circumstances. Hence some people will accept the tweet as gospel and some will immediately dismiss it. It'd be the same if she said he keyed her car or refused to give her back her favorite blanket after they broke up, but people are paying more attention to it than those hypotheticals because obviously the stakes are way higher.
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Unrelated, Stoya's Verge column is bad like this one "Dear Stoya, I have a very common insecurity regarding my sexual stamina. Do you have any sex advice you would like to dispense via your sex advice column?" "Instead of answering your question, I'm going to complain at length about how porn is shot. Blah blah blah blah... hm? Oh, looks like I'm done complaining about porn and never answered your question but the column is almost over, so instead I'm going to assume that you don't know what foreplay is. Try foreplay."
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also while clicking back in the thread I saw someone mention Judaism as though it were relevant and sure enough that poster was Mange Mite Set your watch by that poo poo
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Assfingeringlair posted:Its like a law or something. Same deal with some girl I dated for a while. I refused to piss on this girl and it directly led to ending the relationship because "You arent considering my needs even if it makes you uncomfortable". I mean, lack of bedroom chemistry is a legit reason to end a relationship but wow phrasing it like that is super 
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Oh hey, you showed up  Tell me how religion is relevant to this case, please and thank you
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Sethex posted:Feminism is a mechanism of capitalism meant to increase labour participation: I dunno, weren't the Soviets and Mao-era PRC pretty big on women wearing the same shapeless overalls and doing the same manufacturing poo poo as men?
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Dec 1, 2015 16:47
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Mange Mite posted:Goldberg defends noted jewish child rapist roman polanski hmmm you have a serious problem
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Dec 1, 2015 21:13
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this_is_hard posted:Yes, and it makes you both clueless and an awful person. I hope this helps, buddy!! I understand that there are often many complex reasons why rapes go unreported including a well-deserved mistrust of the police force but this is a dumb position to take. If someone kills your kids or breaks into your house, you are a victim, but it is still your responsibility to report the crime and aid in the investigation.
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Dec 1, 2015 21:30
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this_is_hard posted:No, not really. Saying it is the responsibility of the rape victim to prevent further attacks from the rapist is shifting the burden of responsibility from the perpetrator to the victim. Being raped is an incredibly traumatic and damaging experience and nearly every individual reacts differently. Choosing not to go forward and deal with even more trauma of a trial, cross examination, public scrutiny (just look at this thread!) is most certainly a factor why some do not. No, it's essentially the same line of thinking that is "if you want the guy who killed your kids to be caught you need to tell the cops about it" Yes, reporting a rape and dealing with the trial etc etc etc is difficult and traumatic. That means we need to increase the support structure and resources to help rape victims deal with the system, not that we need to encourage them to just not tell anyone.
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Dec 1, 2015 21:37
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ArmZ posted:no one is saying that I don't know how else to parse "expecting victims to report crimes is shifting responsibility to them which is bad and wrong" though
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Dec 1, 2015 21:40
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this_is_hard posted:nope, because rape victims have historically suffered a unique stigma. Relatives/associates of a murder victim have not. I hope this helps! so let's ease the stigma and increase support systems and encourage them to report things like I said, not just close our eyes and say "LA LA LA" as loud as possible
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Dec 1, 2015 21:41
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this_is_hard posted:no one is closing their eyes and saying "la la la" can you please explain how telling victims they don't have to report crimes committed against them is not doing that please and thank you fake-edit: I HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!!! loquacius fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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Dec 1, 2015 21:43
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this_is_hard posted:no one has said that victims shouldn't report rape. what has been said, tho, is that doing so or not doing so does not somehow make them 'at fault' that their rapist has raped someone else. i hope this helps!! no one is saying that, and I very honestly and sincerely hope this helps e: I guess City of Tampa is saying that but yeah it's certainly not MY point, I hope this helps!!!!!
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Dec 1, 2015 21:49
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Don Tacorleone posted:Arguing against reporting the rapes is outright perpetuating rape culture in the modern patriarchy What if you do so in the hope that this helps?
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Dec 1, 2015 22:02
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spacetoaster posted:Do you feel the same if we replace the word rape with any other crime? What about just an assault, or robbery, or whatever? He already went over this, rape victims get antagonized more than other victims, so obviously they don't have to report anything and we need to move directly to the Minority Report method of investigation e: almost forgot to say I hope this helps, that was a close one 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:08
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this_is_hard posted:Did I hurt your feelings? No, I just thought your catchphrase was funny, I hope this helps e: what did you say that would have hurt my feelings, I actually can't tell
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Dec 1, 2015 22:16
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mr. mephistopheles posted:having never experienced it myself, i too feel comfortable telling a victim what the most rational and correct course of action is and judging them accordingly if they don't do what i imagine i would do in this hypothetical scenario which will likely never happen to me personally i too think that nobody should ever have any opinions about anything other than their own lived experiences. I am qualified to have this opinion because I once tried having an opinion about something else and an Internet person snarked at me about it 
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Dec 1, 2015 22:31
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mr. mephistopheles posted:having an opinion and telling a rape victim they're handling their rape incorrectly to meet your standards of whether or not they're worth taking seriously are different things you loving sociopath good thing I never did the second one then, dodged a bullet
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Dec 2, 2015 02:00
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Immortan posted:Okay but how is this relevant to porn he's talking about Chinatown hth
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Dec 2, 2015 17:23
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wiffle ball bat posted:counterintuitively tho bdsm ppl are mentally healthier than everybody else according to science Is "science" the name of your dominatrix or something
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Dec 2, 2015 19:25
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Get Help Mange Mite What do the surveys say about the mental health of people who constantly post online about how much they hate Jews
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Dec 2, 2015 19:35
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Mange Mite I don't care if the therapists people keep referring you to have Jewy-sounding names, you should still go to them and pay them money for therapy
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Dec 2, 2015 19:35
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Mange Mite posted:lol its like the batsignal I was already posting in this thread, scroll up on that page you spaz Yes, the guy who constantly posts about how much he hates Jews is the mentally healthy one, and the one who tells him he needs to get therapy is the weird obsessive 
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Dec 2, 2015 19:44
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Mange Mite posted:the fact that you recognize and stalk other posters to defend the honor of your tribe is pretty strange, honestly I was posting in a thread and you came into it to make a post about how Jews defend James Deen because he is Jewish I told you you are weird and need to get therapy How do you parse this situation as me "stalking" you to "defend the honor of my tribe" answer: you are a crazy person and you need therapy
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Dec 2, 2015 19:46
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I've never even seen a loving Roman Polanski movieMange Mite posted:i honestly dont recognize or care about the names of any posters besides dad gay so what so yeah keeping enemies lists is stalkery imo but if that's true then how do you know I keep getting mad at you for making anti-Semitic posts unless... oh no *glances nervously out window*   
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Dec 2, 2015 19:49
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for real though Mange Mite if you want me to stop giving you poo poo for hating Jews, just write posts about something other than how much you hate Jews, it's not difficult Like your favorite books or today's weather or those dastardly lizard people or whatever
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Dec 2, 2015 19:51
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we're prominent in socialism too, we are a versatile people if nothing else Dr. Tim Whatley posted:mark zuckerburg Mark Zuckerberg is not old 
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Dec 2, 2015 20:00
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Professor Shark posted:All prejudice aside, reading a Raymond Chandler novel is infinitely more entertaining than watching Chinatown, why have a MacDonalds hamburger when you could have a good steak? In this case the steak is a good 300 pages long and the hamburger's running time is 131 minutes; that probably has something to do with it
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Dec 2, 2015 20:18
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Mange Mite posted:The Big Sleep (Vintage Crime/Black Lizard) I will take a look at this as soon as I finish The Martian, and remark to anyone who asks that this book was recommended by my best Internet friend, Mange Mite 
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Dec 2, 2015 20:23
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ArmZ posted:They came to the US from Germany and Hungary and then invented the atomic bomb. pretty sweet. I am legit caremad that we used the atom-bomb on Japan instead of Germany, think of the irony that could have been
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Dec 2, 2015 20:39
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Mange Mite posted:i also dream of genociding my ancestral enemies. epic lols You certainly dream of genociding somebody Germstore posted:Germany had already surrendered by the time the bomb was ready. I'm aware, it just would have made for a better story Really though Inglorious Basterds was how WW2 should have ended
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whoflungpoop posted:I think they get it from that book that yall wrote about how yall's founding father led armies to explicitly commit genocide against the enitre populations in the levant and take their poo poo e: misread this post, new reply enclosed Yet another book written by Jews and used by non-Jews as justification for murdering people, same old story
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Dec 2, 2015 22:01
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Mange Mite posted:what was the original reply aren't you curious "no, most of them loved that book actually they wrote fanfiction of it and everything" As you can see, it was based on a misunderstanding of what he was responding to and didn't make sense in context, necessitating a rewrite. I'm flattered you're such a big fan of my posting that you even watch the deleted scenes
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Dec 2, 2015 22:10
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Mange Mite posted:the script deserves a remake then Have any requests regarding the optimal ethnicity/religion of the director of this remake or do the Illuminati have carte blanche?
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Dec 2, 2015 22:22
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Likewise goonsires Sheep-Goats posted:Yeah I mean we wrote a book glorifying our previous insane genocides and yeah it probably is true and yeah nobody today is sorry about it but that's no reason to look down on us. "this book in which a guy turns a staff into a snake, somebody turns into a pillar of salt because she looked in a direction, and the world stops in its orbit to help prove a point is probably true"
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Dec 2, 2015 22:28
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Yeah come to think of it I think it's probably more likely that Jack Nicholson raped a teen at some point in his life than that he didn't Just look at the guy
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Sheep-Goats posted:Do you personally believe the nation of Israel has an either earthly or heavenly mandate to establish a home for Jewish people and that that mandate is paramount? I have no idea what this question has to do with anything currently under discussion, but no, mandates of such kind are not a real thing in any meaningful sense, why do you ask 
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Stinky_Pete posted:In conclusion, people get fired for a lot less at normal jobs, so what happened this week was roughly what should have happened, and Jews are good at raping while playing the victim. You stay classy, GBS
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