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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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A misanthrope posted:

:agreed: with one simple change they could have made hateful white men even ANGRIER



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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Tumble posted:

Does Ghostbusters actually have lore and extended universe stuff? I've never met a Ghostbuster fan who knew anything about Ghostbusters other than that it was a super fun movie and Egon may have hosed a toaster.

Like Star Wars and Star Trek fans... when somebody is a huge fan of those things they have encyclopedic knowledge of how esoteric poo poo functions and the history behind it.

My friend was a "huge Ghostbusters fan" and that just meant she watched the movies a bunch whenever it rained, and occasionally dressed up like Venkman.

We've got a Ghostbusters thread in CD where all the super GB nerds hang out and post about the obscure instruments used in the cinematic score and poo poo like that:

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I've been reading a few GB articles and just learned all about this crazy bitch of a musical instrument:


That's an Ondes Martenot, one of the earliest electronic musical instruments invented by Maurice Martenot in 1928. GB composer Elmer Bernstein used one of them to get the spooky theremin-like noises for the score in the opening library scene.

Here's one in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0aflcF0-ys

There's also GB cosplayers who recreate screen-perfect replicas of the proton packs and all the other GB equipment with exactly correct labels and sound effects and lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AzeY-kGbQ
The original prop makers threw together the proton packs out of random junk they had lying around the props studio but nerd fans have worked out exactly which parts were used so they can build exact replicas.

Did you know that the Ghostbusters all wore a Seiko M516 Voice Note Watch as part of their costume?

Thanks to all the Ghostbusters cosplayers trying to buy them up those watches now sell for thousands of dollars on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEIKO-M516-Ghost-Busters-Carbon-Fiber-Case-GhostBusters-Movie-Watch-/331767482866

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Applewhite posted:

What's another movie that was remade with female leads?

There's a few in various stages of pre-production:
Oceans 11
Roadhouse
Blade
Blade Runner
21 Jump Street

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Lasher posted:

They're re-making Aliens with a dude in the role of Ripley.

Are they also going to be redesigning the xenomorphs and facehuggers so that they're not penetrating and impregnating their victims but .... uh, whatever the opposite of that would be in this context?

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Applewhite posted:

Groundhog's Day.

Co-written and directed by Harold Ramis, who also co-wrote Ghostbusters. He also wrote Animal House, Caddyshack and Stripes and directed National Lampoon's Vacation.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Mange Mite posted:

Didnt they already remake that with a woman

No, Tom Cruise is a man.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Junior Jr. posted:

So now we're not getting one, but six reboots with female leads? Is there a slang for that now? I don't know...'fe-boot' maybe?

Those are only the first 6 I found in my google search, I have no idea how many more there might be.

And I believe the term is "shemake"

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Funky See Funky Do posted:

No, really. Do they have trailers for trailers now? Like "Coming this March! The trailer for the new movie coming out in December!"

Yeah they've been doing teaser trailers or pre-launch campaigns before the actual trailer comes out for decades now. Here's one from 1978:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65GVp8fErGI

These days the actual trailers are such big news (or the production houses try to convince everyone that they're big news) that they tease the trailer release dates

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Ah ha ha ha, people are already getting tattoos of stuff from the new Ghostbusters film and tweeting photos at Paul Feig saying "Don't make me regret this!"

https://twitter.com/spacecoastGBs/status/698699819502727168
https://twitter.com/paulfeig/status/698701649867571200
That's the tiny tiny little sticker on the new Ghostbuster motorbike:



And Feig is trolling the poo poo out of the whiny fans

https://twitter.com/aMbOoLaNcE717/status/698990849057759232
https://twitter.com/paulfeig/status/698993804246958081

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Feb 19, 2016

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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JediTalentAgent posted:

Pixels probably flopped despite making some money but it also seemed like it was on the 'worst of 2015' movie lists of last year, too.

$88m budget, $78m domestic box office. A terrible, forgettable flop.


JediTalentAgent posted:

Supernatural/Sci-fi Comedies seem to be very difficult to pull off successfully on both fronts trying to do the formula of 'team gets put together, fights menace, saves world'.

List of sci-fi comedies and horror comedies. It's real sad to go through those lists and see how many of the films I enjoyed struggled at the box office. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure only made $40m domestically but that was off a $10m budget. Idiocracy was only released in 140 theatres and made less than half a million, but later made $9 million in DVD rentals. Army of Darkness only made $11.5m domestically and barely made its budget back. Shaun of the Dead only cost $6m to make but only made $13m domestically.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Tato posted:

I'm the girl in the back trying to escape this misery



"I wanted He-Man!"

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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The Tao Jones posted:

I like Kristen Wiig's facial expression. Look at her. She knows.

You can see Wiig putting less and less effort into smiling until she just stopped pretending. McCarthy's smile turned into a horrific snarl.




Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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steinrokkan posted:

Why are these clowns visiting 40 year olds in hospital for christs sake

Well these other guys did it and the media gave them some really positive response ...



Etc etc

Of course those guys are from movies which are already popular so their fans really got a huge kick out of them visiting, plus their films had already been in cinemas so they didn't have anything to gain except making their fans happy. But a bunch of actors from a film that's a long way from release dropping in and putting on some fake smiles in the vicinity of sick kids? Yeah that's not going to look so good.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Microwaves Mom posted:

I'd argue that the one who plays female eegon knows too. Look at that poo poo eating grin.

Shegon is awesome. :colbert:


Bacon Terrorist posted:

Yeah, this and the dance sequence are what concern me a lot.

If the evil ghost had made all those soldiers and police do the Thriller dance or Beyoncé's Single Ladies then it might be pretty awesome but I doubt we'll get that. I guess there's a slight chance we might get Gangnam Style??

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Why isn't it red?

It's referencing the stripes on the new uniforms

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

why aren't those regulation safety orange??????????

Maybe ghosts are colourblind??

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Professor Shark posted:

I read an article that was in response to the hospital visit PR stunt, which generated so much bad press that the hospital had to plead with Twitter to please be nice, that accused anyone who thought the PR stunt was bad of just hating women and could not get over the fact that the movie is an all female cast

Their other PR stunt was trying to jump on the GIRL POWER bandwagon

https://twitter.com/melissamccarthy/status/636159256413212672


.... which lead to a bunch of articles over the next two days talking about how it was empowering and it shut down their haters but as far as I can tell it never came up again.

Also 50 women on a production with a budget of $150m+ is still just a tiny tiny percentage of the total number of people who would be working on the film.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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According to the Wikipedia article for the movie the main antagonist will be "Neil Casey as Rowan, a mysterious evil powerful demon"

I looked that guy up and his homepage just scream professionalism: http://notneilcasey.net/


Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Solice Kirsk posted:

Well, in the end they still need to make a movie, and if it was left up to women it would be 6 hours long, include a huge ice cream budget, and would be all about their periods or shoes or whatever else women talk about all the damned time.

I'll have you know that the film was written by a woman. Katie Dippold also wrote 'The Heat' which just happened to be directed by Paul Feig and starred Melissa McCarthy so the new Ghostbusters film should be pretty similar to this (except with some science/supernatural references):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-KKx0lcn2A

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Ahundredbux posted:

i wonder if they've gotten some secret hate mail or backlash or something because I sure as gently caress haven't seen anyone have a problem with the cast being all women

People started a bunch of online petitions
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-the-ghostbusters-reboot
https://www.change.org/p/paul-feig-and-hollywood-in-general-stop-them-from-making-ghostbusters-3
https://www.change.org/p/sony-pictures-say-no-to-an-all-female-ghostbusters
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tell-sony-no-on-paul-feig-for-ghostbusters-3
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-paul-feig-ruining-ghostbusters.html

Also they petitioned for the return of Ecto Cooler
https://www.change.org/p/coca-cola-sony-bring-back-ecto-cooler-for-the-new-ghostbusters-film
https://www.change.org/p/hi-c-with-the-filming-of-the-new-ghostbusters-movie-bring-back-the-ectocooler
https://www.change.org/p/minute-maid-bring-back-ecto-cooler-2

They also made a petition demanding Krispy Kreme sell the GB themed donuts in the UK
https://www.change.org/p/krispy-kreme-sell-the-30th-aniverssary-ghostbusters-themed-doughnuts-in-the-uk

Welp, looks like they've got their priorities all sorted out

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Ahundredbux posted:

that looks like a total of like a thousand people at most lol

This petition for the town of Regina, Canada to build a Deadpool statue got more signatures than all the GB petitions put together.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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RoosterChief posted:

Which one is classed as "shegon"?

The one who looks like cartoon Egon

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Applewhite posted:

I'm gonna go ahead and take the side that when a kid dying in the hospital asks to meet the Ghostbusters, he's talking about Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson because that's the movie he saw and the characters he identified with. To bring him four women from a film he's never seen and tell him "here are the Ghostbusters!" seems like a cruel bait and switch.

None of the people in that hospital actually asked to meet the Ghostbusters, the hospital said it was a huge surprise for the patients.

I'd say the studio's PR team just rang the hospital and set it up purely as a photo op.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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A misanthrope posted:

well yeah that's what all these hospital visits are -- photo ops

except for johhny depp, who i guess is always going to hospitals and schools dressed as captain jack out of the goodness of his own heart

Somewhat ironically, the one celebrity exception to the rule is Bill Murray since he randomly hangs out with fans just for the hell of it

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Applewhite posted:

The sad thing is, Robocop actually could have benefitted from a remake. The original was low budget as poo poo. The scene where he's seeing through the wall with his infra red vision doesn't even use an infra red camera effect. If you watch the scene it's actually a man in a suit painted with the infra red colors.

The film was pretty low budget (only $13m) but that's just how they did the infrared FX back then. The thermal vision in Predator was created by adding colours to the negative film images in post production, in a similar way that the 'computer' effects were done in the original Tron. The fake 3D digital map in Escape From New York was done by painting a model of the city all black, putting fluorescent edges on the buildings and filming it under a blacklight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE9t52WcvWA

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Someone must have caused them to miss. We must have been stabbed in the back, by an intruder.

Females!! :argh:

But yeah, Ghostbusters has always been about how the nerdy guys with bad social skills, lovely attitudes towards women and a resentment for authority figures are the real heroes who would fix everything and save the girl if everyone else would just come to their senses and listen to them. There'd been a period in the 40s and 50s where scifi films had scientists as the heroes but that gradually changed during the 60s and 70s to a point where the scientist characters became evil mad scientists and the action guys had to step in to spoil their villainous schemes.
Ghostbusters is a action film where Venkman can say BACK OFF MAN, I'M A SCIENTIST and for the first time in decades that actually means something again.



TheWeepingHorse posted:

I have a friend who worked on the Robocop remake. It was hilarious to hear how obviously terrible the finished product was going to be. The director began as an overconfident artiste, but as the production progressed, and as it became clear that it wasn't coming together, he would shut himself more and more away to micromanage smaller and smaller aspects of the movie. He delegated larger and larger chunks of the actual moviemaking to underlings.

Apparently a similar thing happened on the Super Mario Bros film where things kept getting more and more out of control and the schedule kept getting extended to the point where Dennis Hopper was kept there for 17 weeks when he was only supposed to be there for 5. The co-directors became more and more distant to the rest of the crew and less communicative but kept getting obsessed over tiny details.
Here's a good article about that horrible mess

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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reallivedinosaur posted:

I think the Super Mario Bros movie is loving fantastic.

Bob Hoskins would violently disagree with you. :v:
He had such a horrible loving time making that movie that he got hosed up drunk with John Leguizamo on set every day.

Mange Mite posted:

The costume designer for this should be shot

The whole "glasses + paint spattered overalls = quirky girl character" thing is so old that Not Another Teen Movie parodied it.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 23, 2016

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Gammatron 64 posted:

Ghostbusters and Back to the Future are probably my favorite movies ever. I don't think there should be any remakes or sequels to them period.

Robert Zemeckis has said there won't be a BTTF reboot until he and Bob Gale are both dead and even then he'll instruct his estate to try and block it.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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The Wizard of Oz, Ben Hur, The Maltese Falcon, Some Like It Hot, De Palma's Scarface, Carpenter's The Thing, Kaufman's Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Cronenberg’s The Fly were all remakes of earlier films and they're some of the best films ever made. They became the 'classic' version and many people don't even realise there were earlier versions.
The recent remakes of Ocean's 11, 3:10 To Yuma and True Grit were improvements on the originals according to many fans.

Most people agree that the 2012 Dredd movie was better than the 1995 movie but the Stallone version at least made a profit at the box office when the Karl Urban version was a flop. :(

I think the recent Conan The Barbarian remake was one of the worst. Just a lovely, cheap film.

Oh and there's a new Ben Hur remake coming out later this year, just what audiences were crying out for. :suicide:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Gonzo the Eggman posted:

The difference between this:



And this:



Is that Captain America is more likely to be recognised, regardless of who's playing it, than, say, a bunch of women dressed in jumpsuits.

Chris Pratt and Chris Evans made a Super Bowl bet and the loser had to visit a childrens hospital of the other's choice in full costume. Evans won the bet but he still put the costume on and went and visited the kids, as did Pratt.







And here's Pratt visiting a kid who knows his Lego film better than he does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHVNuIC-z9Q

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

Chris Pratt seems genuinely nice and cool

Yeah there's tons of photos of him visiting kids hospitals


It's not all smiles but you can see he's giving his all


Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Feb 25, 2016

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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I think he might have ADHD but he makes it work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR-R_xH0riE

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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504 posted:

Assuming this movie follows the same basic ideas as the original, why would a group of highly educated scientists hire a complete fucken idiot to run the paperwork side of their company?

Is it because he's hot? So it's funny?

Because they have so little money they can't afford someone competent? That's why the original Ghostbusters had to settle for a lovely brokedown building and a lovely brokedown car.
Edit: also because Ray was a giant manchild but that might also apply here.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Professor Shark posted:

Yeah, "Built-in Audience" is an actual thing and it just means that studios can spend less money and talent while expecting a larger return because people already love the novel, the toys, the series, whatever

The director on John Carter was such a gigantic fan of Edgar Rice Burroughs' Barsoom series that he (allegedly) assumed that the character still had wide public recognition and he held the studio back from adding stuff like "From the author who created Tarzan!" from the ad campaigns

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Applewhite posted:

I could go visit random kids in the hospital and justify it the same way.

"What, are you saying I shouldn't visit sick kids and try to cheer them up?"

There's actually a whole bunch of cosplayers worldwide who dress up and visit kids in hospital:




They have their heart in the right place but I'm not sure that super creepy DeVito-style Penguin was an entirely appropriate choice for visiting sick kids, or Christian Bale Batman. "GET WELL SOON. I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS."


There was a guy in Baltimore who dressed up as Batman and visited kids in hospital for 14 years but he got killed in a car accident last year :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JyIbCaQHyI

Solice Kirsk posted:

edit:
To take it even further, the kids don't care that Chris Pratt or Chris Evans was visiting them either, they cared that the Captain America or Star Lord they know from movies was visiting them.

Even the kids who were way too young to know anything about the characters loved that those goofy fun guys came to visit them

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Feb 25, 2016

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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A misanthrope posted:






#notmyghostbusters

We've been bitching about this poo poo over in CD:

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Some nerds (gently caress, most nerds) have made a safe little pillow fort in their psyche built out of nostalgia for the cartoons and TV shows and films they watched as kids and will strenuously oppose anything which might make them reassess those happy memories, even by accident. Bitching about a new adaptation is pretty much a defensive reflex action at this point.

Edit: the original meaning of 'nostalgia' was ‘acute homesickness’, etymologically from the Greek nostos ‘return home’ + algos ‘pain’.

The Cameo posted:

It's part of the confirmation bias that has become more and more apparent as social networks have consumed more of how people interact with the internet on a daily basis. It's much easier now, more than ever, to avoid opinions you don't like through "muting" and blocking them from reaching your eyes/ears, leading to circular thinking and eventually concluding with nigh-militant opinions on completely pointless things like the success/importance of media franchises, especially ones people centered their childhoods around.

It also arguably has led to a sense of ownership of the property itself from the fanbase, instead of ownership of the feelings said franchises brought up inside of them. The sheer vigorous hatred of Lucas for not recreating the sensations of the original Star Wars trilogy for the hardcore base of consumers that had a part in making him rich is an early and prime example of this. Further examples can be found in the otaku subculture in Japan, particularly in regard to the idol industry, as Satoshi Kon detailed all the way back in 1997 with Perfect Blue (which even touches on this aspect of the internet much earlier than almost any other work). Yet another, more awful extreme is how a Steven Universe fanartist was very probably driven to attempt suicide by hardcore members of the fandom on Tumblr, all because she had the gall to draw the characters as she saw them rather than by the strict parameters they viewed them under. Then there's the film critics who received death threats for giving a Batman movie a middling or bad review. It goes on and on.

You cloister together with a mental/emotional tribe enough, eventually all others not in the tribe are The Other and are to be destroyed lest your way of viewing the world be "corrupted".

Human nature is an ugly thing.




The original Ghostbusters is the 34th highest earning film in history (after adjusting for inflation) and the new film will be lucky to make 78% of that :v:
(After adjusting for inflation and higher ticket prices the original GB comes in just after The Avengers and Dark Knight.)

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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This guy is great, he goes on a huge rant because he hates Feig and Wiig and McCarthy and then at the end he switches to ranting about the other recent remakes he didn't like but he actually liked some of the directors and actors involved in those so he has all these excuses why the films' failure wasn't their fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eq11JeBvAU

Edit: some of his other videos are "Weekend At Bernie's 2 Tribute", "Movie Pitch #1 Fright Night Part 3", "Should Sony bring Tobey Maguire back?" and "Hoobastank- Ghostbusters cover". I can't tell if he's a broken manchild or a brilliant satirist.

Snowglobe of Doom fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Feb 25, 2016

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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A misanthrope posted:

lol this is beautiful

loving hell, it gets better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxd6sJtEE90

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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VectorSigma posted:

get this

ghostbusters... but they're all ducks

Come on dude. The Ghostbusters hate ducks. This is, like, Ghostbusters 101 poo poo here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045LAsjBsDs&t=298s

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

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Smash it Smash hit posted:

anyone notice how the ghostbusters visiting the hospital are all at least 2 arms length away from any of the paitents they are seeing?



JediTalentAgent posted:

What would be worse though: GB2016 cast showing up in costume or (cityname) Ghostbusters fanclub showing up in costume?

At least the Cityname Ghostbusters would probably put on a full show of it: They'd have their decorated Oldsmobile Stationwagon outside, act like all their equipment was dangerous, illegally tap into the powergrid (aka charge their phones in a wall outlet).

Yeah there's Ghostbusters cosplay groups all over the US who visit hospitals.







Their banter isn't exactly brilliant but they're doing their best
https://vimeo.com/133229235

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