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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
Idiot: "I'm gonna download my consciousness and live as an immortal machine."

lol @ "immortal" machines. Off the top of my head I can't think of any complex machine with a functional lifespan greater than that of the average human.

Appliances: 5-10 years depending on the appliance.

Cars: 5-10 years avg. 20-30 with a really good owner. 50+ with meticulous care and preservation.

Aircraft: same as cars

Computers: lol like 3 years.

Navy Warships: 50 years

Assembly Line Robots: 20-30 years

I can't think of a machine operating today that I probably won't outlive. When you think of all the cars, toasters, computers, blenders and lawnmowers you burn through in your lifetime, the sci-fi cliche of robots outliving humans seems laughable.

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MAYO FETISH
Feb 15, 2016
same op

Gasbraai
Oct 25, 2010

Lictor my Dictor
Riddle me this genius, what about the cloud? The cloud will outlive us all.

Schlonged Again
Jan 30, 2016

I'm already a machine. Tell me why I shouldn't literally become a vacuum cleaner or a dildo for some bourgeois ice queen to use and casually toss into a garbage dump.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
it would be uploading not downloading

www
Aug 4, 2010

upload my consciousness into an anime

www
Aug 4, 2010

one of those harem animes

RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice
a toaster has a better life than me. i wish i could upload the toasters personality into my brain

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Darkman Fanpage posted:

it would be uploading not downloading

what's the distinction?

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

I only want to use this power to insert myself into internet porn tho

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
Op I don't think the idea is to put your mind in one machine forever. Instead, you put it in something like the Internet, which currently relies on many machines all over the world.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
the clock in big ben was built in the 1850s and still works

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

SHISHKABOB posted:

Op I don't think the idea is to put your mind in one machine forever. Instead, you put it in something like the Internet, which currently relies on many machines all over the world.

Living on the internet seems like a fate worse than death. You'd have access to all the porn on earth, but no dick to jack to it.

You can read about it more in my Hugo Award Winning short story:
I Have No Dick and I must Fap

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

XMNN posted:

the clock in big ben was built in the 1850s and still works

lol if you think I want to live for eternity as a giant clock in London.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Don't need a dick when you can be the orgasm, prostate, or goatman

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

PathAsc posted:

Don't need a dick when you can be the orgasm, prostate, or goatman

JPEGs can't feel pleasure.

Isaac
Aug 3, 2006

Fun Shoe
Ive created a garys mod lvel where there is an infite amount of benzos in a vast array of colours and sizes. Just waiting on the donwload tech to live in there

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

Applewhite posted:

JPEGs can't feel pleasure.

How is that different from being a goon?

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

Get in before the meat apocalypse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ

1000 Sweaty Rikers
Oct 13, 2005

yeah but what about the singularity thing and stuff

that sounds cool

de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
the singularity is going to own bones for white people

as long as our Hispanic day labourers don't accidentally unplug us when doing whatever if is they do in my habitation pod

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Lunixnerd posted:

Riddle me this genius, what about my butt? My butt will outlive us all.

Cloud to butt extension never fails to deliver.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
you'll be uploading a copy so you'll still die making it all pointless from your perspective

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

the idea is you can trivially copy your consciousness around from older machines to newer machines since its just files

try it before you knock it

The Biscuit
Jul 2, 2007
Half of everything is luck.
you wont be lollin, if downloading consciousness is ever a thing - we are all hosed (by whoever has control over it).

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Ahundredbux posted:

you'll be uploading a copy so you'll still die making it all pointless from your perspective

This has also always bugged me about the whole "uploading" solution.

Frankly I think we're better off focusing our efforts on some kind of immortality potion.

Actually my favorite "immortality" solution is the "Multiples" from Peter F. Hamilton's Void trilogy. Basically the gist is that your consciousness gets synchronized across several bodies who all actively share your memories, personality and experience. You can't "die" until they're all destroyed and you can keep adding new bodies to replace ones that age and die. It gets around what I feel to be the major problem with consciousness uploading and plus you can have orgies with yourself.

Best option, IMO.

1000 Sweaty Rikers
Oct 13, 2005

*buys dvd burner and 5 million blank disks*

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.
Computer, set temperature to 20 degrees celsius, set an alarm for 6:00am tomorrow morning and tell me about everything you ever purchased on thinkgeek.

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


Applewhite posted:

what's the distinction?

You download porn.
Pornographers upload porn.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Tace Vim posted:

*buys dvd burner and 5 million blank disks*

my brain would only use like 5 discs at the most probably

MAYO FETISH
Feb 15, 2016

Hatebag posted:

You download porn.
Pornographers upload porn.

youre gonna have to slow down

*pulls out notepad*

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
They are just dupes of the lower forces who are trying to get the human plants to make immortal bodies before the planet is recycled.

And the correct terminology you want is 'upload' OP - downloading a consciousness means being possessed.

nickhimself
Jul 16, 2007

I GIVE YOU MY INFO YOU LOG IN AND PUT IN BUILD I PAY YOU 3 BLESSINGS
When I die, I want to die. I don't want to be resuscitated or even have some mock immortality. "living" through machines sounds pretty horrible

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

nickhimself posted:

When I die, I want to die. I don't want to be resuscitated or even have some mock immortality. "living" through machines sounds pretty horrible

lol if you dont want to be a human killing cyborg the way god intended

Womyn Capote
Jul 5, 2004


Yeah op is totally right there is literally no evidence of any form of data lasting more than a human lifetime. Literally all information in existence today is only a few decades old, soon to disappear forever when the devices that hold it rust away.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Ultron did nothing wrong

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

DONT CARE BUTTON posted:

Yeah op is totally right there is literally no evidence of any form of data lasting more than a human lifetime. Literally all information in existence today is only a few decades old, soon to disappear forever when the devices that hold it rust away.

I'm talking more about the machine body. Obviously you could keep downloading your consciousness into new bodies but you only have 10-20 years to do it, as opposed to like a hundred or a thousand like people seem to think. I guess if you're already super rich that's not a problem but if you're working class you are gonna be spending all your spare time working to buy your next body and you'll have no time to enjoy your immortality.

monkey
Jan 20, 2004

by zen death robot
Yams Fan

Applewhite posted:

Actually my favorite "immortality" solution is the "Multiples" from Peter F. Hamilton's Void trilogy. Basically the gist is that your consciousness gets synchronized across several bodies who all actively share your memories, personality and experience. You can't "die" until they're all destroyed and you can keep adding new bodies to replace ones that age and die. It gets around what I feel to be the major problem with consciousness uploading and plus you can have orgies with yourself.

You should read Permutation City by Greg Egan.

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

Ahundredbux posted:

you'll be uploading a copy so you'll still die making it all pointless from your perspective

Lol I always thought this was the most disheartening thing about the whole concept. You can't get around this. The worst thing I think is if you could repeatedly "jack yourself in" the internet and copy your concious to and back what if you were just killing yourself constantly but you would never know because your copy only knows what I knows and it appears seamless to it ?

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Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
just pluck out the brain and pickle it so it'll stay fresh longer is probably the correct solution

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