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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Cat Mattress posted:

Brainiac Five is an idiot and a moron who votes for Trump because he wants to Make America Great Again.

Can you blame him?
The alternative is crooked Hillary who wants to start a nuclear war with Russia.

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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Kurtofan posted:

Let them eat parmiggiano

Made in China.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Brussels has now also decided to give CETA the finger.

Hopefully it's dead now.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Phlegmish posted:

The coalition governing Brussels is almost the same as the one in Wallonia, so I don't know why this would suddenly sound the death knell.

Because it is two Belgian states giving it the finger now and not just one.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

Eh, lets stay realistic with this. Among many other things, none of the French candidates plan to ignore the results of a democratic election and have threatened the county with violence. (At leat not yet.)

People were laughing about the German concept of militant democracy, but nobody is laughing anymore about plucky little Germany. :chord: Trump would be already banned from the election and maybe even in prison for trying to abolish the Democratic order over here.

Clinton would've never made it to the candidacy either.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
The only way the Euro would have worked is with Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Luxembourg, Finland and nobody else.

The other countries either never had fiscal responsibility of any kind or are simply too poor.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

His Divine Shadow posted:

No it wouldn't have worked either because Germany is the one loving it up for Finland. The problem isn't the poors. The problem is Germany.

Infact without the poors in the union, the eiro would probably be valued even higher and Finland would be even more anally raped than currently.

EDIT: Infact the poors would have been better to form a currency union with for Finland, they'd depress the value of the new currency compared to what it would otherwise be, making exporting stuff for us easier, and the inverse would be true for the poor countries. In this scenario, we would be the Germany analogue, loving up and destroying the other members economies.

The problems Finland has is mostly related to the foolish sanctions on Russia.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

This is never going to happen. Germany just renegotiated it's internal, national fiscal union and the rich states like Bavaria managed to massively reduce transfers to poorer states. The federal government is going to pick up the tap, but this is really a bad idea and not really sustainable long term. Lmao at the idea of Germans paying their fair share to the darkies, when they don't even want to pay it to Germans.
It's a lost cause.

To be fair, only two or three out of the 16 German states weren't receiving subsidies. That's simply unsustainable.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
I for one welcome the return of madam de guillotine and hope a great many politicians, bankers, journaille and foolish intellectuals get to know her intimately.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

MeLKoR posted:

Take out the intellectuals and add a few industrialists and you got yourself a deal. We shall harvest our fields twice next year!

drat, I completely forgot about 'managers' of all stripes. They too of course have to meet Madame.

We can argue about the intellectuals but champagne socialist Bernard-Henri Lévy has got to go; silver spoon born prick with an large inherited fortune.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Toplowtech posted:

Can we not, i am still waiting for Day and Nights 2, the sequel of day and nights (featuring Alain Delon and Lauren Bacal), worst movie of 1997.

Your craving for entertainment is unbelievably petit bourgeois.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
The facts.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
The FPO is a nationalist social democratic law & order party. All the various complaints are a joke.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

blowfish posted:

Also led by a crazy fucker who writes books that make chemtrail conspiracy nuts look sane.

What?

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

YF-23 posted:

So you'd say that, in a certain sense, they're national socialists, then, perhaps?

No because that would imply they are attacking the democratic institutions.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Hammerstein posted:

You mean when a proto-fascist organization like "Die Identitären", with deep connections to the FPÖ, occupies the roof of another party's office, then it's not an attack on democratic institutions ?



That was an amusing action but no.
The party and the org have ideological overlap but neither wants to abolish the political system.

I can play guilt by association as well using the anti-democratic antifa and left parties. It's actually even better because parliamentary green politicians were actually marching in and ahead of antifa demos.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
As far as I know the origin of the movement is french and all you can accuse them of is loving their country and wanting to protect its customs and people.

It does not look like want to deny you the right of freedom of speech, assembly or elections so these accusations of fascism are as always complete hyperbole without basis in reality.

quote:

You think it's amusing, when proto-fascists occupy the offices of a democratic party and unroll islamophobic transparents ?

They didn't occupy anything; they went up on the roof and unfolded a banner while nobody knew what was going on. I do find that amusing, yes.

Leftists do that kind of stuff all the time, the difference is you agree with the message.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

GaussianCopula posted:

You just wait until they vote another time because they screwed something up

How about the court ordered a repeat but they updated the voting registry which makes it not a repeat after all.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

YF-23 posted:

I'm looking forward to Van der Bellen making Austria green again.

Even environmentalism is a cornerstone of national socialist policies. However unlike the Führer, VDB smokes.

orange sky posted:

Regarding the italian referendum what's the win lose situation here? If the no wins Renzi gets out and the supporters of an Italian EU exit get traction? What if the yes wins, will there be actual change? I mean shouldn't Italy attack rampant fiscal evasion, or is that not such a huge problem as I'm thinking?

Actually, it's Euro exit. The problem is Italy has a major banking crisis right now and they need stability.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

orange sky posted:

Oh, but wouldn't a Euro exit gently caress the financial markets anyway? Something about the debt still being in euros while there's a different, weaker currency in the country. I don't know much, but that makes sense to me. Would they just default and take the hit?

Nobody knows but people assume the five star movement is crazy enough. There would be re-elections, a Euro referendum and the the whole shaky Euro edifice and debt would probably come crumbling down.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Toplowtech posted:

Just twit the most powerful people in the world a picture of the ecologist winner in traditional leather pants, that should confuse the gently caress out of Trump.

It certainly confused the professor of economy wearing it and his supporters.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Lawman 0 posted:

Is there any particular reason to vote no other than 'gently caress Renzi'?
I mean if you were Italian I can see it being a powerful motivators but could someone walk me through why a yes result would be bad?

Well, there's at least 50 legal scholars who say the reform removes checks and balances in the system and will enable another Mussolini.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Man, even the fake news are fake.
http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs

quote:

A lot of fake and misleading news stories were shared across social media during the election. One that got a lot of traffic had this headline: "FBI Agent Suspected In Hillary Email Leaks Found Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide." The story is completely false, but it was shared on Facebook over half a million times.

We wondered who was behind that story and why it was written. It appeared on a site that had the look and feel of a local newspaper. Denverguardian.com even had the local weather. But it had only one news story — the fake one.

Coler is a soft-spoken 40-year-old with a wife and two kids. He says he got into fake news around 2013 to highlight the extremism of the white nationalist alt-right.

"The whole idea from the start was to build a site that could kind of infiltrate the echo chambers of the alt-right, publish blatantly or fictional stories and then be able to publicly denounce those stories and point out the fact that they were fiction," Coler says.

At any given time, Coler says, he has between 20 and 25 writers. And it was one of them who wrote the story in the Denver Guardian that an FBI agent who leaked Clinton emails was killed. Coler says that over 10 days the site got 1.6 million views. He says stories like this work because they fit into existing right-wing conspiracy theories.

"The people wanted to hear this," he says. "So all it took was to write that story. Everything about it was fictional: the town, the people, the sheriff, the FBI guy. And then ... our social media guys kind of go out and do a little dropping it throughout Trump groups and Trump forums and boy it spread like
And as the stories spread, Coler makes money from the ads on his websites. He wouldn't give exact figures, but he says stories about other fake-news proprietors making between $10,000 and $30,000 a month apply to him. Coler fits into a pattern of other faux news sites that make good money, especially by targeting Trump supporters.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

icantfindaname posted:

Sigmar Gabriel?

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Rude.

A turd has qualifications.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Goa Tse-tung posted:

yep, traitor to the social democrat cause

He also authorised a merger that would create severe issues in the market.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
The continuing demonisation of the FN and their voters makes that wanker all but impossible to avoid.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

cebrail posted:

Calling fascists fascists isn't demonising.

The party may or may not be but the majority of their voters certainly are not.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

blowfish posted:

Then their voters are either willing fascist accomplices or blind and deluded.

What they are is people angry at the establishment who want to send a message.

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Badger of Basra posted:

Why don't they vote for Melenchon then?

Because there's no bigger gently caress you in french politics than voting FN.

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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
From what I know, the change of power was arranged before that. The march was merely great propaganda.

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