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Ka0
Sep 16, 2002

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AS A PROUD GAMERGATER THE ONLY THING I HATE MORE THAN WOMEN ARE GAYS AND TRANS PEOPLE
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One day in the future, people will come together and decide the anthem for planet earth, and it will be I'm The Walrus

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Leroy Dennui
Aug 9, 2014

Gina McCarthy made us gay,
but we would not have met
had Biden not dropped his cones
:gaysper::frogbon:
I like The Beatles, but they didn't have enough musical theory to be perfectly analogous to Da Vinci, who totally knew what he was doing and didn't operate by throwing poo poo at the wall and seeing what sticks.

d00kiemastah
Jun 11, 2006
An afro is the symbol of a man.

Leroy Dennui posted:

I like The Beatles, but they didn't have enough musical theory to be perfectly analogous to Da Vinci, who totally knew what he was doing and didn't operate by throwing poo poo at the wall and seeing what sticks.

I don't think music theory is a good front to challenge The Beatles, they use some really interesting chords and changes that should sound challenging, but somehow fit perfectly. Julia sounds beautiful, but it's some weird stuff chord-wise to be doing in popular music at all.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

They did a good job on blue suede shoes

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Heath posted:

do you also dismiss the entire catalog of a very well respected and influential band because they played Hard Day's Night on the store radio in Target once and you didn't like it because you were in a bad mood from your mom refusing to buy you the new expansion for pokemon cards because that's literally every beatles disliker. that's you.

This is true, and I know because I was this guy once. Then I grew the gently caress up and listened to Rubber Soul and understood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrM6sLx_DXo

e: Bunch of Mark David Chapmans in here.

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Apr 8, 2012

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best band ever and if you say any different ill fuckin fight you as any good scouser would. Also george is easily the best, his post beatles stuff is amazing

NiceGuy
Dec 13, 2006

This is my BOOMSTICK
College Slice
Good opinions in a good thread, right here.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
John Lennon was a wife beating piece of poo poo.

But then David Bowie was a child molestor and he's a musical hero, it's kind of weird how they get picked.

I like that "come together" song and all the rest of the material they shamelessly stole from other artists.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
kill your idols
kill your famil
hail satan

yes we get it

Leroy Dennui
Aug 9, 2014

Gina McCarthy made us gay,
but we would not have met
had Biden not dropped his cones
:gaysper::frogbon:

d00kiemastah posted:

I don't think music theory is a good front to challenge The Beatles, they use some really interesting chords and changes that should sound challenging, but somehow fit perfectly. Julia sounds beautiful, but it's some weird stuff chord-wise to be doing in popular music at all.

Right, they were just more about feeling their way through the process of making art while Da Vinci was about technical mastery (which does admittedly encapsulate more than musical theory knowledge when it comes to music).

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
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Can't post for 10 years!

reallivedinosaur posted:

John Lennon was a wife beating piece of poo poo.

But then David Bowie was a child molestor and he's a musical hero, it's kind of weird how they get picked.

I like that "come together" song and all the rest of the material they shamelessly stole from other artists.

Um, I think yoko was the spouse beater there buddy. :catbert:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

reallivedinosaur posted:

John Lennon was a wife beating piece of poo poo.

But then David Bowie was a child molestor and he's a musical hero, it's kind of weird how they get picked.

It's almost as if the art is a separate entity from the artist and it's possible to treat it as such

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
blackstreet's "no diggity" is the greatest musical achievement of the 20th century, a musical mona lisa if you will, and the beatles had NOTHING to do with it.

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Um, I think yoko was the spouse beater there buddy. :catbert:

Naw, Julians mamma. That kid just refuses to discuss his dad and seems really cold about it.

It's weird because you'd think if your dad was John Lennon then all you would want to do is brag about your cool dad :shrug:

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
look at this guy. don't listen to the beatles, listen to graveland, the alternative for a more discerning listener.

Gatekeeper
Aug 3, 2003

He was warrior and mystic, ogre and saint, the fox and the innocent, chivalrous, ruthless, less than a god, more than a man.

reallivedinosaur posted:

John Lennon was a wife beating piece of poo poo.

But then David Bowie was a child molestor and he's a musical hero, it's kind of weird how they get picked.

I like that "come together" song and all the rest of the material they shamelessly stole from other artists.

mick jagger was never a child tho. who else did david boueiay molest?

I know ted nuge adopted a hawaiian kiid just to break some off in it, but not my bowiuy?

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

Gatekeeper posted:

mick jagger was never a child tho. who else did david boueiay molest?

I know ted nuge adopted a hawaiian kiid just to break some off in it, but not my bowiuy?

a lot of those 70s rock guys were like redittors where they would make a big distinction between 12 and 13 because jerry lee lewis did it, or because thats the age in france and the french are greate artists? I dunno

When the dude from The Who gets caught buying kiddy porn online nobody questions him when he says he was just doing "research". Because he's a rock legend. There was Gary Glitter too. A lot of pediophiles/

Just seems to me the entire "british invasion" was full of pedophiles. Seems to me maybe all of britain is one big sort of pedophisland.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I'm pretty sure the thing about Gary Glitter was the only true statement in your whole post. Pete Townshend wasn't "caught buying kiddie porn" he put his credit card info into a site that had a link to a police sting site. As for the Bowie thing I think you just farted that out of your rear end.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
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reallivedinosaur posted:

Naw, Julians mamma. That kid just refuses to discuss his dad and seems really cold about it.

It's weird because you'd think if your dad was John Lennon then all you would want to do is brag about your cool dad :shrug:

Worship is weird. I think if you grew up with your mom worshipping your dad and everybody worshipping them and you you would end up wondering if anyone else ever does any of the thinking.

ClamdestineBoyster fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Mar 31, 2016

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

King Vidiot posted:

As for the Bowie thing I think you just farted that out of your rear end.

Google "David Bowie Statutory Rape"

We'll wait

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Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

King Vidiot posted:

I'm pretty sure the thing about Gary Glitter was the only true statement in your whole post. Pete Townshend wasn't "caught buying kiddie porn" he put his credit card info into a site that had a link to a police sting site. As for the Bowie thing I think you just farted that out of your rear end.

Bowie (among many, many others apparently, but he was the first) supposedly had sex with a girl who to this day claims it was consensual and apparently a positive experience in her life.

quote:

For me, now, I’m in the fashion business and look back very fondly on those years. I was really special. I knew it the night after I lost my virginity to David Bowie, when I went to see his concert at Long Beach Arena. It was still the Spiders from Mars tour, and, literally, the night that he became a star. But he had the spotlight shined on Lee Childers [Bowie’s publicist], Sable, and I, sitting in the audience. That’s when he thanked me for being there. Who cares what people said about me? I feel like I was very present. I saw the greatest music ever. I got to hang out with some of the most amazing, most beautiful, most charismatic men in the world. I went to concerts in limos with police escorts. Am I going to regret this? No.

So now the internet will continue to have slap fights over whether Bowie is a piece of poo poo for statutory raping a girl or a talented musician who was as much the product of his environment as any of the other guys who did the same thing, because it's really easy to take milquetoast internet revenge on a dead man 40 years after the fact to get clicks on your outrage article.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

BEAR GRYLLZ posted:

tbh Yes - Long Distance Runaround puts every beetles song (beetles left intentionally uncapitalized and misspelled because there gay) to shame


Leroy Dennui posted:

I like The Beatles, but they didn't have enough musical theory to be perfectly analogous to Da Vinci, who totally knew what he was doing and didn't operate by throwing poo poo at the wall and seeing what sticks.

that mostly came from george rr martin who taught them a few tin pan alley songwriting tricks

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

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Heath posted:

So now the internet will continue to have slap fights over whether Bowie is a piece of poo poo for statutory raping a girl or a talented musician who was as much the product of his environment as any of the other guys who did the same thing, because it's really easy to take milquetoast internet revenge on a dead man 40 years after the fact to get clicks on your outrage article.

Ah yes the "everyone else was raping children too so really it wasn't that bad" defense.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Look man, times were different back in the ancient year of 1973. We didn't realize that it wasn't cool to have sex with children until at least 1982.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Alright, now I know this thing, and I'll stay out of further discussion of it but...

reallivedinosaur posted:

But then David Bowie was a child molestor

this statement still wasn't true.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Ah yes the "everyone else was raping children too so really it wasn't that bad" defense.

The Lori Mattix thing has been a known quantity for literally decades but not until the week after he died did people start writing articles about how horrible he was for doing it to make sure their poo poo comes up in a hot Google search and it amounts to a bunch of weak finger wagging and "this rock 'n roll culture that exploits young girls is unacceptable" while making no specific criticisms of how to fix it or what's to be done about it, and laying the blame at Bowie's feet specifically because he's dead now and can't fight back or apologize for it

A ILL BREAKFAST
Jun 9, 2007

*unsheathes katana*

Heath posted:

The Lori Mattix thing has been a known quantity for literally decades but not until the week after he died did people start writing articles about how horrible he was for doing it to make sure their poo poo comes up in a hot Google search and it amounts to a bunch of weak finger wagging and "this rock 'n roll culture that exploits young girls is unacceptable" while making no specific criticisms of how to fix it or what's to be done about it, and laying the blame at Bowie's feet specifically because he's dead now and can't fight back or apologize for it

if he didnt want to be posthumously poo poo all over by the internet he shoudlnt have died liek a fucken bitch IMO just tellin it like it is

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Heath posted:

The Lori Mattix thing has been a known quantity for literally decades but not until the week after he died did people start writing articles about how horrible he was for doing it to make sure their poo poo comes up in a hot Google search and it amounts to a bunch of weak finger wagging and "this rock 'n roll culture that exploits young girls is unacceptable" while making no specific criticisms of how to fix it or what's to be done about it, and laying the blame at Bowie's feet specifically because he's dead now and can't fight back or apologize for it

Wow that sounds terrible

Do you know what is even worse than that?

Having sex with children

King Vidiot posted:

this statement still wasn't true.

Your honor I admit my client hosed this child but let me clear that in no way did he molest her.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Look if someone can't even tell the difference between a fiddler and a diddler then they have no right to be talking about fiddling when it's clear that we're dealing with diddling.

Masturbasturd
Sep 1, 2014
Bowie was the first SJW; he got twinko'd by Ringo and did his best to protect occidental values.

a messed up horse
Mar 11, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Paul McCartney is much better. John Lennon got to be so popular due to marketing and name recognition.

john was the best if you want a song with a good chorus and nonsense lyrics over a plodding piano

otherwise yeah it's not even close

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


They're actually the Da Vinci Code of music.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

the beatles sucked rear end hope this helps op

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Heath posted:

"I don't like the Beatles"
"What albums have you listened to"
"uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

-everybody who says they don't like the Beatles

"Wow. These songs suck. Guess I need to listen to several albums of this bad music and memorize their names just in case someone is mad I don't like their band."

Tiberius Thyben fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Mar 31, 2016

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD
nobody ever says "oh man i wish i could play guitar/bass/piano/drums/sing like john/paul/ringo/john". they were mediocre musicians at best, and their solo careers bear that out.

the beatles got huge as a boy band whos fans were screaming 12 year old girls

later on they "branched out musically" and "reinvented themselves" by stealing/buying a bunch of other peoples music

and if you peek behind the curtain this is basically the story behind every successful band with a long-lived career

a lot of pop music is good but the writing credits are dubious

i cant believe david bowie would stop at raping just one kid. that's like believing jared only eating half of the foot long.

if your david bowie and into young girls and have access to them then you decide after this one "amazing spiritual relationship" you are going to straighten up and fly right?

anyways, canadian rockers are vetted against pedophilia so go listen to some kim mitchell or BTO or guess who or rush or triumph or killer dwarves buddy (some of those guys are prob pedophiles too)

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

heh

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


calling a rock star having consensual sex with a 15 year old groupie in the 70s a child rapist is disingenuous at best and insulting to victims of child rape at worst

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

John wrote all the best songs

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reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

Profondo Rosso posted:

calling a rock star having consensual sex with a 15 year old groupie in the 70s a child rapist is disingenuous at best and insulting to victims of child rape at worst

what about 13?

how young is too young for a rock star? and for a regular person?

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