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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Here's what I've got:

Terra
Artemios
Lasswell
Edgar
Vivi
Shantotto
Rain
Anzelm
Cyan
Penelo
Magitek Armor Terra
Bedile

Not sure on stars off the top of my head. Suggestions? If it's not terrible, are there any on this list that people would like to see as a guest character that I could set as leader?

I'll post my friend code to the spreadsheet later on today.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Well, since I have Edgar, Vivi, Terra and a bunch of other cool dudes who didn't make the tier list posted but who DID make the ranked list in the wiki, I'm gonna save myself the headache and keep on keepin' on.

Besides, I have cool Goon friends who will let me borrow their overpowered monstrosities until mine are overpowered monstrosities! :)

Friend code is 634,188,308, added it to the Google doc. In-game name is Rainbow. Added a request to everyone whose list it's currently full.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jul 1, 2016

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Rafza posted:

WELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

But seriously though I seem to be doing pretty, pretty, pretty good with Terra, Vivi, Anastasia, Rain and Lasswell. Pretty good.

Just rescued the king back at Rain and Lasswell's house.

Haven't started to crank on Cyan, Edgar, Biggs, Anzelm or the others... I don't see myself as gimped at all for not having a top-tier draw from the beginning. This is gonna turn out okay.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jul 2, 2016

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Shoenin posted:

What Magicites do which for which summons?

Blue is for Siren and Red for Ifrit. What about the rest?

The wiki can help you more, but the planned Espers at this point are Siren, Ifrit, Shiva, Golem, Diablos, Ramuh and... maybe others.

They're all color coded.

Wooze posted:

I honestly think yall expectations are seriously twisted by the comments from the veterans here.

I started with the soft launch and didn't reroll once, my "one" pull was so bad that I forget about it a long time ago. Baram's Exdeath and garfu's Brrrrap still managed to easily carry me through the whole game up to current content and I'm happily farming my dailies and leveling up my heroes.
If you're not absolutely convinced that you will invest untold hours into the game and have to be future proof for that beyond reason (second island was released like a week ago), as soon as you're pulling one of the top units you're more than fine. There's no pvp arena or anything right now in global and I think Japan too? So you're set for a long, long time. Also, stars do not matter, thanks to the chamber of the awakening. Leveling up your superpull(s) is a matter of days, all the while you are clearing the content with your friend summons anyway.

What I want to say is, please chill out and start the game as soon as you pull one or two good ones, if you hate the rerolling game.

I like you. Add me if you haven't already.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
It's been said before, but having cool Goon Friends who have high-powered guest units goes a long way.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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I'm surprised that there are so many potions that require the Drink skill and only one character, Mel, who has the skill and that only as a Trust Mastery.

Are more alchemists on the way, maybe, or will the skill become craftable?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Mister Macys posted:

Got a five star Cecil for anyone who wants free Curas and +50% def Limit Breaks.

287,030,485

If you only have one guy in your party, they get five times the experience, right?

Full already.

These Gil Turtles are just for selling, right?

Shwqa posted:

Hey if you are wanting adds make sure to your signature to mention you are a goon. I'm not sure if pubbies are trying to get adds or if goons are.

Or stairs, or protected...

PRADA SLUT posted:

really whats the difference

Goons are more likely to have obsessively re-rolled for Exdeath, Bartz, Vaan and CoD.

It also helps with building a Goon Friend Army and minimizes the "friend list full" problem the guys with the best lending characters on the spreadsheet have...

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Mister Macys posted:

I still have four slots open... :confused:

That was my bad, I didn't know my list was full. It really sneaks up on you, There's no warning! Sorry.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Mischalaniouse posted:

Anyone have the sound cutting out on the app? It has really great music that I like to hear but I keep losing all sound after minimizing the app and coming back. Tried force closing and reopening, tried restoring the app data, tried rebooting my phone. Sometimes these measures work, sometimes they don't.

I've had this happen a couple times. Rebooting my iPhone does the trick... but I wish it wouldn't happen.

ApplesandOranges posted:

Is there some kind of Esper levelling priority? Obviously get all their skills first, but after that is there one Esper that should be levelled before the others?

Depends on the skills you want, I guess?

I'm currently midway through Wolffang Peak, and all the Bartzes have stolen my potions. I think they have a drinking problem.

As posters have said, Fina is a pretty good White Mage. Rain and Lasswell are getting stars faster than Vivi and Terra. Don't underestimate those two! They're not terrible, and they do differentiate themselves (Tankish Rain and Samurai Lasswell, basically) as they get more powerful gear and gain levels.

What I'm saying is, if you only get one or two decent drops from the Fun Time Character Machine, the guaranteed ones the game gives you are okay and fairly easy to get up to at least 4 stars.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Just awoke my entire team to four stars. Gotta grind them back up for 5 now. Shouldn't take too long.

Beat all current story content, was mopping up quests before I couldn't take not being Woke.

This game is pretty fun, y'all. All you need is one fairly good pull and your goonpatriots can carry you till you can make it on your own.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Rafza posted:

Regarding star quartz, is it worth saving up for the autoprotect bracer or is the staff/vest actually good too?

If you won't have anyone who can cast Cura for a while, the staff is a godsend. Fina doesn't learn it till at least four stars.

Samba De Amigo posted:

If you're using Butz as your friend remember to unequip potions before you enter combat

Auto-potion ate all my potions when I used a goon Butz as a friend :negative:

Me too. Butz is still worth it though.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Love Machine posted:

I don't get why they didn't just rip his FF6 laugh effect, it seems way more obvious a choice.

Wooop woop woop woooop!

I gotta try it out to see for myself.

Anyway, I bought the 11 ticket bindle with my lapis, and got:

4* Penelo (dupe!)
3* Penelo (another dupe, not even as good)
4* Edgar (had a 3*, small net gain)
4* Vaan (my first "top tier" character!)
3* Kefka 3 (Shaggy 2 Dope)
4* Kefka 4 (Violent J)
4* Luna 4 x2 (seems cool. But... ugh, macros)
3* Shadow 3 (I've got a fanfic you guys, it's super good DO NOT STEAL)
4* Golbez (disappointing to see he's not rated "better" than Kefka on the wiki... still, very happy about this!)
4* Kain (we can go shopping together at Hot Topic! With Shadow!)
4* Bedile (becasue OF COURSE)

No Chorizo. Still, this was a good pull. Sometimes, a blue crystal would crack and reveal a golden one underneath. Is that the rate up kicking in, maybe?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Mischalaniouse posted:

If I already have ExDeath are my new Golbez and Kefka just redundant, or is a team of mages something you'd want to do from time to time?

What does your heart say? That, my friend, is the correct answer.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Kemix posted:

It should eventually, though I warn you now, the game WILL get very money hungry once 6* units roll out if I am correct.

Kemix posted:

Probably when 6*s get introduced. AKA: When lovely Waifu is thrown into the game.

Please explain more?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy
Just got Golbez to 5*, he should be max level in a day or three, has all but his last magic skill. Updating spreadsheet accordingly.

I have 15 open slots. 634,188,308.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Golbez has a ton of HP. More than Exdeath. Very tanky. I like him a lot.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Trilin posted:

Does INT really drop Holy Crystals? I know INT is better for Sacred Crystals, but those are different items.

It does. I've done ADV maybe twice and I've been able to get both Lasswell and Golbez to 5* via INT.

Garfu posted:

It's something like 3 hours, definitely not 24

Yes.

Shark Tower posted:

Even with a script, it's balls. You pretty much have to run nothing but earth shrine for an entire month to max it out, unless you buy stamina refreshes with lapis. I'm probably going to take a break from it once the friend point event is over and tackle some other things for a while.

TM farming is balls, period. The only reason to knock it out in a month is completionism, and I just broke myself of the cheevo habit last year, I'm not getting sucked into that again. Without the TMs, I'm doing pretty well in this game, I'm quite pleased!

Zurai posted:

One thing I've noticed is that Sacred/Holy Crystals are always "second drops" from a monster. The chest pops up, a normal evolution item pops out, then sometimes one of the crystals pops out. I have absolutely nothing but anecdotal evidence to support this, but I feel like getting that second drop is more common when you Overkill a monster. If you're just (for example) having Exdeath use Firaga once per stage, you won't ever overkill, and will thus have a lower chance to get Sacred/Holy Crystals. Meanwhile, I have a primarily physical team who can kill each monster except the tombstones quickly and easily with any two characters, so I get overkills on everything. I almost always get at least 1 of each crystal each run, and frequently get 2-3 Sacred Crystals.

I think you're right. I just ran the INT awakening dungeon, using -ara and -aga spells (Lasswell, Rain, Vivi, Terra, Golbez) and I got two Sacred and a Holy two runs in a row. Someone else needs to try this strategy!

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Dana Crysalis posted:

I'm currently running a Vaan / Butz / Cyan / Golbez / Kefka party. I feel like I should run something better, but the rerolls have been.. unkind. Should I just stick with this one, considering I've spent the last week and a half on it already? (Only rank 24 though)

I really *want* like, conceptually, Exdeath / Cecil / Vaan / Butz / Terra. Hahahaha me. :(

You will still steamroll with that setup, aside from Butz drinking all your potions and not having great heals. But that's what Fina is for, maybe switch out Cyan? Go for HealGoons until you do.

Honesty, this thread loves Exdeath and Chorizo, but there are plenty of oft her great characters that will steamroll just as well in most cases, and otherwise require a little micromanaging, as one does in Final Fantasy.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Dana Crysalis posted:

Yeah, I don't really want to use Cyan that much, but Blade Bash is amazing. I was thinking about taking Golbez out for Fina for now, really, Golbez just doesn't seem to be performing. Maybe once he has Binding Cold?

Golbez (and Exdeath) is a late bloomer.

Wow, these Cactaur Dunes, huh? This is gonna put a strain on my wallet. Maybe open up the Gil Vortex once my unit list is full?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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I cleared out about ten inactive friend requests from the beginning of the month. One pending for an active poster here, hint hint.

May I present Level 80 Golbez, the Tankiest of Mages. He shall not fail you.


My A-team (Rain, Lasswell, Fina, Terra, Golbez) is all 5 stars, though Golbez is the only one at 80 just yet, and Vivi is maxed out.

Getting to Cactaur-work on Kefka, Vaan... and Gilbert.

I like Gilbert. He is a bard. I like bards, even if they're spoony.

Especially if they're spoony.

Seriously though he can cause a lot of status effects and he's no. 4 on the current ranked support character list on the wiki.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Dana Crysalis posted:

the gods are truly trying to tempt me into starting over without the benefit of Cactuars. :(

Just rolled 5* Vaan, 4* Chizuru, 4* Terra, 4* Golbez, 3* Kefka. didn't spend the bonus Lapis so I can get to 5000 quicker. If only Golbez had been an Exdeath! Then I wouldn't be torn by indecision.

Don't Golbezshame.

Kheldarn posted:

I'd really love it if games would quit this poo poo. A is the best. It's 1. S is loving 19. Just use regular A-Z.

That's a D-tier argument, bro.

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So, the Japanese version is up to 6 or 7 islands now? But only 4 Espers still?

My friend code is 634,188,308, add me if you want a maxed out Golbez to crush your enemies. Working on maxing out Terra, Vaan and Kefka.

Must have stairs at your house.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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McSpankWich posted:

The only thing I've learned from this thread is that all the units that are top tier in the future don't exist in this version. I should just quit until they come out and reroll then.

Edit: Also the Cactuar event goes away along with the increased great success chance on fusion. Curse you game!! Now I have all these Cactuars poisoning my character slots, and I'm afraid to fuse them without the increased great chance :argh:

There will always be something better later, in every category of life. Don't let it get to you, and do the best with what you currently actually have. It's just a game, remember.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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TommyGun85 posted:

why do people even bother playing these games? this sounds like the antithesis of fun.

I respect your choice to do this, I just will never understand it

I'm playing this game and I don't give a poo poo about any of that stuff.

If someone wants to grind for TMs, more power to them.

But... it's not required. You don't need them.

You don't need them. You are stronger than this. You don't need to whale, and you don't need to TM grind.

Relax and have fun. :)

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Right now I'm running 5* Golbez, 5* Chizuru, 4* Vivi, 4* Maria and 4* Cyan. Looking at the rankings if I awaken my Leo and Krile to replace Cyan and Maria, that should be a good team for right now, right?

Leo is the best tank after Cecil, IIRC.

Krile is a Red Mage, so she won't outperform a specialist in any area.

On the other hand, they are very versatile, if you're winning consistently the results speak for themselves.

ABL, my dudes. Always. Be. Leveling. When a dude hits his current cap and cannot be awoken further, level someone else up in their place. Keep a Colosseum/Boss team in one of your slots to handle those things.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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PaybackJack posted:

Can you ever get "good" units from the Standard Summon? Should I be saving my friend points for the next time the mini metal cactuars show up? How do I spend these 1000s of friend points they're handing me? Is there a maximum to friend points?

That depends on your definition of "good." If you're a "reroll until you have the perfect team" sort, then no, no you can't get anything good from friend point summons. You can beat the current single player content with properly leveled FP characters. (Plus, Rain, Lasswell and Fina are all "good" characters.) You probably won't be able to sleepwalk through things, though. And you won't be getting any characters from the console Final Fantasies, if that's what you're asking.

If you currently have a workable team, then yes, save your friend points for a while.

Not sure what the max number of friend points is, worry about that when you hit it, it's not like they're a finite resource.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Mylan posted:

You can get NPCS from the console games just fine. Hell, Biggs and Wedge are technically playable characters too.

It would be cool though if they added in new recognizable friend point characters at some point.

You're right, I should have counted those two.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Just deleted 8 players from my friend list who haven't played in two weeks.

634,188,308 for a Golbez who is strong, like bull.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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This would interesting to have spelled out.

Do characters get spells they shouldn't from Espers? What about equipment?

Also, do any units in the Japanese version have blue magic yet?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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KataraniSword posted:

Yes, any spells that the esper knows gets passed down to the character that has it equipped regardless of compatibility. As far as I know no esper modifies equipment capability.

If you're wondering how to check a character's magic compatibility, let's look at the OP!



Between Vivi's equipment options and his stats there are four orbs, those tell you what magic he can equip. In Vivi's case, that means that he can't equip White or Blue magic, can equip up to Lv6 Black Magic, and can equip up to Lv 2 Green (aka 'status') Magic under the "Ability" tab, if you've crafted it/earned it. The icons under that tab will indicate what level and type of magic an attack is.

This is good info for those who didn't know, but I meant, can a weapon, such as the staffs, grant the use of the staff's associated spell such as Cura, Fira, or Silence, to someone not able to cast the spell normally? Could you give Kefka Cura with the healing staff?

And blue magic... Are any of the top Japanese characters blue mages of any sort?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Shoenin posted:

70 trophies huh


Lets do this.

E:wish there was a way to turn off the animations. I like seeing stupid sexy shiva, but Id rather just see the damage done and be over with it.

I'm pretty sure there's options to outright disable a lot of visual stuff in... the options. Tap Menu, then Options, then scroll down.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Shwqa posted:

Irifit has the most attack, so give him to your physical based attacker.

Shiva has the most magic, so give her to your magic user.

Golem has okay attack and the best defenses, so give him to a phyiscal attack who tanks.

Siren is just kinda there so give her to whoever for the minimum stat gain.

Depending upon party composition, you can also give Shiva to your red mage/physical attacker who also has magic if you are happy with your other mages/do not have any other mages.

You can also give Golem to your squishy mage if they drop too quickly and they are otherwise performing adequately. Or you could give Golem to Golbez or Exdeath and have them never ever die even on the off chance they don't nuke.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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No problems on iPhone 6 so far.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Niche Wish Dish: best place to get materials?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Probably.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Does anyone know what the upgrade max number of crafting slots are? Max unit/equipment/materials?

EDIT: Got Artemios finally. Initially had him confused with Anzelm way back in the thread.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Zotix posted:

Decided to pull twice because of the rate up. 2 back to back Ex-death. :psyduck:

You poor thing! Some of us don't have any and have to convince ourselves that at least Golbez will never be KNOCKED DOWN.

Anyway, my previous question still stands: what are the maximum number of crafting slots available? Is that as many as you want to throw lapis at? It's gonna be Crafting Time Soon.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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The Healing Staff is quite good. It gives anyone with the ability to use staves access to Cura, which can be handy in a pinch if you've only got the one healer and she's busy with Cheer.

Third time: what are the maximum number of crafting slots?

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Kheldarn posted:

That's Garland. "I, Garland, will knock you all down!!"

Golbez is from Final Fantasy IV.

I thought that FF4 (FF2 in the original American release) was still subject to crazy Nintendo censorship and had "knocked down" as the status effect, though I could be (probably am) wrong.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Tiny Chalupa posted:

Do we have any idea what the next set of events will be?

I'm also stuck debating if i want to grind my rank higher or awakening mats. Do we have any sort of eta on 6 star being a thing or the mat requirements?
I really like the idea of rank 45 so 3 runs in one go through any advance event

No ETA. It's probably not great to think that far ahead, you won't have any fun in the meantime. When we get the 6* units, Japan will have something else that makes 6* units look like dog poo poo.

If your rank is higher you will be able to do more of almost everything else; grinding rank is almost never bad.

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CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

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Kemian posted:

What are the best uses of Star Quartz, either now or in the future? I haven't spent any, and I'm not sure any of the currently purchasable items are really worth it.

The Healing Staff is good in a pinch if you have no healers or your healer is knocked out.

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