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kikkelivelho posted:Man, americans sure are serious about their mutant maize my terminator genes are telling me to say, "gently caress you rear end in a top hat."
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We'd all be a lot healthier and happier if we went back to eating like our ancestors, who were usually dead at 45,and sometimes starved to death depending on the weather.
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Jul 2, 2016 22:06
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If agricultural businesses were smart they're make GMO a good thing and have a nifty GMO! label made that they put on themselves listing the things their GMO does that are awesome, and you could not use "organic" and GMO! on the same bag of peanuts. As long as the label was fun and green, like the recyclables label, people would buy into it and the pro-organics people would look like even bigger idiots.
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Jul 2, 2016 22:10
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kikkelivelho posted:Yeah that's one of the more hosed up parts of GMO research that pro-GMO people rarely talk about. I don't think anyone can honestly say that they wouldn't want more regulations, but GMOs are the sole domain of massive multinational corporations so good luck with that. Well, GMOs are incredibly heavily regulated, and every single new strain is subjected to safety and environmental testing for years, completely unlike any other crop irradiated or otherwise. That's the reason only big multinational companies can afford to bring GMOs to market. It didn't start out this way, and things like Rainbow Papaya were small-scale collaborations with local farmers. also note that irradiating crops for mutation is conventional breeding, NOT GMO
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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signalnoise posted:If agricultural businesses were smart they're make GMO a good thing and have a nifty GMO! label made that they put on themselves listing the things their GMO does that are awesome, and you could not use "organic" and GMO! on the same bag of peanuts. As long as the label was fun and green, like the recyclables label, people would buy into it and the pro-organics people would look like even bigger idiots. Yeah that would be a nice pro-consumer policy but I doubt we'll ever see it since manufacturers want the GMO parts of their products to be mostly unnoticeable. Maybe the EU could draft laws to do this? I'm not sure how much power EU legislation has over such things. Also traditional and natural farming methods are not responsible for global warming. The earth has only become noticeably warmer during the last few decades and farming has been going on for thousands of years.
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blowfish posted:I was going to correct you by saying dedicated anti-GMO people are basically Trump voters, but then I remembered America recently lost the number one spot in having dumb voters to Britain, so I'll instead consider them the same as Leave voters from the Brexit referendum. Your correction would be a misfire anyway, as GMO pants shitters are in the American left wing, specifically couched in the kind of bitch liberal who votes for center-right for-a-fact criminals because they imagine in their third eye a real positive difference between that criminal and donald trump. Like i understand not wanting to admit that, but yeah man anti-vaxx and anti-gmo have a really weird little cubby hole in the anti-intellectual left. There are anti-vaxxers on the right wing too, usually tied to christian science, amish, or pentecostal groups. I used to roll with pentecostals though and they would suspect you of being one of the gays for being afraid of GMO crops, if they understood the issue.
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kikkelivelho posted:Yeah that would be a nice pro-consumer policy but I doubt we'll ever see it since manufacturers want the GMO parts of their products to be mostly unnoticeable. Maybe the EU could draft laws to do this? I'm not sure how much power EU legislation has over such things. This is what has happened to e.g. gluten, where the gluten-free fad is largely a product of idiots thinking that food being labelled gluten free for coeliacs means everyone else shouldn't eat gluten either. The least insane way to do this is probably going to be implemented in America, where food gets a code (QR or otherwise) you can look up, which then lists in great detail what ingredients from where are in your food, and the "what ingredients" would specify GM crops. quote:Also traditional and natural farming methods are not responsible for global warming. The earth has only become noticeably warmer during the last few decades and farming has been going on for thousands of years.
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hemophilia posted:Your correction would be a misfire anyway, as GMO pants shitters are in the American left wing, specifically couched in the kind of bitch liberal who votes for center-right for-a-fact criminals because they imagine in their third eye a real positive difference between that criminal and donald trump. lol pls go back to d&d. trump has no policy platform and is sucking the big money dick for the general so he's clinton with more racism btw. also the post you quoted was implying that like trump or leave voters, people who base their political views on the GMO TERROR are morons who've let identity politics and fear tactics rule their minds. akulanization fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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hemophilia posted:Like i understand not wanting to admit that, but yeah man anti-vaxx and anti-gmo have a really weird little cubby hole in the anti-intellectual left. No I totally get this and it's why I think many environmentalist groups and leftists claiming to be environmentalists have completely poo poo the bed for the last decade by focusing on stupid issues for idiots (GMOs, Atoms, ~local farms~ and general ~decentralisation~ even though that only helps very little, ...).
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Jul 2, 2016 22:26
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What if GMO is terrorists adulterating the american food supply.
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Methanar posted:What if GMO is terrorists adulterating the american food supply. GMOs contain flouride, and are therefore communist crops
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Jul 2, 2016 22:32
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The local shop here only has those Mosanto off-shoot tacos and they always make me poo poo sewage out of my rear end when I eat them.
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akulanization posted:lol pls go back to d&d. hemophilia posts in d&d? Not sure how a Trump supporter can do that without being on permanent probation
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kikkelivelho posted:The local shop here only has those Mosanto off-shoot tacos and they always make me poo poo sewage out of my rear end when I eat them. Probably because they're cheap-rear end poo poo made from literal bottom-of-the-barrel corn. Please don't keep eating food that gives you diarrhea though. AugmentedVision posted:hemophilia posts in d&d? Not sure how a Trump supporter can do that without being on permanent probation By getting banned twice weekly and paying the  ?
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Jul 2, 2016 22:40
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"GMOs are terrible organic is the way forward" said Europe as it cut down the last wild forest in Poland for more farmland
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Lichy posted:"GMOs are terrible organic is the way forward" said Europe as it cut down the last wild forest in Poland for more farmland also the last unregulated river system in the balkans (before spending millions to artificially recreate its water regime elsewhere while greenpeace/bund cried crocodile tears)
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AugmentedVision posted:hemophilia posts in d&d? Not sure how a Trump supporter can do that without being on permanent probation D&D is a shithole lol he's just mad he has to read an opinion he doesn't like. Also just to correct the record trump is terrible but i'm not so much pro-trump as anti the other thing. The av is from a prissy lil D&D fuckboi hope this has been helpful
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if you seriously think this gay earth can feed 7 billion monkeys without GMOs I've got news for you
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thathonkey posted:what is the news ??? the news is you'll be posting from the gas chamber literally
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i thought people stopped being malthusians in the 70s, what happened? Did somebody rewrite that population bomb book?
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:i thought people stopped being malthusians in the 70s, what happened? Did somebody rewrite that population bomb book? GMO is a way to avoid proving Malthus right what's your point
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:i thought people stopped being malthusians in the 70s, what happened? Did somebody rewrite that population bomb book? lets crank that poo poo up to 12 billions boys nothing can go wrong
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I just want to reiterate that if some hypothetical science teacher reads this thread and says "gently caress it. I can no longer stand as a lighthouse against the crashing waves of ignorance and stupidity" and say there is a hypothetical mass something hypothetically right after, and if I hypothetically get selected for said jury I may hypothetically vote not guilty. Hypothetically.
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Can britain have tasty gmos now that brexit has freed them?
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Helical Nightmares posted:I just want to reiterate that if some hypothetical science teacher reads this thread and says "gently caress it. I can no longer stand as a lighthouse against the crashing waves of ignorance and stupidity" and say there is a hypothetical mass something hypothetically right after, and if I hypothetically get selected for said jury I may hypothetically vote not guilty. The discussion ITT has been far better than what I usually see on the net. A couple of posters have even provided evidence when defending GMOs. I don't think it's fair to judge them or imply you want them dead just because they support practices that could in some cases be considered dangerous and immoral.
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kikkelivelho posted:The discussion ITT has been far better than what I usually see on the net. A couple of posters have even provided evidence when defending GMOs. I don't think it's fair to judge them or imply you want them dead just because they support practices that could in some cases be considered dangerous and immoral. lol you got loving owned this whole thread
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Labels accomplish absolutely nothing other than a government endorsement of lunacy. You hippy shitbags are getting pretty clever about trying to get them implemented though.
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crabcakes66 posted:Labels accomplish absolutely nothing other than a government endorsement of lunacy. We already have labels for lactose intolerant people and such, and they've proven to be very consumer friendly.
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kikkelivelho posted:We already have labels for lactose intolerant people and such, and they've proven to be very consumer friendly. I will again point out that gluten-free nonsense came about because of gluten labels for coeliacs, and it is really stupid. kikkelivelho posted:The discussion ITT has been far better than what I usually see on the net. A couple of posters have even provided evidence when defending GMOs. I don't think it's fair to judge them or imply you want them dead just because they support practices that could in some cases be considered dangerous and immoral. You should actually have a look at that evidence. Especially the National Academies meta-analysis, which is an evaluation of literally all the evidence in the world on whether GMOs are healthy.
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Anti-GMO would be a much more amusing term if it were pronounced an-TIG-mo.
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gleebster posted:Anti-GMO would be a much more amusing term if it were pronounced clinically retarded
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Right. Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that GMO based products have been proven to be 100 % safe. No toxin or artificial proteins or any such things. In such a (theoretical) situation, what negatives are there in putting labels on these things? Informed consumers would know that the products are safe and wouldn't care about the labels, while people who want to support natural products would have an easier time seeing what they should and shouldn't buy.
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kikkelivelho posted:Right. Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that GMO based products have been proven to be 100 % safe. No toxin or artificial proteins or any such things. In such a (theoretical) situation, what negatives are there in putting labels on these things? Informed consumers would know that the products are safe and wouldn't care about the labels, while people who want to support natural products would have an easier time seeing what they should and shouldn't buy. Consumers aren't actually informed. Natural isn't a meaningful category, and only idiots think it's worth supporting. If you are marketing a product for idiots, there's nothing stopping you from putting "GMO-free" on it voluntarily.
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kikkelivelho posted:Right. Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that GMO based products have been proven to be 100 % safe. No toxin or artificial proteins or any such things. In such a (theoretical) situation, what negatives are there in putting labels on these things? Informed consumers would know that the products are safe and wouldn't care about the labels, while people who want to support natural products would have an easier time seeing what they should and shouldn't buy.
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kikkelivelho posted:Right. Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that GMO based products have been proven to be 100 % safe. No toxin or artificial proteins or any such things. In such a (theoretical) situation, what negatives are there in putting labels on these things? Informed consumers would know that the products are safe and wouldn't care about the labels, while people who want to support natural products would have an easier time seeing what they should and shouldn't buy. how about its a waste of a manufacturers time and money, as well as a waste of taxpayer money for a public authority to monitor the regulation you realise it can be very hard to detect whether a product is GMO or not? analysis costs money and a lot of time
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of course, if you actually studied biology, you would have known this, because natural selection is very unkind to futile cycles that waste energy
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vyst posted:I literally give zero fucks if it gives me mutant powers nothing is capable of overpowering the autism vaccines already gave you friend
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