UKMT August 2016: The Month of the Dull Knives

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tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

TomViolence posted:

The efforts of socialists, anarchists and communists who participated in the civil rights movement, the campaign for women's suffrage, the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, decolonization and the gay rights movement have been largely written out of popular history and it's kind of hilarious how liberals have colonised and appropriated these struggles and their narratives to their own propagandistic ends.

The role of prominent suffragettes in British fascism is written out too, so it kinda evens out.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 18:46

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:56

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Namtab posted:

Is this guy bigging up Stalin of all people?

It's his thing.

I think maybe he has a moustache fetish.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 23:15

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

Well my first bit of critical thinking is: How come everyone who makes the mass murderer claims uses a different death toll?

Because they're estimates you wretched loving oval office?

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 23:33

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

If your estimates are -/+ 70 Million people having actually existed in living memory or not they're poo poo mate.

Do any of the estimates say 0?

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 23:42

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

I've been confronted by people who claim 100 Million. You can do maths, what's 100 - 70?

Hell, I was once told by a very angry man that Stalin killed 150 Million people, which would leave what, 15 million left in the entire USSR?

That's a no then.

So you accept that Stalin was a genocidal bastard, and you're completely fine with that.

# ¿ Aug 1, 2016 23:50

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

OwlFancier posted:

E: Except the facial hair I kind of wish I could grow that.

Have you tried genocide, that seems to bring it out?

Make sure you keep proper records of your mass murder though, or Horselord will get mad!

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 00:17

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

No. I've already mentioned that, as with all legal systems, sometimes people wrongly go to jail. Your problem is you don't think anticommunism is bad. That's why you originally had a problem with the idea that anticommunists should go to jail, which started our little part of the conversation here.

Your problem is you're an apologist for systematic mass murder.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 00:44

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

if either of us were magically transported there we would both do just as badly or worse.

Well we know for sure you would.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 01:14

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

OwlFancier posted:

Do you think perhaps that the reluctance of the shadow cabinet to work with the leadership, which I point out began immediately upon their appointment, combined with the leadership's mandate being centered around a democratic and co-operative form of policy development, would have contributed somewhat to the lack of policy announcements?

And, perhaps, do you think this may be primarily the fault of the cabinet?

Don't answer Grillo, these are trick questions!

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 19:33

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

OwlFancier posted:

That article stays nearly half of his policy is a direct copy, the rest is thematically similar, and the only major differences are

"Owen Smith is calling for a 15 per cent tax on wealth for the richest 1 per cent of the population, saying Labour has been �too timid� on tax recently.

This, along with the targets on health spending and homebuilding, the strengthening of employees� rights (points 6 and 7) and the �200bn �British New Deal� investment fund are all either new or go significantly beyond similar aspirations mentioned by Mr Corbyn."

Considering Corbyn announced a �500bn investment plan Owen Smith's primary departure from Corbyn is to have less investment and a wealth tax.

Woop de loving doo.

I think you're forgetting Owen Smith's magnum opus, the one hour contract.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 19:35

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Pissflaps posted:

About 70 million people on it, isn't there?

Flawless victory.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 21:21

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

Don't quote people on my ignore list.

Okay, promise.

Now gently caress off.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2016 21:31

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

OwlFancier posted:

If you're worried about being involved in mass shootings then being a member of the armed police response unit is probably going to be more of a contributing factor than whether you wear a balaclava while doing so.

Yeah. And their wives and children will be fine too because of ride alongs!

# ¿ Aug 3, 2016 17:25

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

HorseLord posted:

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn is not a reputable source.

Well if the KGB say so it must be true...

In other news, the CIA say Edward Snowden is always fooling around and you shouldn't take him seriously. Haha, the joker. What's he like eh? /playfully puts in headlock and rubs head

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 01:53

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

LeoMarr posted:

Stabbing attack in London. Remember folks Gun Control is the right way to go.

How would giving the stabber a gun have helped?

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 06:31

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Barry Foster posted:

Why are you responding to the most boring and obvious troll possible?

You ask me this, in a thread where people regularly post essays at Pissflaps entitled "I know you're trolling, but here's why you're wrong"?

Piss off!

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 11:17

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

That leftist is out there. He can be bargained with. He can be reasoned with. He feels pity, and remorse. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until his comparatively benign social democratic platform is enacted.

Fixed for Corbyn.

Sometimes I wonder if you fellas are actually paying attention.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 13:30

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

His main contribution to British history is not being Oliver Cromwell.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 13:58

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Paxman posted:

What is a man-bun please, because I am at work and don't want to Google it

It's a topknot, but instead of being on a Japanese feudal lord it's on a douchebag.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 15:48

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Instead?

They spent their time carving up peasants with their lovely overrated swords, which is arguably a step or two beyond douchebag.

In their defence though, they never called anything a man bun.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 16:13

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

If I wanted to pay for a blowjob somewhere I couldn't get a decent cup of tea I'd go to loving Amsterdam

There's a mam in joke here. But I'm not going there, because I like you.

And also, the queue is too big.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2016 18:27

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Fans posted:

Also since I don't have to be fair to the guy, I can point out he's a loving idiot for trying this when the deck was so clearly stacked against him.

It's not like he had anything else to do. The country is experiencing an unprecedented era of calm and plenty after all, we can afford for the opposition to descend into self destructive and utterly pointless bouts of infighting every few weeks.

edit: ~~on this day~~ yesterday 1914 the UK declare war on the vile Hun, because of his villainous empire building and also because it was too much trouble not to.

edit edit: gently caress you Earth, you turned on me.

tooterfish fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Aug 5, 2016

# ¿ Aug 5, 2016 01:09

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

The other use is when other sections of the left go overboard with the multiculturalism and end up defending regressive practices, like defending FGM because it's part of North African culture or banning Maryam Namazie from discussing the problems with Islamic theocracy because it might make someone racist.

Is there a problem with just calling these people loving morons?

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 20:54

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Sorry, I meant people of moronish descent.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 20:55

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

A few weeks ago someone in this thread wrote a short sketch in which Blackadder & co plot the Brexit campaign and gently caress it up, and it was really good. Anyone have a link to that?

I'm confused. I thought this is what happened in real life?

# ¿ Aug 7, 2016 16:49

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Astroclassicist posted:

Faragestache

https://twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/764102079325544449

He looks like he quantum leaped from a 1970s raunchy sitcom.

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 15:42

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Oberleutnant posted:

It'll be good for his opponents, who will accuse him of presiding over a stalinist totalitarian junta if he ever does it.

According to a certain someone all Stalin ever did was harmless poo poo like making jam, so....

# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 18:17

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Pissflaps posted:

If only Brexiters in this thread has stuck to voting leave ironically on a forum poll instead of being utter loving morons and doing it in the voting booth, then boasting about their terrible decision.

I don't know if you've noticed, but this thread isn't exactly representative of the UK public at large.

If it were, Red Ed would be PM right now and Facebook wouldn't be filled with morons posting "WE VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO TAKE ARE CUNTRY BACK THEREFORE WE DEMAND THE GUTLESS POLITICIANS INVOKE ARTICLE 50 AND DECLARE WAR ON FRANCE IMMEDIATELY"

# ¿ Aug 13, 2016 22:51

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

He didn't just come in third, he came in third behind "eh, gently caress it".

And this is the guy they think will win a GE?

# ¿ Aug 14, 2016 02:14

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

that "invested" should come with a massive loving asterisk after it, because PFI deals are strangling the recipients of the Labour capital expenditure programmes of 97-07. Schools, hospitals, libraries and all sorts of other institutions are having to deal with financing over-specced and poorly-built buildings at an effective double-digit interest rates, with absolutely no opportunity to refinance them while their funding is being cut.

It's almost as if using PFI to pay for these things was an incredibly short sighted and stupid thing to do. Why did no one see this coming?

If only we'd paid for this poo poo on the national credit card!

# ¿ Aug 14, 2016 21:09

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

What kind of drugs do I have to take to reach that particular conclusion from that premise?

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 01:20

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

BizarroAzrael posted:

Speaking of, it tickles me a bit that British outlets list Team GB as second on the table and China in third, apparently valuing 2 silver over 9 bronze, but I've seen US outlets list China in second. Since it's not a team competition in that there is no prize for "winning" the medal chart, is there even a formal scoring system, or does everyone just make their own?

That's the way literally everyone in the world lists them.

The USA lists it whichever way puts the USA at the top. Notably in 2008, when China beat them in the gold>silver>bronze rankings, they started to rank by total number of medals instead. Presumably when China starts beating them in medal totals too, they'll start including a loving population handicap or freedom quotient or something.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 18:16

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Jose posted:

britain have anotehr gold in the objectively worst olympic event of dressage

Dressage would be more acceptable if they gave the horse the medal.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 18:36

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

The Saurus posted:

Or do the entire ruling class just have a single collective experience/set of views?

DING DING DING!

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 18:49

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Didn't the security chief get mugged leaving the opening ceremony?

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 18:59

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

A French infiltrator!

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 19:02

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Especially when drunk.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2016 22:48

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

TomViolence posted:

We desperately need a labour leader who can "lad it out" to dodge awkward questions. Especially when they seem not to mesh with their avowed small-P patriotism. But at least Smith is equipped to identify the banal loving generica that infest popular culture, allowing him to pass the Voight-Kampf test just like pigfucker did.

Ladding it out would be to answer "a pair of cunts" and "I don't loving care" respectively.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 10:55

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Praseodymi posted:

Owen Smith trying to steal Corbyn's "Get everyone round the table" stuff...

...with ISIS.

Is he really this much of a loving idiot?

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 11:15

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:56

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

Cerv posted:

Or indeed any member of ISIS

Look all they want is for every nation state in the world to cease to exist and for their peoples to convert to Islam and become part of a new global caliphate. There's plenty of scope for negotiation there.

For example, there's a bit of wiggle room on the conversion bit. As an alternative, you can simply be thrown off a tall building, buried alive or nailed to a door and left to die slowly in the baking sun. Very reasonable people those Daesh types.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2016 12:31

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