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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Tesseraction posted:

Wake me up when September ends.

Actually do it when this loving leadership contest is over.

You never want to be woken up then?

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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LeoMarr posted:

Corbyn is still a communist wanker.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/01/may-day-photos-jeremy-corbyn-tells-thousands-of-communists-far-right-are-the-problem/

Too bad they're both wrong. Communists and nazis should be treated the same.

Hurrah, it's the one shitposter worse than Pissflaps. And of course he links to Breitbart. What a guy.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Tesseraction posted:

Seriously I'm getting rather pissed that people claim the Brexit debate made the UK more racist compared to the reality that Britain has been so loving racist you wouldn't believe. You're only noticing it now.

The Polish resident being murdered? Jo Cox being murdered in the street? You really believe this happened in the isolation of a referendum?

I envy you.

The referendum didn't make people more racist, but it does seem to have made fascists sit up & go "oooh, there's a lot more people out there than we realised, lets go kick some Paki heads in!" It's emboldened people who were already racist, rather than converted people into racists. Not that that's any better.

Gonzo McFee posted:

What, The Queen?

Nah, she'll have to sell up to some obnoxious Russian oligarch before too long. The tiny cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face part of me really loves that idea of British people being priced out of Britain. Foreigners coming over here & taking out homes rather than our jobs. But because they are rich rather than lazy benefit scrounging, job stealing parasites nobody blinks an eyelid until it's too late, no one is left in London without a Middle Eastern, Eastern European or East Asian accent, none of whom actually pay tax here, driving us deep into the sea where we truly belong.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Sep 1, 2016

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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radmonger posted:

I unironically think it would be a good idea if there was a name for the political group that considers Labour either ireedamably compromised, or at least in need of destroying and recreating, but also wants nothing to do with Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and co.

Because every time I hear a member of that group speak, they give up half way through listing and discussing the things they are against before they get to saying anything about what they do actually stand for.

Well comrade, there is a group that are covered by that. It's called anarchism & I recommend you give it a try.

Also, it's kind of bogus to include Marx in here. Marx had good ideas, even if the whole "scientific socialism" line was patently bollocks & just way to try & differentiate himself from his forebears like Saint-Simon. Kropotkin also fell in for that whole line a bit much, though there's still some good stuff in Mutual Aid, he totally over-estimated the evolutionary causes/justification (I'm not a biologist & can't think of a better word) of mutual aid.

Alternatively, if you want Labour destroyed & want nothing to do with any 19th century socialist thinkers then the ideology you are looking for is "liberalism". In which case if you could just stand in front of this wall and put on this blindfold, our firing squad will be here to deal with your request at the first available moment.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

e: 6 - Benzene is an aromatic ring of six carbon atoms and will give you cancer if you breathe enough of it. It's present in coal tar, most plant matter combustion materials, and used to be used in aftershave.

Benzene is also one of the few molecules I can remember how to draw from the many moons ago when I studied Chemistry at HIgher. Isn't it a Hexagon with a circle inside it? Or a hexagon with a line round every second edge to represent the double bonds?

Oh the joys of the hydrocarbons.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

Yeah, either the hexagon with alternating lines (Kekule) or with a circle in the middle (the other guy) are accepted ways to draw it, as long as you're consistent. In reality it's a hexagon with a ring shaped cloud of electrons (or electron probabilities if we're going quantum) above and below it, which is somewhere between a single and double bond in strength. It's unusual stability as a functional group makes it a cornerstone of a large amount of org and biochem, and it's ability to nestle in DNA and cause chromosome breaks makes it a dick.

Chemistry is fun. I wish I remembered more of it. Instead it's just a line on my CV that really has no relevance at this point. Though there was always a disappointing lack of things going boom, at least acids were always fun to play with.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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I'll just stick to alcohol thanks. If I can't just pop into the local corner shop for my drugs then it's too much effort.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Southern Railways seem unpleasant. A good advert for renationalisation. Though if Southern were being Southern on almost any other franchise (say Northern, or ScotRail) the press would write about how terrible they are a lot less often. So really, I'm glad. I hope all south eastern rail services are terrible because that's the only way the press get behind renationalisation.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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God I hate Ruth Davidson. She's been far too effective at making the Tories seem a valid choice to vote for again.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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ultrabindu posted:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/771632002172723200

Is Sturgeon really going to push for independence 2.0?

Of course. It was always going to be an inevitable consequence of a Brexit vote. Or rather, an excuse, because the SNP want Scottish independence. It's sort of why they exist & contain diverse politicians as religious loon John Mason & even a few actual socialists.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

So if they get it is the SNP going to split straight away?

No, it'll take a couple of years, as all these things to. Disentangling from a 300+ year old union can't just happen in an instance.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I meant the party.

Sorry, I was being silly.

They'll probably hang around for a couple of years because of inertia but the SNP is not a bunch of people who agree on most things. There's a lot of Tartan Tories from the rural north-east, there's the more recent converts down in the central belt who tend to be more social democrats, and it'll all come crashing down before too long assuming we get independence. That's the saving grace really.

Or I hope so anyway. Maybe they can stay together purely under the force of power. I hope not.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Coohoolin posted:

Just have an irn bru and don't be a fanny.

Somehow you manage to take "being a social butterfly" & still be massively loving goony about it so well done I guess. Some people are utterly insufferable if you're there and not drinking, convinced you're trying to make them feel bad. Which is super fun when you're not drinking because you're on some meds but don't really want to talk about why you're on them with work colleagues. Also, when you're not drinking and around a bunch of people who are drinking you realise how loving dull drunk people are, unless they are making a total tit of themselves & barely able to walk. And honestly I don't see much value seeing my colleagues in that state.

The only times I ever did the post-work drink was after 13 hour night shifts. Something about a 7am pint is just better than a 7pm pint.

RobotNinjaHornets posted:

An old Owen Smith tweet has just resurfaced

https://twitter.com/OwenSmith_MP/status/719107209494413312

I can't. I just can't.

But no Corbyn is the sexist, sorry, my mistake

Surprisingly funny for a politician to be honest.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

irn bru is awful

I will fight you for making me agree with Coohoolin but Irn Bru is, after whisky & tablet, the only good thing to come from Scotland.

Guavanaut posted:

Most jobs I've worked recently around Leicester have had enough Muslim or trad. Baptist employees that having a few people say "no thanks, I don't drink" or wanting to go for food instead of a pub isn't that unusual.

Maybe that changes in some career sectors or if you head a few miles over where being a different religion makes you some kind of alien.

A tidal wave of piss upon the east coast of England.

Yeah, working in ethnically diverse Glasgow was 100% different to the attitudes in utterly homogeneous Inverness, where English white settlers are quite exotic. A lot easier to bail out with little comment if you're in an area with a reasonably large muslim population.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

Lorne sausage too.


And Mogwai. And Teenage Fanclub were alright.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

its vile and there is something wrong with scottish people for thinking otherwise

Rest of the world is loving stupid for drinking so much Coca Cola & Pepsi despite it being mediocre

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Baron Corbyn posted:

I seriously can't wait for the day The Guardian fucks off and dies.

Which is a surefire guarantee that The Graun will never ever gently caress off.

Anyway, more important news, finally got my mittens on Liberalism: A Counter-History so hurrah for me. Another recommendation from the UKMT Socialist Book Club

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

people should only be recommending manga in the UK manga thread

I do not engage in degeneracy, I'm sorry.

Well, that type of degeneracy anyway.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Baron Corbyn posted:

He's currently trying to accuse Corbyn of being sexist on Facebook too, the loving idiot. Maybe he should try a line of attack he isn't obviously weaker on. Maybe he should also try to stop saying weird things when women are involved but whatever.

Is there any area that Owen isn't weak on?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

Still think we'd be better dropping the gendered part rather than the insult part from the word oval office.
We're not American, we've already dropped the gendered part. oval office isn't a sexist insult here. It's just the best sounding vicious insult.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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TheHoodedClaw posted:

The Cocteau Twins, dude.

Also Orange Juice, Jesus & Mary Chain, Boards of Canada, essentially I should have said "excluding music" because there's loads of cool Scottish music. But we also have Alestorm so the good is probably outweighed by the bad in fairness.

HJB posted:

Completely unrelated to everything, but regarding that theory that gets bandied about every so often about how all the good timelines have gone up in nuclear smoke, and this current timeline keeps getting weirder and weirder... I just noticed the BBC brought Goodnight Sweetheart back, and it's starting now. I'm definitely buying into that theory more and more.

I saw there was some remake of Porridge on the other night as well.

Is there really such an absence of new ideas that we have to remake things from the '70s?

Anyway, wasn't Goodnight Sweetheart the one where the main protagonist had one wife in the present & one during world war 2 & somehow we're not meant to think he's a scummy oval office?

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

i don't think scotland invented orange juice

:slick:

Of course I refer to the ever so dated sounding new wave band from Glasgow featuring Edwyn Collins

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

that's a loving tune shut up why do you hate classics belieber

Hey now, I think it's great. But it definitely sounds 80s as gently caress. In an endearing way.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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TheHoodedClaw posted:

First time listener, first time loather. loving hell, what's their audience?

Cretins. Power metal fans. Pretty much the same thing. I've heard worse Scottish bands but they tend to only play in pubs to crowds of 8 to 10 people. Alestorm are surprisingly popular within their niche. Metal is serious business. No room for this silly nonsense.

Anyway, time to put an album called Tomb of the Mutilated by well respected auteurs Cannibal Corpse.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

Nightwish, Lordi, Sabaton, Van Canto, Rammstein, Luca Turilli, HIM, and that one song by Finntroll

It's me, I am the metalhead with no shame or taste.

I present to you, the finest piece of art ever created:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WGzr9s4mGM

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. I'm not sure I can feel bad enough for you to get through all this. Wow.

Then again, there was a time I posted a Lost Horizon song in UKMT the last time we talked about Alestorm & it turned out someone liked them so I shouldn't be shocked.

Luca Turilli is in Rhapsody of Fire right? God I wish I didn't know that. So much trivia about metal bands I don't even like in my head. Like Manowar. The cover of their Anthology album is pretty much burnt into my retinas.

And that's why I mostly listen to sludge & black metal. It burns out the memories of power metal with a wonderful cleansing fire. Albeit sometimes the fire is racist. And murderous. But y'know, can't have it all.

OwlFancier posted:

You're not allowed to like european metal and care about lyrics because lol translated metal lyrics are pretty hilarious even in lyrically dependent songs.

The ones that aren't translated & are just written in English are equally trash usually. It's the saving grace of so many metal vocalists being screamers or growlers or grunters, you can't understand the trash they are singing. Who really wants to know the lyrics to I Cum Blood?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Actually listening to Yesterday Was Dramatic - Today Is OK just now. Really wonderful & chill.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

I don't listen to metal if I can't understand the lyrics, the terrible lyrics are part of the appeal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Il84l6zg5o

E: Also if you haven't yet figured out, so are the terrible videos.

Oh god, I haven't heard 3 Inches of Blood in a long time. Have one of their albums somewhere, though it's probably been lost amidst several moves. I seem to remember Deadly Sinners being a weird mix of metalcore & Manowar.

Jose posted:

metal is all loud and angry and i'm rarely in the mood for that

You'd be surprised at how much of it actually quite camp and silly. And some stuff like Electric Wizard is too stoned out of its gourd to really be angry. Definitely loud though. And there's a band that fit the silly lyrics that are also understandable category

I feel really bad for leaving out Arab Strap when I was talking about good Scottish bands. Arab Strap were pretty cool. A surprising mix of laddishness in the lyrics with quite lovely sounding electronicy indie (for lack of a better way to describe it)

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Jun 13, 2012

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StoneOfShame posted:

Guys extreme metal sucks, listen to punk, uk bass especially jungle, dub, reggae and Bruce Springsteen.
I like punk AND extreme metal. I'm a cool guy. And post-hardcore because I'm not actually cool at all.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Coohoolin posted:

Getting real tired of this JK Rowling poo poo. (Look at the timestamps)




Although this might be funny.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...y-10496548.html

If you're getting fed up of JK Rowling poo poo maybe you should ignore it. Pretty easy to do.

Random Integer posted:

Pissflaps voted remain, loudly calls people who voted for Brexit idiots (you know, the majority of people) and refuses to engage with any meaningful discussion on exactly why people may have voted for Brexit except that its Corbyns fault.Though at least thats consistent as he refuses to engage in meaningful discussion on any topic except to say that its Corbyns fault. He is exactly as out of touch as anyone else in this thread and arguably listening to people like Pissflaps is exactly why Remain lost.

Stop engaging with one of Pissflaps' little brothers.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

Most people haven't read the Bible though.

If you look at some of the other things that God chooses you could easily believe it.

One day I will get around to reading Tolstoy's The Kingdom of God is Within You because it seems like the most interesting way of interpreting Christianity from the little I know of it.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Pistol_Pete posted:

The internet's changed so gradually from the late 90's to today that you forget how clunky and basic is was until you look back at a really old website.

It's like when you see an old clip of Britain in the 80's and you're struck by how lovely all the cars in the background are and you think: "When did that change?"

Think you'll find that all changed in 1997 when our lord & saviour Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was elected Prime Minister. (The lovely cars, not the internet)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Vaz should stay. We need more people involved in that select committee who realise that drugs & sex are actually good.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Spangly A posted:

I mean I'd quite like it if mental health care involved using things that are clinically outperforming (by a loving large margin) SSRIs

but those things are illegal, and thus bad for you

This would be good, yes. Imagine a drug policy that wasn't created to appease old people who read the Mail or Express. Gosh that'd be exciting.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Gonzo McFee posted:

Imagine all of politics not being designed to placate old cunts.

I could get behind that. Now just to convince the old to stop voting & the young to start.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

such as?

I know that the psilocybin in magic mushrooms helps with severe depression. I'm sure I've heard of it being used with other conditions. Ditto LSD.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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I was going to bemoan that there surely has to be something more important to talk about than bin collections, then I checked the news & the only stories seems to be Nick Clegg being shocked that Conservatives were conservative & Keith Vaz.

Highland Council do fortnightly collections, general waste (green bin) & recycling (blue bin) on alternate Mondays, food waste & general compost stuff (brown bin) Wednesdays. The only time it's ever really a problem is at Christmas when there's a little bit more waste & less collections. Otherwise seems adequate.

Jose posted:

i'm extremely lazy about recycling stuff correctly if its going from any bin in the house that isn't the kitchen. it just goes in the regular bin

This is pretty bad & you shouldn't do that.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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floofyscorp posted:

PLP: 'We should reintroduce elections for the Shadow Cabinet(so we can block Corbyn supporters from getting these jobs)!'

Corbyn: 'Hm not a bad idea, maybe we could get members to vote in these elections.'

PLP: 'Wait, no'

That's funny. I'm not sure it's actually a good idea, but it's funny.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Someone should install a chip in Ken's brain so that every time he says Hitler or Nazi he gets an electric shock.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Spangly A posted:

gordon brown was entirely right

Dangerous words there comrade.

(Nah, kidding. It's true enough.)

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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The Saurus posted:

How did the 1975 EEC referendum win with such a stonking majority when the electorate was made up of even older olds than in 2016?

Because old people in 1975 weren't wretched Boomers & actually experienced loving horrid inevitable consequences of a divided Europe?

Just a guess mind.

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