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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
You're sitting alone at home, the lights are off and your face is illuminated only by the sickly glow of your computer screen. Your phone buzzes unexpectedly, jarring you. Unknown Number. You answer uncertainly.
"Hello?"
"Hello."
"Who's this?"
"It's Hope."
But hope died years ago. OooooOooooooo! :spooky:


Welcome to the UKMT, where the Spectre of Marxism fights the animated corpse of neoliberalism. And Oberleutnant writes us a spooky reading list.
(Also UK Mega Thread; UK Manga Thread; Undead Kuomintang :zombie:)


Answer: No. :getin:

That has been the theme of the past month as we approached the annual Labour Party Conference, and now we wait to see what petit sabotage Corbyn's increased leadership mandate will bring.

In The News :sax:
• David Cameron resigns from the House of Commons shortly after stepping down as leader and shortly before picking up a cushy job somewhere probably.
• Ex-SNP MP Natalie McGarry is charged with multiple counts of fraud because of all the fraud she did.
• Diane James is elected the new leader of post-relevance UKIP.
• Manchester have planned to 're-negotiate' the contracts of the entire fire department, without asking the union. There's no way that this will turn out terrible.
• Brexit may have devastating consequences for Sunderland as Nissan wants compensation for any tariffs levied by Europe.
• Keith Vaz is widely exposed in the press for his nepotism expenses fraud paying for legal mansex in what was definitely not tabloid a sting operation. He resigns as chair of the Home Affairs Committee.
• Theresa May forgets that meritocracy is not a complement and announces new grammar schools, as well as looser restrictions for faith schools so that they can teach kids about creationism and fetal personhood, but probably not Islam.
• In conjunction with the above, the Conservative Party announces plans to deregulate child protection, allowing Local Authorities to opt-out of almost any duty imposed by children's legislation passed in the last 80 years.
• After the resignation of another senior figure from the investigation into historic child abuse, the Sun and Mail both call for it to be scrapped.

TomViolence posted:

Was this country just built from the ground up (or more likely from the very bowels of hell itself up) expressly for the purpose of fiddling taxes and diddling kids? Is there something down there, something dark and nameless and ageless and faceless growing fat on our misery, waiting until it's time to emerge? Are we retaining trident not to deter other nuclear powers, but instead as a final failsafe in case the dark heart of Great Britain should some day wake?
Answer: Yes. :frogsiren:

Halloween News :spooky:
• Eerie episodes of corporate incompetence as Concentrix accuses woman of cohabiting with a spooky ghost


:drac: A Compendium of Strange and Dark Tales :drac:

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quote:

1. It's not a person's fault if they are poor;
2. It's not their fault if they are disabled;
3. Neo-liberalism doesn't work;
4. The Daily Mail lies (maybe even about Pig Dave and charity);
5. Neo-liberalism has never worked;
6. The British Empire was not a force for good;
7. Neo-liberalism will never work;
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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Nuclear power is good

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Just putting that out there

The Insect Court
Nov 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

jabby posted:

So Jackie Walker has been suspended from Labour for her appallingly poorly-judged comments about anti-Semitism and Holocaust Memorial day. Apparently there's also a Momentum meeting on Monday that will probably kick her out of her vice-chair job.

What is it about certain people that when they are accused of something like this they can't just keep their mouths shut?

Because she exists within a political milieu where claims about the present existence of antisemitism are reflexively attacked and dismissed as sinister attempts at intimidation, and is constantly affirmed by her political allies in the belief that insisting that Jews were behind the slave trade or that Hitler was a Zionist is just a "historical fact" and anyone expressing the view that it's bigoted or problematic is a cynical attempt to silence them?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Nuclear power is good
Nuclear power is good. Nuclear Powers are generally not.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Guavanaut posted:

Nuclear power is good. Nuclear Powers are generally not.

It wasn't connected to the quote in the op, op

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's not October yet.

E: Ok no it is but my computer has apparently been running 30 minute slow, I blame the EU.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Goddammit Guav your threadlock ate my post :argh:


tl;dr: OwlFancier and Jakiri, I am aware of duck problems. I don't particularly care about the specific incident the paper chose to lead with, I just thought it was an interesting miniature example of one of the main reasons why unregulated privatisation is shortsighted and dumb.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

It's not October yet.

E: Ok no it is but my computer has apparently been running 30 minute slow, I blame the EU.
Does it not regularly update your clock from a network time server? I thought all OSes did that now.

Renaissance Robot posted:

Goddammit Guav your threadlock ate my post :argh:


tl;dr: OwlFancier and Jakiri, I am aware of duck problems. I don't particularly care about the specific incident the paper chose to lead with, I just thought it was an interesting miniature example of one of the main reasons why unregulated privatisation is shortsighted and dumb.
Sorry :shobon:

But surely you see that incentivized private employees will work harder and not just go after the easiest and stupidest cases instead of spending time and effort dealing with fly tippers and serious litterers? :v:

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Renaissance Robot posted:

tl;dr: OwlFancier and Jakiri, I am aware of duck problems. I don't particularly care about the specific incident the paper chose to lead with, I just thought it was an interesting miniature example of one of the main reasons why unregulated privatisation is shortsighted and dumb.

Oh I know full well that it doesn't justify anything (especially non-duck related incidents), I just found it amusing to imagine that they did

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Feeding ducks in a no-duck zone, 5 months isocube.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Does it not regularly update your clock from a network time server? I thought all OSes did that now.

It's supposed to yes but until I told it to do it just now it apparently hadn't in a while, might be cos my bios battery is dead so whenever someone cuts the power to the case it buggers the clock up.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1201FK

quote:

Jaguar Land Rover (TAMO.NS) will "realign its thinking" on investment after Britain's vote to leave the EU and if Nissan gets a Brexit compensation deal then other automakers would need a level playing field, Britain's biggest carmaker said.
Somehow I don't think "realign our thinking" means "invest loads more money". OTOH, Britane Stronk, Resolutely Strive For The Juche Brexit Ideal.

I wonder if Solihull and Liverpool votef Leave like Sunderland did.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
Top title.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

https://twitter.com/parliawint/status/779747279037198336

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

Zephro posted:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1201FK

Somehow I don't think "realign our thinking" means "invest loads more money". OTOH, Britane Stronk, Resolutely Strive For The Juche Brexit Ideal.

I wonder if Solihull and Liverpool votef Leave like Sunderland did.

Liverpool is still pretty left wing and hasn't fallen to ukippery, they voted remain

Solihul l on the other hand voted leave because it's in the Midlands and bad

Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.
Workers appropriate the factory and machinery when company leaves. Local community piles on to fend off the authorities. Workers form co-op to design and manufacture own vehicles. Do it. I dare you.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
that would be awesome but it looks more like they are just going to bitch at the government to bail them out from the consequences of their actions

which would probably still be the sensible thing to do, much as I think they can go gently caress themselves, subsidising nissan is probably cheaper than economically devastating sunderland

too bad we have a tory government, maybe they should have noticed that before jeopardising their own (and a lot of other peoples) future

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I give it 2 weeks before Corbyn is accused of something bullshit and the media will uncritically declare he not only did it but also declared Death To Israel as he did.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


That optimistic? 5 days past the weekend at best IMO.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Ducks loving love to eat bread

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

I think its great that Corvachev is putsching the blairitis and returning order to the left in his own image.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
When is he going to murder all the loving arabs loving up our country and making us all poor and stupid? WHEN?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Nuclear power is good

I think you mean spooklear power

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

baka kaba posted:

I think you mean spooklear power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjq-9sdcY0U

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Kokoro Wish posted:

Workers appropriate the factory and machinery when company leaves. Local community piles on to fend off the authorities. Workers form co-op to design and manufacture own vehicles. Do it. I dare you.

I know that when I buy a car, I certainly look for the manufacturer who cannot obtain any legal enforcement of its contracts with suppliers or indeed give a poo poo about any quality commitments it would have with me

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Cars are a symbol of bourgeois excess and individualism. Surely it'd be much more Correct to have proper public transport and mass transit.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
Perhaps. There is an obvious tension between endorsing the right of transport labour to strike as their primary means of defending their interests, versus having town and social planners prescribe it as the primary mode of transport. You cannot run an industrial city of tens of millions conditional on fifty odd thousand resisting fits of pique.

Other countries may go with one or the other. I suspect that by the time British society sorts that tension out, it would be moot anyway, and the greater cultural struggle would shift to whether it is alright to further enclose roads from pedestrians and cyclists so that the flow of self-driving cars is not unduly delayed.

Paul.Power
Feb 7, 2009

The three roles of APCs:
Transports.
Supply trucks.
Distractions.

JFairfax posted:

Ducks loving love to eat bread
People love to eat fast food, that doesn't mean it's good for them.

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

Good job on the OP, Guavanaut. :)

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
Worth a read (if not depressing for a saturday morning).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37517619

Pesmerga
Aug 1, 2005

So nice to eat you
That OP was brilliant Guavanaut, nice work!

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

XMNN posted:

Liverpool is still pretty left wing and hasn't fallen to ukippery, they voted remain

The only good thing the Sun has ever done, in a manner of sorts.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

ronya posted:

Perhaps. There is an obvious tension between endorsing the right of transport labour to strike as their primary means of defending their interests, versus having town and social planners prescribe it as the primary mode of transport. You cannot run an industrial city of tens of millions conditional on fifty odd thousand resisting fits of pique.

I would argue London is already primarily reliant on public transport. By and large it works out OK.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
Tory government in policy that DOESN'T poo poo on the sick shocker http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37526324

Rakosi
May 5, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
NO-QUARTERMASTER


From the river (of Palestinian blood) to the sea (of Palestinian tears)

Marmaduke! posted:

Tory government in policy that DOESN'T poo poo on the sick shocker http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37526324

Good job, Tory scum

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

feedmegin posted:

I would argue London is already primarily reliant on public transport. By and large it works out OK.

I agree, with caveats. One is that "reliance" is not measured in terms of a plural majority in volume terms (which is not yet a reality in central London, never mind outer London), but instead in that disruption would nonetheless be substantive if its (large) minority share were impacted.

The other caveat is that significant legislative and policy action has gone toward weakening the strike powers of rail and bus workers since the 1980s. Atop that the labour bodies seem to absorbed the idea that 1) calling for country-paralyzing general strikes does not make them more popular, and that 2) yes, when organized labour makes itself sufficiently unpopular, the country will vote for Thatcherite figures to openly denounce strikers as the enemy within and then destroy them, and 3) contra rhetoric, labour does not actually win those resulting confrontations. 1980s-vintage internal agitprop makes for morbid reading, with the benefit of hindsight. The pattern of 1-day strikes nowadays is not an accident - it is a gesture to demonstrate commitment but limit disruption-induced unpopularity. But I digress. The point is that the growth in reliance and policy embrace of mass transit has gone hand-in-hand with gentrification and limitation of the frequency of disruption.

ronya fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Oct 1, 2016

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


HJB posted:

The only good thing the Sun has ever done, in a manner of sorts.

Agreed. Can't help but wonder what Liverpool would be like today if it wasn't for Kelvin McKenzie's utter bullshit.

And let me join in on complimenting Guavanaut (or for Halloween month should it be Goveanaut? Because nothing is scarier than Sarah Vine's columns describing her sex life with Michael Gove) on the OP.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

forkboy84 posted:

Agreed. Can't help but wonder what Liverpool would be like today if it wasn't for Kelvin McKenzie's utter bullshit.

relative Labour strength in Liverpool led to an exceptionally New Labour-aligned government focused on urban regeneration and undermining the prominent dock strike of the 1990s. Left-leaning disenchantment with this style of government led to a Lib Dem surge that would last more than a decade. The Lib Dem government of course doubled down on even more urban regeneration, and all the enormous effort of the strikers into garnering support from allied youth protest groups evaporated into a middle-class campaign celebrating itself as a victorious social movement, despite not actually obtaining any concessions. 1979 this was not.

decades of policy focus on urban regeneration would culminate in a relatively successful and cosmopolitan city, nonetheless

ronya fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Oct 1, 2016

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Looke
Aug 2, 2013

op extra spoopy 10/10

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