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Here's the charts, we all love charts Group E  Group F  Hoping for funny wins for Japan (possible) and Costa Rica (unlikely) as well as whatever is needed for MAROC to go through. Blegum not winning (guaranteed) I guess. Canada can score a goal if they like, as a treat.
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We love our charts don't we folks Always liked costa rica
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Dec 1, 2022 12:11
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This is the first day of fixtures where I'm almost entirely disinterested, I just don't care who advances out of either of those groups. I guess it would be funny if Costa Rica won and Spain lost.
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Dec 1, 2022 12:15
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Japan and Costa Rica advancing would be comedy gold. Germany deserve to go out, but that top right corner is depressingly likely.
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Dec 1, 2022 12:37
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We all love the chart I would love Japan and Costa Rica and Croatia to win today
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Dec 1, 2022 13:05
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charts charts charts charts *banging on the table* Charts! Charts! Charts! Charts! *everybody joins in* CHARTS CHARTS CHARTS CHARTS
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Dec 1, 2022 13:18
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it means Canada losing but the funniest result in Group F is definitely Morocco and Croatia finishing 1st and 2nd but which is which goes all the way to fair play
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Dec 1, 2022 13:19
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I hope the lady refs do ok and aren't horrendously abused/forced to do the second half in a headscarf.
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Dec 1, 2022 13:59
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COME ON CANADA *BANG BANG BANG* GET A loving POINT!
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Dec 1, 2022 14:22
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hoping for Japan and Costa Rica to go through and Blegum to have an embarrassing loss and crash out
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Dec 1, 2022 14:22
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hot sharts praying for Belgium, Germany, and Spain to all poo poo the bed
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Dec 1, 2022 14:34
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https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/1598310964830650368?t=lAlr-4rzCHH82Jceb5tWbQ&s=19 Reposting it here Canada playing the b team lol Estaquio injured, Hutch and jonathan david on the bench lol 
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Dec 1, 2022 14:46
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it is possible for canada to finish ahead of belgium
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Dec 1, 2022 14:54
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Hand Knit posted:it is possible for canada to finish ahead of belgium Should be, but it needs a decent swing in goal difference.
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Dec 1, 2022 14:56
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TheRat posted:Should be, but it needs a decent swing in goal difference. canada needs to win by two and belgium needs to lose by at least one (and i guess have the goals-for work out) and, you know what? I'm gonna choose to believe
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Dec 1, 2022 14:58
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Hand Knit posted:canada needs to win by two and belgium needs to lose by at least one (and i guess have the goals-for work out) and, you know what? I'm gonna choose to believe I believe
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Dec 1, 2022 15:05
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Hand Knit posted:canada needs to win by two and belgium needs to lose by at least one (and i guess have the goals-for work out) and, you know what? I'm gonna choose to believe We Can
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Dec 1, 2022 15:07
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stab posted:COME ON CANADA
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Dec 1, 2022 15:17
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meant to click preview whoops, not done yet
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Dec 1, 2022 15:18
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Lol Davies is playing on the right side away from Ziyech and Hakimi Bold strategy Cotton
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Dec 1, 2022 15:32
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hoping all the C teams win today. and japan, ideally
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Dec 1, 2022 15:41
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Ok folks, this is going to be the longest one yet. I'll try to keep the other three shorter. Canada Morocco Referee: Raphael CLAUS (BRA) VAR: Julio Bascuñan (CHI) I was starting to wonder if the #1 Brazilian at the tournament would work again in the group stages after Sampaio had already worked twice. But here he is! He had England Iran. Biggest issues in that was the VAR, really - Claus did fine, maybe slightly below average for what we have seen elsewhere in the World Cup, but nothing really disqualifying there. This might be the "easiest" game of the day so I think this might be a way to try to keep his hands clean for the knockouts. Croatia Belgium Referee: Anthony TAYLOR (ENG) VAR: Marco Fritz (GER) Anthony Taylor on relatively short rest gets another crack at it. It looks like FIFA were really pleased with his performance in South Korea / Ghana to line him up that fast. Good to know that the red card was supported. The duel between him and Oliver for the knockouts is going to be fun to watch - I thought Taylor was good the other day, and Oliver seemed great yesterday, so we'll see if Taylor can respond. Japan Spain Referee: Victor GOMES (RSA) VAR: Fernando Guerrero (MEX) Gomes had France and Australia previously, and I can't really remember anything about it to be honest. Guerrero, the VAR, was the one who sent down the handball changed to a free kick coming out in Tunisia Denmark and recommended the offside in Morocco Belgium that was reviewed for interfering with an opponent. He was paired with his compatriot Ramos in both of those games. Costa Rica Germany Referee: Stéphanie FRAPPART (FRA) AR1: Neuza Back (BRA) AR2: Karen Diaz Medina (MEX) VAR: Drew Fischer (CAN) Offside AVAR (2): Kathryn Nesbitt (USA) Alright. Let me start with this: Stéphanie Frappart is, objectively, in the top tier of referees in the world. She works Ligue 1, she's worked in the Champions League (albeit barely - almost feels like they realized she never had and gave her a game in November), the Europa League, and the Nations League. I hope she does extremely well today and that all we are doing is laughing about Costa Rica's antics after the game. But she is not ready for this game. She may see it through, but, objectively, she's not ready for it. She seems to be somewhere between like 7 and 10ish in France's version of the select group. That's an amazing accomplishment and I don't want to put anyone down who has gotten to that level. But it would be like, say, Chris Kavanagh from the Premier League working this game. Chris is in the upper echelon of world referees, but that's just not good enough for what you expect at the world cup from UEFA. Yeah, maybe when you have to grade on a curve, the 4th or 5th guy out of CONCACAF isn't particularly strong. But consider István Kovács. He did a quarterfinal at the U17 world cup, did a match at Euro 2020, has worked in the semi finals of the Champions League, and had the Conference League final. Kovacs is at the World Cup as a 4th official only, it appears, because Frappart is working this match. This appointment is pretty surprising. It seemed like there was a lot of jockeying for her to have the opener, then that didn't happen. Then as upsets kept happening, you start to say "ok, no true dead rubbers, where can she fit?". I think if it weren't for Argentina yesterday asking for Neutrality to be abandoned, it's possible Frappart isn't on this game. FIFA put themselves between a rock and a hard place here - you cant make a big deal about bringing all of these Women referee and then never put them on the field. Well, I say can't, they shouldn't anyway. They did the same thing about the Olympics - made a big deal that "actually, the referee pool is completely open, any referee we brought could do either men's or women's matches" and then never crossed the line. I think this being in Qatar plus that previous "attempt" really put the pressure on them to make this happen. Part of me was wondering if they would just keep her away from everything and just give her the third place game since they considered her for the opener, but I'm glad they thought better of it. So... why this game? If Costa Rica upset Germany and a team a lot of people thought could win this go out because of something Frappart does wrong, there will be huge repercussions for women doing these games in the future. It's a huge gamble by FIFA. The best theory I have read on "Why this?" comes down to Germany and the US being some of her biggest proponents here. The theory is FIFA went "Ok, Germany, you wanted her here and to work, you can have her on your game - Costa Rica, your CONCACAF member US felt the same way, so, here you go, take it up with CONCACAF if you have any complaints." My biggest issue here is that if you have the goal to have a woman working at the world cup, you could have made a plan to do it and started preparing her years in advance. Target 2026. Send her to all of the Youth World Cups (the Youth World Cup tends to be the proving ground for referees for the world cup - most world cup referees have attended at least one of these). Give her more time to work her way up in the Champions League. Send her to the Euros and the Olympics (and actually give her matches this time). There was a way for this to happen where FIFA built credibility for this appointment by name recognition and just relevant experience, and instead they did nothing of that. That is extremely unfair to Frappart. I'm also a little bothered with the trio they selected. She's worked with french ARs and she's comfortable with them - use those. She's comfortable with them. This is going to be a tough enough hill to climb as it is, why pair her with people she has almost certainly never worked with before? (This will be the first time since the 2002 world cup, I believe, where a trio crosses a Confederation border.) Again, these women are in the top tier of referees in the world and they all work in their domestic top flight, so they are good referees! But... why in the world is Kathryn Nesbitt in the VOR and not on the field? Nesbitt has worked in the Gold Cup, she's worked world cup qualifiers, and she has been working in the MLS since 2015. Kathryn has seen CONCACAF up close and personal - she knows the kind of bullcrap that is about to happen out there. And instead, she's in the VOR. I get that Diaz Medina is also from CONCACAF, but she is not nearly as experienced as Nesbitt. Back, the other AR, didn't work a single world cup qualifier this cycle, as best I can tell, so Nesbitt could have slotted in there, too! The TL;DR: Frappart is a good referee. She shouldn't be on an elimination match at the world cup. FIFA have set her up for failure here almost at every turn - not sending her to a YWC, not letting her work the Men's Olympics, not letting her work with people she has worked with before. I hope she does well but I am very worried
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chaoslord posted:Alright. Let me start with this: Stéphanie Frappart is, objectively, in the top tier of referees in the world. I really hope she does well. The internet is going to be an unbearable shitshow if she makes a big mistake.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:55
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Canada undisputed anthem winners
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Dec 1, 2022 15:56
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stab posted:Canada undisputed anthem winners the moroccan one is a banger. minor key for an anthem is pretty sweet
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Dec 1, 2022 15:58
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Presumably she can blow a whistle and run around for an hour and a half and let var make up it's bleep boop robot mind? She'll be fine.
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Dec 1, 2022 15:59
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lol ten seconds
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Dec 1, 2022 16:01
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00:10 goal would have been 
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Dec 1, 2022 16:01
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Belgium might want to wake up and play some football
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Dec 1, 2022 16:02
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If only a historical metaphor for poor Belgian defences existed, alas
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Dec 1, 2022 16:03
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jfc Borjan
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Dec 1, 2022 16:04
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lmao Canada
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Dec 1, 2022 16:04
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Of course I picked Belgium-Croatia to watch and missed 
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Dec 1, 2022 16:04
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I'll kind of be glad when Borjan isn't the first choice keeper
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Dec 1, 2022 16:04
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lmao what
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Dec 1, 2022 16:05
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Jfc borjan
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Dec 1, 2022 16:05
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ah, well, nevertheless
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Dec 1, 2022 16:05
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Oh dear.
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Dec 1, 2022 16:06
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Blegum are going to get battered and they deserve it for not starting my boy Wout Faes
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Real clown defending by Borjan there
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