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I like that the Sony doesn't have a keyboard, it just takes up space on the Kindle and i never use it.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Kinda cool double tapping a word and having the dictionary pop open automatically. God yes, this is the best feature. I never realised how many words I thought I knew but actually didn't because I was too lazy to go and find a dictionary.
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Apr 17, 2011 22:22
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Yeah, the Nook Color does the word lookup thing too, it's pretty neat. Also cool is the highlighting feature, so you can bookmark and highlight passages and then get back to them later easily. You can also copy/paste them to an email to yourself if you need to use them in something and don't feel like retyping, which I actually had to use the other day for a powerpoint presentation.
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Apr 17, 2011 22:29
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Mu Zeta posted:I like that the Sony doesn't have a keyboard, it just takes up space on the Kindle and i never use it. I like the keyboard being there because then I can hold it by the bottom of the device without touching the screen. How does this work with Sony readers, or the Nook even? You have to get fingerprints on it?
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Apr 17, 2011 22:33
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:The only reasons I like my sony moreso than the kindle or nook : It doesn't just feel tougher, it is tougher. My PRS-505 took a lot of drops without any damage, while my Kindle took one drop and the case popped open (fortunately I could just pop it back together).
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Apr 18, 2011 00:54
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Centipeed posted:I like the keyboard being there because then I can hold it by the bottom of the device without touching the screen. The edges of the Nook are big enough that you can hold it by the edges, or you can hold it by the touchscreen (not the reading screen) if you like. As long as the touchscreen isn't lit up, it won't register you touching it, unless you're swiping it for a page turn.
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Apr 18, 2011 01:26
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On the sony, there are buttons on the bottom to use as page turners and menu options, so you aren't tied to using the screen for everything. Agreed with the toughness. I dropped my 500 hard enough to gouge a chunk out of the bottom side of the screen, and it's still rocking on. The 505 came with an awesome leather case that survived about a year and a half in my duffel bag that I drug to work everyday. It's still going strong, but I sold it to a dude in russia. The 650 didn't come with a case, but I bought a cheap kindle one on ebay when I was trying them out and it fits "good enough". They builds em tough.
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Apr 18, 2011 03:56
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Sony always designs high quality hardware, it's just that software side that is godawful.
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Apr 18, 2011 04:24
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Hey... it probably took them at least a whole weekend to design the library software < >Agreed though, I only use it to buy books. Everything else gets lobbed into calibre.
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Apr 18, 2011 04:30
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Mu Zeta posted:Sony always designs high quality hardware, it's just that software side that is godawful. Which is why i keep going back and forth between the K3 and the Sony PRS350 (nook isnt sold here and cant be bothered sorting out getting one from the states).
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Apr 18, 2011 12:10
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I recently dropped my Kindle from a height of about 6-7 feet onto a concrete floor and it landed on its screen. No damage whatsoever.
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Apr 18, 2011 14:21
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maxnmona posted:I recently dropped my Kindle from a height of about 6-7 feet onto a concrete floor and it landed on its screen. No damage whatsoever. My kindle dropped from about 3 feet onto concrete and ended up with an inch of dead screen. I suspect this is because it landed on a corner at an angle just right to pull it apart a tiny bit. I doubt it would have broken if I weren't too cheap to buy a case.
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Apr 18, 2011 14:45
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Seems like the ongoing demise of Borders is causing Kobos to go for dirt cheap now. Or were they always this low? They seem to be starting around $60 on eBay, which puts that stupid ad-supported Kindle to shame. Granted they're not really equivalent, but the Kobo also does the library DRM stuff that the Kindle won't. It's pretty drat tempting, even if it is kind of the most feature-poor of the e-ink readers.
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Apr 18, 2011 20:13
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CrashCat posted:Seems like the ongoing demise of Borders is causing Kobos to go for dirt cheap now. Or were they always this low? They seem to be starting around $60 on eBay, which puts that stupid ad-supported Kindle to shame. Granted they're not really equivalent, but the Kobo also does the library DRM stuff that the Kindle won't. It's pretty drat tempting, even if it is kind of the most feature-poor of the e-ink readers. A new Kobo is just around the corner (Fathers Day) so the price is dropping across the board. Borders owns a minority stock in Kobo, Kobo is primarily owned by Chapters Indigo.
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Apr 18, 2011 21:17
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CrashCat posted:Seems like the ongoing demise of Borders is causing Kobos to go for dirt cheap now. Or were they always this low? They seem to be starting around $60 on eBay, which puts that stupid ad-supported Kindle to shame. Granted they're not really equivalent, but the Kobo also does the library DRM stuff that the Kindle won't. It's pretty drat tempting, even if it is kind of the most feature-poor of the e-ink readers. I didn't know about the new Kobo, but borders stores going out of business are selling them for $50 (I got one for my g/f), so I would imagine there are people buying them cheap and selling them to people who dont realize it isn't worth that much. My opinion on Kindle durability is the Kindle is light enough that a case isn't that much more weight, and I would not recommend using a kindle without a case. Keyboard wise I really appreciate it for browsing for exact books off Amazon and for making occassion notes. If you are using it just for reading I don't see the need for a touchscreen, but I do really like the keyboard just for that occassional use. Someone please remind me to update the OP when the Kobo 2 is released.
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Apr 19, 2011 01:20
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Duckman2008 posted:I didn't know about the new Kobo, but borders stores going out of business are selling them for $50 (I got one for my g/f), so I would imagine there are people buying them cheap and selling them to people who dont realize it isn't worth that much.
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Apr 19, 2011 01:27
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I posted this a while ago, but while the thread is on the subject of Kindle durability, the Otterbox case is a nice option.  I haven't deliberately abused mine or anything, but it has been thrown around a bit and has had no malfunctions.
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Apr 19, 2011 01:44
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poo poo, that is exactly the case I need. My keyboard's letters are wearing off already - amazon credited me enough to buy the lovely little nokey 'case' but it looked like a sticker rather than an actual case so I never got it.
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Apr 19, 2011 02:26
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What do you guys think about ePUB in general? I like it for short reads, but I prefer reader-specific formatting for clarity of text.
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Apr 19, 2011 02:32
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You are seeing the difference in formatting between different files, it doesn't have anything to do with the format.
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Apr 19, 2011 02:52
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The Rat posted:I posted this a while ago, but while the thread is on the subject of Kindle durability, the Otterbox case is a nice option. What's all the gross white gunk all over the front of it? Is it felt or something that gets all kinds of poo poo sticking to it?
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Apr 19, 2011 09:00
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The Rat posted:Do they still make one for kindle 2's? I couldn't find anything on amazon.
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Apr 19, 2011 14:43
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epicstop posted:What do you guys think about ePUB in general? I like it for short reads, but I prefer reader-specific formatting for clarity of text. What does this even mean?
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Apr 19, 2011 18:55
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Maneki Neko posted:Amazon Warehouse Deals has the Black Lighted Kindle 3 cover for $14.99. Apparently condition varies, but some people report getting brand new covers: Edit: Found a discussion on SlickDeals: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2835707
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Apr 19, 2011 20:21
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smackfu posted:$25 now, but still a good deal if they are in respectable shape. Where did you see people reporting what they got? I bought one at $15 a few days ago, and I received a brand new cover... as far as I could tell.
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Apr 19, 2011 20:30
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Ara posted:What's all the gross white gunk all over the front of it? Is it felt or something that gets all kinds of poo poo sticking to it? The rubber area tends to get lint stuck to it. LooseChanj posted:Do they still make one for kindle 2's? I couldn't find anything on amazon. Unfortunately not, just the 3 and I think maybe the DX.
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Apr 19, 2011 23:32
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Any rumours on the Kindle 4? If it weren't against God and against nature, I'd marry my Kindle 3.
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Apr 20, 2011 03:11
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Any rumours on the Kindle 4? If it weren't against God and against nature, I'd marry my Kindle 3. Since they've just announced an advertisement-supported version of the Kindle 3, I doubt they'll be invalidating it with a Kindle 4 any time soon.
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Apr 20, 2011 12:13
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There's not much that can be improved at this point. I guess they have to wait for e-ink technology to advance for color or something. Battery life is great, size/weight is great, the only thing keeping people from buying these is the high price.
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Apr 20, 2011 12:32
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Good news although none of my local libraries have ebooks (as far as I know)quote:Customers will be able to borrow Kindle books from over 11,000 local libraries to read on Kindle and free Kindle reading apps http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1552678&highlight=
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Apr 20, 2011 14:29
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Sporadic posted:Good news although none of my local libraries have ebooks (as far as I know) But I guess I'll still have a better selection of other stuff available thanks to Kindle's stubborn format war.
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Apr 20, 2011 14:59
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Mu Zeta posted:There's not much that can be improved at this point. I guess they have to wait for e-ink technology to advance for color or something. Battery life is great, size/weight is great, the only thing keeping people from buying these is the high price.
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Apr 20, 2011 16:35
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CrashCat posted:But I guess I'll still have a better selection of other stuff available thanks to Kindle's stubborn format war. There is no ebook format war. All ebook formats can be easily converted between if they don't have DRM applied; essentially they're all just slightly different containers for HTML text. DRM'ed ebooks are more tied to DRM than to formats; you can't move a iBooks ePub book onto a Nook for example.
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Apr 20, 2011 16:35
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CrashCat posted:Yeah, it figures after I finally decide a Kobo is about the right price and would let me get library books, Amazon finally cuts a deal with Overdrive. There's some instant buyer's remorse for you. Don't get too excited yet. I'm worried about the wording of the announcement. It almost sounds like libraries will have to buy Kindle format books instead of Kindles being able to open the formats already offered by Overdrive. There is a format war and I don't think it'll be wrapped up this quickly and nicely. Though I didn't think Amazon would ever allow library books on the Kindle, either. I still don't think they'll open all the gates.
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Mobi has been around for ages longer than EPUB has, and they both offer almost exactly the same features, and are both essentially HTML, XML, and attachments like images, contained in a optionally compressed archive container. The only "war" here is the mutually incompatible DRM schemes from each provider. If you remove that it's perfectly convertible.
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Apr 20, 2011 18:49
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fishmech posted:Mobi has been around for ages longer than EPUB has, and they both offer almost exactly the same features, and are both essentially HTML, XML, and attachments like images, contained in a optionally compressed archive container. Except ePub is like the free open source format, so it doesn't really have any DRM? No matter how you split it, Amazon is being a bunch of tools by not swapping to EPUB, since it's basically the new standard... it's like arguing about PNGs (EPUB) vs TGAs (mobi), or plain TXT files vs WordPerfect's old retardo TXT file format that no one uses anymore. (WPT)
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Apr 20, 2011 19:17
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Fuzz posted:Except ePub is like the free open source format, so it doesn't really have any DRM? What are you talking about? Nooks use DRMed EPubs. DRM is unrelated to the format it's in.
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Apr 20, 2011 19:21
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I am sure they will mature over the next few years, but right now even major metropolitan libraries have an extremely poor selection of ebooks and most of the ones anyone would want are constantly checked out. At first I was disappointed that the kindle didn't do library loans like the nook, but I quickly discovered that private lending sites vastly eclipse libraries in their selection and wait times.
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Apr 20, 2011 19:25
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fishmech posted:Mobi has been around for ages longer than EPUB has, and they both offer almost exactly the same features, and are both essentially HTML, XML, and attachments like images, contained in a optionally compressed archive container. Agreed. It reminds me of AAC/MP3. Amazon is in the same position as Apple. They never have to change because they are the top of the pile.
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Doctor Meat posted:I am sure they will mature over the next few years, but right now even major metropolitan libraries have an extremely poor selection of ebooks and most of the ones anyone would want are constantly checked out. No, don't expect it to get better. Expect it to get worse. Since the publishers are now renegotiating their licenses with libraries to limit the number of total lends per eBook (to mimic real wear and tear of course!) combined with the general lack of funds to run things like libraries, I would expect ebooks to start to be phased out of lending.
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