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Strenuous Manflurry posted:You mean IN A DUNGEON MATCH. Nope due to Jarret concussion its a as Tony says a "Catch As Catch Can" match
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Iskanderson posted:His brains were too scrambled for him to realize that he needed to see a doctor, and nobody in charge of anything at WCW could recognize his symptoms so he went on being involved in things and taking bumps which exacerbated his condition. He eventually did see a doctor, who told him that he was done wrestling. As stupid as WCW was I don't think any organization would have helped him much at that point. The mentality was to work through the pain and concussions weren't as feared as they are now.
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MassRayPer posted:As stupid as WCW was I don't think any organization would have helped him much at that point. The mentality was to work through the pain and concussions weren't as feared as they are now. Also he would have come back but he then had the stroke.
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bobkatt013 posted:Nope due to Jarret concussion its a as Tony says a "Catch As Catch Can" match A concussion he suffered because Benoit did the headbutt off the top of a cage a few days prior, no less.
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Oatgan posted:A concussion he suffered because Benoit did the headbutt off the top of a cage a few days prior, no less. The story as told has always been that Jarrett got the concussion from Snuka's splash.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:The story as told has always been that Jarrett got the concussion from Snuka's splash. Either way he got one from a murderer.
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TenaciousJ posted:He would have been fine if he had not been shoved down our throats too fast. He needed a few years to cultivate more intense fan reactions before main eventing. The Jeff Jarrett MMA enthusiast and world's greatest dad we've been getting for the last few years feels a lot more natural than the Chosen One. I even liked the Chosen One. But he's not great enough to justify 10 world title reigns for 1,064 days total.
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bobkatt013 posted:Nope due to Jarret concussion its a as Tony says a "Catch As Catch Can" match Catch is a European wrestling style where holds were more important than moves, if that makes sense. Dean Malenko would be a perfect person for that match, since he knows 1000 holds. Catch also has a rule where leaving the ring is a loss, like in Sumo or the more familiar count-out.
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bobkatt013 posted:Either way he got one from a murderer. Dear god I lost it.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Catch is a European wrestling style where holds were more important than moves, if that makes sense. Dean Malenko would be a perfect person for that match, since he knows 1000 holds. Catch also has a rule where leaving the ring is a loss, like in Sumo or the more familiar count-out. I just hope Dean remembers the rules of the match
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Astro7x posted:The ladder match was pretty good for its time, but by todays standards it was pretty tame. It didn't even make the most sense storyline wise at the time. Why would the nWo agree to a ladder match on a PPV where they can't use their bias ref to prevent Eddie from retaining? Syxx does a lot drugs.
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bobkatt013 posted:I hope not. It has one of the stupidest moments in WCW history, Dean Malenko v Kidman first person touches the floor.
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Iskanderson posted:His brains were too scrambled for him to realize that he needed to see a doctor, and nobody in charge of anything at WCW could recognize his symptoms so he went on being involved in things and taking bumps which exacerbated his condition. He eventually did see a doctor, who told him that he was done wrestling. Strenuous Manflurry posted:Speaking of Souled Out, are we going to watch the Souled Out from 2000?
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I posted:Did Deano legitimately screw up with that one? Yep. Dean would regularly go for a breather outside at the time and he forgot the silly stip for a moment.
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Perry Normal posted:Yep. Dean would regularly go for a breather outside at the time and he forgot the silly stip for a moment. I think he was trying to forget he was ever in WCW at that point. Like whenever he would go out for a breather he would just magically wake up and find himself somewhere where the company appreciated his work. Only to wake up disappointed each time.
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I'd bet he got chewed out in the back which made him go ahead and ditch with Benoit/Eddie/Saturn. Perhaps it was Russo who was crying about his beautiful artistic vision of the Catch as Catch Can match and how Dean ruined this revolutionary match type forever. I can definitely see that leading to a "...Yeah, I'm done here." I kind of think Malenko's continued employment with WWE as a road agent at least shows someone in charge appreciates his talent. He was only active for 2 years in WWF, so it's not like he's keeping his job on charity and goodwill.
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:I'd bet he got chewed out in the back which made him go ahead and ditch with Benoit/Eddie/Saturn. Perhaps it was Russo who was crying about his beautiful artistic vision of the Catch as Catch Can match and how Dean ruined this revolutionary match type forever. I can definitely see that leading to a "...Yeah, I'm done here." He is keeping it based off fear
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bobkatt013 posted:He is keeping it based off fear How do you explain Finlay being future endeavoured?
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Z-Magic posted:How do you explain Finlay being future endeavoured? Dean told him
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Sue Denim posted:Thanks! You may be the only person with fond memories of that PPV.
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Z-Magic posted:How do you explain Finlay being future endeavoured? Considering what Finlay did in SMASH, they probably did it to save themselves. 
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:I'd bet he got chewed out in the back which made him go ahead and ditch with Benoit/Eddie/Saturn. Perhaps it was Russo who was crying about his beautiful artistic vision of the Catch as Catch Can match and how Dean ruined this revolutionary match type forever. I can definitely see that leading to a "...Yeah, I'm done here." Russo was already sent home at the time. And Russo being demoted and replaced with Sullivan is exactly what caused Malenko, Eddie, Saturn, and Benoit to say "Yeah I'm done" and demand their releases. I know, normally you might think probably think WCW firing Russo would be a good thing for wrestling. It's kind of odd and ironic that WCW ended up losing the 4 best workers in the company over management balking at the idea to put the title on Tank Abbott.
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Wheresmy5bucks posted:I kind of think Malenko's continued employment with WWE as a road agent at least shows someone in charge appreciates his talent. He was only active for 2 years in WWF, so it's not like he's keeping his job on charity and goodwill. his match with Scotty 2 Hotty at (I think) Backlash 2000 was loving awesome. I knew Scotty as a comedy guy with limited skills, but after that Malenko made him look like a loving world beater.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Russo was already sent home at the time. And Russo being demoted and replaced with Sullivan is exactly what caused Malenko, Eddie, Saturn, and Benoit to say "Yeah I'm done" and demand their releases. It's unbelievable.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:his match with Scotty 2 Hotty at (I think) Backlash 2000 was loving awesome. I knew Scotty as a comedy guy with limited skills, but after that Malenko made him look like a loving world beater. Still, I have to acknowledge that Santino Marella may be even better at being Scotty 2 Hotty than Scotty 2 Hotty, but I have not seen nearly as much of the former's work.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Russo was already sent home at the time. And Russo being demoted and replaced with Sullivan is exactly what caused Malenko, Eddie, Saturn, and Benoit to say "Yeah I'm done" and demand their releases. It wasn't just Abbott. Russo completely tanked their buyrates, booked two of their top stars in angles that injured them severely plus booked an angle that put their new signing Jarrett out for the Souled Out PPV. Abbott was just the straw that broke the camel's back. He had to go and the booking committee headed by Sullivan was their only solution. It was idiotic to release the four guys on top of that when they easily could have said "Stop being a child murdering baby, you stole the man's wife and he's willing to give you the title, we're not releasing you." Instead they released them.
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Quarex posted:Scotty 2 Hotty was so good, though. I am not saying he was the best wrestler, but I do not remember him ever looking bad in the ring, and more than one time I recall him being part of a best thing about a Royal Rumble (courtesy of Torrent's opinions, sup bro): the year when he, Grandmasta Sexay, and Rikishi ended up the only ones in the ring and busted out the dance party, and the year that Undertaker and Kane were alone in the ring when he was the next entrant and basically walked down the aisle looking like he was walking to the electric chair. Also the thing about Scotty 2 Hotty is listen to the pops that Too Cool used to get, and then remember that nobody ever gave a gently caress about Brian Christopher.
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Hirams Bitch posted:Also the thing about Scotty 2 Hotty is listen to the pops that Too Cool used to get, and then remember that nobody ever gave a gently caress about Brian Christopher. They were also in this awesome match http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM42kg3kFMI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97cd5f5Ox9k
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Hirams Bitch posted:Also the thing about Scotty 2 Hotty is listen to the pops that Too Cool used to get, and then remember that nobody ever gave a gently caress about Brian Christopher. The best evidence of this is probably the fact that Brian Christopher's big return during the Lawler/Cole feud had less crowd reaction than welcoming Mad Dog Vachon into the WWE Hall of Fame. Why did I just pick that example? Seriously though, bring back Scotty 2 Hotty. I know you are reading this thread, Vince.
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Brian Christopher's return was absolutely amazing. His furious dancing had him gassed before he even hit the ring.
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Oatgan posted:Brian Christopher's return was absolutely amazing. His furious dancing had him gassed before he even hit the ring. I liked how much of a total douchebag he was. Christopher was always great at playing a complete maniacal douchebag and this never got used to its full advantage in the WWE because he was in such a popular midcard tag team. I'm not saying he could have been a big star but the guy was easier to hate than Heath Slater in Memphis.
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Lone Rogue posted:I liked how much of a total douchebag he was. Christopher was always great at playing a complete maniacal douchebag and this never got used to its full advantage in the WWE because he was in such a popular midcard tag team. I'm not saying he could have been a big star but the guy was easier to hate than Heath Slater in Memphis. Having met Brian many times as a kid going to Saturday morning studio wrestling I can say confidently that he was not 'playing' a douchebag at all. He was one of the worst about talking to the kids or doing autographs after the shows.
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The only good thing about Brian Christopher's career was every time JR had to say "Grandmaster Sex-ay."
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MassRayPer posted:It wasn't just Abbott. Russo completely tanked their buyrates, booked two of their top stars in angles that injured them severely plus booked an angle that put their new signing Jarrett out for the Souled Out PPV. Abbott was just the straw that broke the camel's back. He had to go and the booking committee headed by Sullivan was their only solution. It was idiotic to release the four guys on top of that when they easily could have said "Stop being a child murdering baby, you stole the man's wife and he's willing to give you the title, we're not releasing you." Didn't all that become moot when Mike Graham threatened to cut up one of them if they hosed up his situation in the company though? As I recall, they let them all go without fuss to avoid being sued for having a person in some position of authority threatening to murder talent. Man, gently caress Mike Graham. Yeah, we all get a laugh when he says "broke 1,000 guitars, never drew a dime" about Jarrett, but who the gently caress ever paid money to see Mike Graham wrestle?
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Hirams Bitch posted:Also the thing about Scotty 2 Hotty is listen to the pops that Too Cool used to get, and then remember that nobody ever gave a gently caress about Brian Christopher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar7vkKi6Obk Attitude Era, please come back.
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Did Too Cool ever hold the belts? Man, they were over as gently caress for a time. The worm was almost on the level as the people's elbow in terms of audience reaction, which is crazy looking back.
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:Did Too Cool ever hold the belts? Man, they were over as gently caress for a time. The worm was almost on the level as the people's elbow in terms of audience reaction, which is crazy looking back. Scotty and Sexay held the belts for like a month in 2000 ending E&C's first reign. Scotty and Rikishi had the WWE Tag Team Championship (the one that was created for Smackdown after the brand split) in 2004.
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Scotty is a real nice dude. That's Scotty visiting my cousin in the hospital and Lil' BJR snuck in for the photo op.
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Perry Normal posted:Man, gently caress Mike Graham. Yeah, we all get a laugh when he says "broke 1,000 guitars, never drew a dime" about Jarrett, but who the gently caress ever paid money to see Mike Graham wrestle? Mike either doesn't get that he owes his entire career and position in wrestling to his dad, or he's been ignoring it/overcompensating for decades. He's like Greg Gagne, only even more of an rear end in a top hat.
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Perry Normal posted:Didn't all that become moot when Mike Graham threatened to cut up one of them if they hosed up his situation in the company though? As I recall, they let them all go without fuss to avoid being sued for having a person in some position of authority threatening to murder talent. That is true, I forgot about that one.
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