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Captain Foo posted:What's the difference between a Frankensteiner and a huricanrana? EDIT-- Speaking of Steiner and head impact in WWF, this Steiner Screwdriver to Owen Hart is absolutely terrifying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaoXG2JPhu0&t=2m07s Minidust fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 4, 2012 |
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triplexpac posted:I wonder how many WWE fans would have been familiar with him though. I guess ECW was pretty popular and the WWE fans were hardcore enough to be familiar with it?
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I know I personally didn't watch ECW PPVs, just because I lived on a farm and didn't have cable or any access to ECW shows. I was pretty familiar with the roster though, because I read wrestling magazines & later on the internet, and they both covered it. Anyway, by the time RVD got into WWE I had seen a couple of his matches from ECW and knew he was a big deal in that company, but that's about it. My point is a bit conveluted, but basically I'm trying to remember if RVD was immediately seen by the WWE audience as a big deal, or if he won them over with his work & charisma. Comparing him to Punk, Punk was big in smarky areas but he didn't get super over with the majority of fans until he could show off his skills.
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May 4, 2012 18:41
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triplexpac posted:I know I personally didn't watch ECW PPVs, just because I lived on a farm and didn't have cable or any access to ECW shows. I was pretty familiar with the roster though, because I read wrestling magazines & later on the internet, and they both covered it. He was over with pretty much every hardcore fan immediately and seeing those people react coupled with his incredibly crowd friendly style pushed him over the top.
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I just loved that RVD was super over and the WWE didn't really know what to do with him. He was clearly the star of the Invasion, they had him somewhat butt heads with Austin, but it was a case like Jericho in 2000: the crowd reacted big for him, but he was pushed IC-title level at best most times.
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sportsgenius86 posted:He was over with pretty much every hardcore fan immediately and seeing those people react coupled with his incredibly crowd friendly style pushed him over the top. He also had the airbrushed ying yang and dragons
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bobkatt013 posted:He also had the airbrushed ying yang and dragons Not to mention he really stepped up his game in the ring when he first got there.
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I just remember the Smackdown from Canada during the Invasion that led to a RVD/Austin main event and the crowd was just going ape poo poo over RVD. Probably one of the best reactions ever during the segment where Austin said he was gonna have a match with whoever came in the locker room door next and it was.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypsm4_ZQx5Y 89 fucked around with this message at 19:54 on May 4, 2012 |
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May 4, 2012 19:46
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Minidust posted:EDIT-- Speaking of Steiner and head impact in WWF, this Steiner Screwdriver to Owen Hart is absolutely terrifying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaoXG2JPhu0&t=2m07s The Steiners had a reputation in the WWF as stiffing the gently caress out of people they didn't like. They liked the Harts. 
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Minidust posted:When Scott did a standing Frankensteiner in WWF it was sold like a head-impact move. Today's hurricaranas are treated more like fancy armdrags. I don't know if the different naming has to do with that though. It's probably the top rope / "who is doing it" factor as others have pointed out.
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89 posted:I just remember the Smackdown from Canada during the Invasion that led to a RVD/Austin main event and the crowd was just going ape poo poo over RVD. Probably one of the best reactions ever during the segment where Austin said he was gonna have a match with whoever came in the locker room door next and it was.... What is that last noise Austin makes before walking out the door?
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Minidust posted:EDIT-- Speaking of Steiner and head impact in WWF, this Steiner Screwdriver to Owen Hart is absolutely terrifying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaoXG2JPhu0&t=2m07s drat do I ever miss tag team wrestling. Also, it is really easy to forget that Scott Steiner used to be the person in that video.
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Sears Poncho posted:Also, it is really easy to forget that Scott Steiner used to be the person in that video. Incidentally, a question that does not deserve its own thread(!!!): Can anyone tell me if there was ever a time besides  this hilarious thing where Abdullah the Butcher appeared in the promotion unexpectedly to attack someone? I want to say he was helping Cactus Jack fight Sting. My earliest wrestling memory is of J.R. (maybe) saying "IT'S ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER!" when he appeared to do whatever it is he was doing. Maybe it was this clip, but what the hell do I know, I was like 7.
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Didn't Abbdullah attack Sting by coming out of a giant birthday present? I know this is an absurd sentence but this is WCW we're talking about.
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Bearnt! posted:What is that last noise Austin makes before walking out the door? Something amazing. HEHHH.
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matrocious posted:Didn't Abbdullah attack Sting by coming out of a giant birthday present? I know this is an absurd sentence but this is WCW we're talking about.
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Quarex posted:Yeah, that was the video I linked. Looks like I made the link too subtle. Let me fix that. I assume that you're just thinking of the same thing. We seem to be around the same age in our fandom, and I have a very similar memory -- and it's exactly what you linked to. I remember it being sold like it's a crazy dude that we ought to know, but I had no idea who he was. 
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Was it ever confirmed that Abdullah has Hep C? I know an indy worker was suing Abby but a case like this would be easy to prove.
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nasboat posted:I remember it being sold like it's a crazy dude that we ought to know, but I had no idea who he was. Because Jim Ross is one of the best wrestling announcers that has ever lived. I remember watching this too, I had no clue who Abdula the Butcher was, but when Jim Ross started going I was like, "OH NO NOT ABDULLA THE BUTCHER!!!"
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budreck posted:Was it ever confirmed that Abdullah has Hep C? I know an indy worker was suing Abby but a case like this would be easy to prove. Abby denies having Hepatitis C. TV network up in Canada did a feature on the situation: http://www.globalnews.ca/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442526822
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May 5, 2012 20:31
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Bob Orton has it though.
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Jack Krauser posted:Bob Orton has it though. A tragic accident when he was having his cast removed. A shame, really.
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Jack Krauser posted:Bob Orton has it though. I AM JAUNDICED AND FATIGUED I NEED TO PEE
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nasboat posted:I assume that you're just thinking of the same thing. We seem to be around the same age in our fandom, and I have a very similar memory -- and it's exactly what you linked to. I remember it being sold like it's a crazy dude that we ought to know, but I had no idea who he was. maniacripper posted:I remember watching this too, I had no clue who Abdula the Butcher was, but when Jim Ross started going I was like, "OH NO NOT ABDULLA THE BUTCHER!!!"  WHO IS ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER "
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Wasn't that whole "gift box" poo poo a common thing in WCW or was it just that one angle with Sting and Luger? Sting received a whole bunch of those. One was a woman, another was Abdullah the Butcher and the last one he got was Lex Luger jumping out and clipping his knee which led to their match at SuperBrawl II. BTW...if you're ever in Atlanta, go to Abdullah's House of Chinese Food & Ribs. I went there about four years ago. The food is typical poo poo, but he's got all kinds of cool pictures and poo poo up on the wall, and he's usually there. He's got that fork that he used on Terry Funk in a glass case too.
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I'd be afraid of using any of the cutlery in that place.
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Flameingblack posted:Yes, probably. House shows run at smaller arenas so they don't use a ton of the sets that they use for TV. I think they actually have seperate truck/ring crews for house shows, I'm not sure. It's in a pretty big arena, and they don't come to Glasgow that often, but it always sells out so I assume they put on a good show. Judging by the floor size and seating chart the ring looks to be about full size, just need to find someone to take that won't laugh at me for watching wrestling!
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I come to you, beloved thread, with two questions: 1. Was Booker T given Goldust as a lackey as some kind of punishment that ended up becoming the Modern Day Dusty Rhodes & Sweet Sapphire? I could be misremembering Goldust's status at the time, but I feel like people had completely stopped caring about him, until suddenly his relationship with Booker T was so amazing in every way that they both got more over in the process. 2. How many "guarantees" did Mr. McMahon make? As in, of course, the wonderful period where whenever he "guaranteed" something (uh oh, there's that word again) it would, in fact, actually happen.
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Quarex posted:I come to you, beloved thread, with two questions: If I remember correctly, Booker was kinda aimless by the time he teamed up with Goldust, so it wasn't so much a punishment as it was something for both of them to do. This was after his feud with the Rock, I believe, and shortly after his megafeud with Chris Jercho over a shampoo endorsement. Quarex posted:2. How many "guarantees" did Mr. McMahon make? As in, of course, the wonderful period where whenever he "guaranteed" something (uh oh, there's that word again) it would, in fact, actually happen. Is this in-story, or in real life, back when McMahon business statements actually held weight?
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought Edge was the one he feuded with over the shampoo endorsement? this is correct.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Is this in-story, or in real life, back when McMahon business statements actually held weight? In-story, there was a time where if McMahon said something would happen and then guaranteed it, it would always happen (although not always in the way it was foreshadowed). So if he guaranteed Austin would not leave the next PPV with the title, Austin would not leave the next PPV with the title. He did it a couple times and then everyone caught on and it was pretty cool.
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Hirams Bitch posted:In-story, there was a time where if McMahon said something would happen and then guaranteed it, it would always happen (although not always in the way it was foreshadowed). So if he guaranteed Austin would not leave the next PPV with the title, Austin would not leave the next PPV with the title. He did it a couple times and then everyone caught on and it was pretty cool. This sounds like an awesome way to swerve the smarks. For instance, "I guarantee Stone Cold won't leave the next pay per view with the championship." And then someone steals the belt after the match. Then "I guarantee Stone Cold will be in an unfortunate and debilitating accident by the night's end." And then they do that Charlie Chaplin thing where the front of a fake house or interview segment set falls on him and Austin is standing where an open window happens to be. But someone is hit by a real piece of it, like Coach or John Matthews. And then when people catch on. "At Wrestlemania, Stone Cold Steve Austin will be pinned by The Rock, 1, 2, 3." Then Stone Cold loses clean via pinfall in ten minutes.
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought Edge was the one he feuded with over the shampoo endorsement? Shame on you for correcting me!
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I'm watching a Legends of Wrestling episode and they're talking about Oklahoma and how insulting it was to JR and they start showing footage of it... Did WCW really do a pinata on a pole match?
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Orgophlax posted:I'm watching a Legends of Wrestling episode and they're talking about Oklahoma and how insulting it was to JR and they start showing footage of it... Yes yes they did. It was horrible. They also had a cruiserweight match ends with one getting hit with a bottle of tequila.
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bobkatt013 posted:Yes yes they did. It was horrible. They also had a cruiserweight match ends with one getting hit with a bottle of tequila. That was apparently a gift to Bischoff (in real life, not kayfabe) from...I want to say Juvi?
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What are some examples of Vince using the WWE to air his personal grievances/opinions? The RTC was obviously him hating the PTC. I also seem to remember him cutting a promo on the US Government once
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triplexpac posted:What are some examples of Vince using the WWE to air his personal grievances/opinions? Well the Billionaire Ted stuff immediately springs to mind.
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