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Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Does anyone have any tips for how I should be using my inn stash?

Within about 20 minutes I was all but encumbered and I don't really have any reference point for what I need to be hanging on to.

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The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

If you're not planning on using it in the field then put it in the stash. You can enhance items using materials from your stash, they don't need to be in your inventory. I recommend carrying a few skeleton keys (shackles + various ores) around with you because if you don't you'll inevitably end up wishing you had.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

tooooooo bad posted:

So if I want to play a Magic Archer it's best to build to it from a Mage or Sorcerer? Their main damage stat is magic?

Also where are all of the rats hiding?

You can build a magic class from Striders as well. They gain decent magic stats while leveling.

Best spot I found for rats so far is the well in the starting town. Just don't go very deep unless you're prepared for a challenging fight.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


Mokinokaro posted:

You can build a magic class from Striders as well. They gain decent magic stats while leveling.

Best spot I found for rats so far is the well in the starting town. Just don't go very deep unless you're prepared for a challenging fight.

I went straight from a level 10 strider to a magic archer and it was fine. Its probably the best of the less than level 10 stat growths if you want to try out a bunch of different classes.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




I really have no problem switching myself and my pawn's classes. The first few levels of the vocation suck, but once you reach about level 6 the damage is just fine.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
So what's up with the command chair? The questions seem to change so I can't always control every aspect of my pawn. I'm sure some people have accidentally picked "talk more" but I can't seem to get the question to come up again.

As for my mage pawn, I've been picking things like "guard me the most, attack my enemy" but I haven't seen anything specifically about not being a dipshit and charge first in your robes and wizard hat.

Do you just have to hit the chair regularly as you quest to really mold them or is it simply a matter of only equipping your mage with heal/cure spells if you want to them to JUST heal?

Mindey Tyrone
Jun 21, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Rascyc posted:

So what's up with the command chair? The questions seem to change so I can't always control every aspect of my pawn. I'm sure some people have accidentally picked "talk more" but I can't seem to get the question to come up again.

As for my mage pawn, I've been picking things like "guard me the most, attack my enemy" but I haven't seen anything specifically about not being a dipshit and charge first in your robes and wizard hat.

Do you just have to hit the chair regularly as you quest to really mold them or is it simply a matter of only equipping your mage with heal/cure spells if you want to them to JUST heal?

Yeah, this is the only aspect of this game I hate, that you have to constantly keep reusing the command chair until you get the question you want.

Hatter106
Nov 25, 2006

bolshi fight za homosex

Jimbot posted:

Why the class only uses 3 skills is beyond me, but any advice on real good ones to equip would be appreciated.

Folks keep bringing up the 3 skills thing. Your skills are tied to your weapon in each hand. Fighters get six, for example - three for sword, three for shield. Warriors have one two-handed weapon, hence, only three skills. Three loving powerful skills.

I don't particularly agree with it but it's not out of nowhere.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
They should have taken the easy way out and given warriors shouts to use with the left hand. Or given them a horn and let them toot a horn if married to the idea that an item has to be in their hand.

grrarg
Feb 14, 2011

Don't lose your head over it.

Hatter106 posted:

Folks keep bringing up the 3 skills thing. Your skills are tied to your weapon in each hand. Fighters get six, for example - three for sword, three for shield. Warriors have one two-handed weapon, hence, only three skills. Three loving powerful skills.

I don't particularly agree with it but it's not out of nowhere.
The problem with that argument is that mages and sorcerers get three primary and three secondary spells with a two-handed staff. Warriors should get three secondary skills too.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Holy poo poo that end boss fight was amazing. One of the best boss fights I've ever played.

ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Where the sam hell is Valmiro? I'm chilling at the bandit camp in Vestad Hills, I got the grimoire already, but dude's nowhere to be seen. The map mark seems to indicate he's somewhere in the main campgrounds, but he's not down there. Is he below the encampment somewhere?

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

-Blackadder- posted:

Is there anything significant that happens based on whether or not I let Marcelo (dude in the catacombs, after the Salvation ceremony) live or kill him?

Drizvolta posted:

If you kill him you become best buddies and he gives you more quests. If only the Audence with the Duke hadn't canceled all my quests :(

Is this a typo? I should kill him to make him my friend and get more quests?

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Any reason to bother doing the Duke's quest after you get his approval?

Besides the large amounts of exp and moola of course.

Shalinor
Jun 10, 2002

Can I buy you a rootbeer?
I was originally going to go staff and bow for my Magick archer, but I'm finding that the spells just kind of suck compared to bow. None seem to have the range necessary to make up for their long charge times, and it seems like melee would make more sense.

Is it worth sticking with staves at all, if I came into this from Strider? Or are daggers definitely the way to go, with magic best saved for a later playthrough as a sorcerer specifically?

... mostly, I dropped daggers because they took ensnare. drat, do I wish I could ensare as a Magick archer.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I was reading the (extremely excellent!) OP to try to decide for the last time if I should go buy this, and

:stare: did that guy just light himself on fire then climb on the back of that chimera thing to do damage, that is black101 as hell :stare:

BlanketCar
Jun 29, 2008
I'm about level 10 and am having trouble finding quests to do. The ones I accept are ridiculously hard. I know it's supposed to be a tough game, but is there a general quest path I should follow until I'm higher level?

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

Uhh did I miss something? I talked to the duchess like once and gave her a silly hat and next thing I know I'm being invited into her room at night and being beaten and thrown in jail for doing so.



[e] Anybody have any favorite recipes? I just realized that I haven't even touched that stuff even though my stash is full of materials.

DrManiac fucked around with this message at 17:12 on May 25, 2012

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

BlanketCar posted:

I'm about level 10 and am having trouble finding quests to do. The ones I accept are ridiculously hard. I know it's supposed to be a tough game, but is there a general quest path I should follow until I'm higher level?

The only quests that seemed above my level when I took them were the escort quests to Shadow Fort and Bloodsomething Beach. Those will take you, basically, all the way across the map.

BlanketCar
Jun 29, 2008

-Blackadder- posted:

The only quests that seemed above my level when I took them were the escort quests to Shadow Fort and Bloodsomething Beach. Those will take you, basically, all the way across the map.

Should I be in Gran Soren accepting lots of quests from the board?

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Ledneh posted:

I was reading the (extremely excellent!) OP to try to decide for the last time if I should go buy this, and


:stare: did that guy just light himself on fire then climb on the back of that chimera thing to do damage, that is black101 as hell :stare:

Yeah, that gif has made me want the game when I had no desire to play it. So hows the replay value for the game?

Hatter106
Nov 25, 2006

bolshi fight za homosex
Oh yeah, anyone encounter the Ur-Dragon yet?

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:
Not since Sacred 2 have I been attacked by so many Wolves at one time, dozens of the things came running out of the darkness, closely followed by some bandits and a few goblins, my Main Pawn Tank had some fun there.

In other news, I'm playing as a Strider, with a female Conan as my buddy and 2 mages for healing and spell flinging, so far its going pretty well, its not half as hard as I thought it would be as enemies really hate arrows.

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

So is it even possible to beat the Dragon in Devilfire Grove at level 24 or should I just avoid it for now?

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

BlanketCar posted:

Should I be in Gran Soren accepting lots of quests from the board?

Eh, that's debatable and you might want to have someone farther along than me to chime in. There have been some mention of quests eventually expiring but I haven't had any do that yet. And I haven't seen people complain about it of late. I think a lot of the board quests are open world kill quests (like Kill 36 skeletons) which I'm pretty sure are fine to grab since you don't know exactly when you'll doing them, I'd imagine they won't expire any time soon but that's just me guessing, to be honest. The board also has the above mentioned escort quests which are long and grueling. I made the mistake of doing the Shadow Fort escort quest pretty much right after I first got to Gran Soren and it was a long crazy journey filled with me running away a lot. But you'll get great gear for a warrior for escorting ser berne and a fighter for merceades. "Troublesome Tome" is another quest that took me waaaaaay off track, was long as hell, and had me running to practically the most extreme section of the map. So I might hold off on that one initially if you get it, as well. But ultimately it's up to you and again, I'd see what these higher level goons say about it.

As far as quests at your level, I would imagine that sticking closely to the main story quest would invariably take you to places where the monsters are at your level. And at level ten yes, you should be in Gran Soren, and following the main quest from there which I think is "Lure of the Depths" or something where you go under Gran Soren. I think you get it from Barnaby in the Pawn guild, in the Crafters district.

-Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 17:33 on May 25, 2012

BlanketCar
Jun 29, 2008

-Blackadder- posted:

Eh, that's debatable and you might want to have someone farther along than me to chime in. There have been some mention of quests eventually expiring but I haven't had any do that yet. And I haven't seen people complain about it of late. I think a lot of the board quests are open world kill quests (like Kill 36 skeletons) which I'm pretty sure are fine to grab since you don't know exactly when you'll doing them, I'd imagine they won't expire any time soon but that's just me guessing, to be honest. The board also has the above mentioned escort quests which are long and grueling. I made the mistake of doing the Shadow Fort escort quest pretty much right after I first got to Gran Soren and it was a long crazy journey filled with me running away a lot. But you'll get great gear for a warrior for escorting ser berne and a fighter for merceades. "Troublesome Tome" is another quest that took me waaaaaay off track, was long as hell, and had me running to practically the most extreme section of the map. So I might hold off on that one in
itially if you get it, as well. But ultimately it's up to you and again, I'd see what these higher level goons say about it.

As far as quests at your level, I would imagine that sticking closely to the main story quest would invariably take you to places where the monsters are at your level. And at level ten yes, you should be in Gran Soren, and following the main quest from there which I think is "Lure of the Depths" or something where you go under Gran Soren.
Apparently I missed a great deal of quests in Cassardis. It seemed pretty barren to me so I just went straight to Gran Soren. I'll go back and try to find those before I move on. Thanks for your help!

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Judge Tesla posted:

Not since Sacred 2 have I been attacked by so many Wolves at one time, dozens of the things came running out of the darkness, closely followed by some bandits and a few goblins, my Main Pawn Tank had some fun there.

I got attacked by so many direwolves at night, that it was almost morning when I finally killed the last one. They just kept on coming, like they were being created by the darkness itself. Got a load of pelts and fangs, though.

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.

BlanketCar posted:

Apparently I missed a great deal of quests in Cassardis. It seemed pretty barren to me so I just went straight to Gran Soren. I'll go back and try to find those before I move on. Thanks for your help!

Yeah, that's a good idea to grab those if you missed, them. Here's a spoiler guide to the Cassardis quests, that I came across earlier (although too late to make them worth doing for me). It might help you, though.

Nyancromancer
Dec 31, 2008

Did anyone else just get a "Dragon's Dogma service isn't available" message on Xbox?

Also, warrior is a whole lot more fun that I was expecting. They really put a lot of effort into making the classes fun.

Nyancromancer fucked around with this message at 17:43 on May 25, 2012

Bryaugh
Mar 7, 2004

Oh man, just had an awesome time fighting the griffin in the Bluemoon Tower. I hiked over there and managed to squeak out a victory against some extremely assholish bandits and night had already fallen by the time I reached the gates making the ruins awesomely spooky. I wonder if the first scripted encounter area is always dark and stormy when you get there though. Has anyone gone through the place at daytime? It just seemed to fitting how there was all this lightning going on and then in the lull just afterwords dawn broke just in time for me to ascend those long stairs with my bros for the final showdown.

Also, I'm glad that I decided to give the grimoire to Steffen instead of making a forgery like I was thinking about doing, since he shows up to help. I thought those quests were just random filler and never expected anything to come from doing them, this game really is full of nice little touches.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Hatter106 posted:

Oh yeah, anyone encounter the Ur-Dragon yet?

No, but I think I know where it spawns. I'm betting it's a post game only monster.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
I'm loving this thread (and the game to boot). "Why are the pawns female?" *makes female pawn* "B-b-but mine's different."

I have a female pawn and a female main character at the moment, based on my "good" and "evil" Shepards from ME. Dorky as gently caress. But after borrowing someone's giant bearded mage and seeing the accidental Harry Potter on the last page, I really want to make Harry and Hagrid for my next playthrough.

ChibiSoma
Apr 13, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

ArubaIsAwesome posted:

Did anyone else just get a "Dragon's Dogma service isn't available" message on Xbox?

Also, warrior is a whole lot more fun that I was expecting. They really put a lot of effort into making the classes fun.

Yup. Seems the servers are flaky at times. I've gotten it a few times since I got the game. Worst part is you still have to sit and watch the Accessing Server bar stall out after you 'sleep' at the inn. :v:

Lemme update my pawn, game!

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Anyone care to spoil for me where I find the idol for the 2 Idol quests? There are many levels of challenge I enjoy in this game but blindly searching isn't personally one for me.

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


LibbyM posted:

Anyone care to spoil for me where I find the idol for the 2 Idol quests? There are many levels of challenge I enjoy in this game but blindly searching isn't personally one for me.

I only know where bronze ones are, but there's one in the Cave of the Dragonforged and another in the Witch's Hut in the Witchwood.

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Tricky posted:

I only know where bronze ones are, but there's one in the Cave of the Dragonforged and another in the Witch's Hut in the Witchwood.

Awesome, thanks.
If I find better idols later, after having completed the quests, can I still give them to the vendors?

Tricky
Jun 12, 2007

after a great meal i like to lie on the ground and feel like garbage


LibbyM posted:

Awesome, thanks.
If I find better idols later, after having completed the quests, can I still give them to the vendors?

Probably not until you do the quest on a new game plus, but honestly I don't think it makes a huge difference. I believe that the new gear is mostly just the enchanted stuff, which is very situational.

Shalinor
Jun 10, 2002

Can I buy you a rootbeer?

DrNutt posted:

I'm loving this thread (and the game to boot). "Why are the pawns female?" *makes female pawn* "B-b-but mine's different."
I made the ugliest, fattest possible little dwarf man, and named him GnomeChomsky. He seems to get used a lot. I like to imagine that someone goes into the rift, and a ton of weird little anime girls walk out... and then he sort of sclumps in, in his intentionally mismatched, horrible clothes.

For a while, I had him in those leather thong wrap leg things, but I look forward to finding some of the revealing girl outfits for him.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Ledneh posted:

I was reading the (extremely excellent!) OP to try to decide for the last time if I should go buy this, and


:stare: did that guy just light himself on fire then climb on the back of that chimera thing to do damage, that is black101 as hell :stare:

Magick Archer is basically the best class. (I am kind of sad that that is a dagger skill when I'm focused on staves, though.)

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Shalinor posted:

I made the ugliest, fattest possible little dwarf man, and named him GnomeChomsky. He seems to get used a lot. I like to imagine that someone goes into the rift, and a ton of weird little anime girls walk out... and then he sort of sclumps in, in his intentionally mismatched, horrible clothes.

For a while, I had him in those leather thong wrap leg things, but I look forward to finding some of the revealing girl outfits for him.
Yeah, the number of four foot tall women (they look more like that than actual children) I have seen, especially for mages, is staggering. Everyone seems to think that they are the only person who thought of doing that.

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