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I'm going through Atlantis for the first time, I just saw the exploding tumours episode. I could tell what was coming the whole time, hoping I was wrong. Beckett was my favourite character too :/
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Pwnstar posted:I'm going through Atlantis for the first time, I just saw the exploding tumours episode. I could tell what was coming the whole time, hoping I was wrong. Beckett was my favourite character too :/ Beckett was a great character. Beckett, I think, was intentionally cast to be a Stargate rendition of McCoy's character from ST:TOS. Are you doing a marathon viewing on Netflix? If so, what Season/Episode are you on now? I'm finishing up my 8th or 9th run through the entire series as I type this. By the end of your first run through, I imagine McKay will be your favorite. It might take a second time around to appreciate the McKay-Sheppard dynamic.
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Jun 27, 2012 17:37
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OK I've made it past the Atlantis episode with the singing, is it plain sailing from now on?
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Jun 27, 2012 17:46
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Tsaedje posted:OK I've made it past the Atlantis episode with the singing, is it plain sailing from now on? the singing? Are you referring to The Siege? With Teyla singing to the one elder who is dying? GuardianOfAsgaard posted:It's 'Critical Mass' in Season 2, not The Siege. Just double checked. You're right. It's 'Critical Mass.' I knew her singing took place while the city was in danger of imminent destruction. A lot of episodes start to blend together when you stream the series as background noise too often. To Tsaedje. Yes it gets better in my opinion. Though, the show could have done without one character's story arc. Or have done it a hell of a lot differently. You will know when you hit that part in the series if you haven't already. It's wishful thinking on my part, but the series could still be salvageable. Though, it's been several years off air now. If only MGM had some sense, or SyFy had half a brain working as the programming director. Kempo Yellow Belt fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jun 27, 2012 |
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Jun 27, 2012 17:48
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truth masseuse posted:the singing? Are you referring to The Siege? With Teyla singing to the one elder who is dying? It's 'Critical Mass' in Season 2, not The Siege.
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Jun 27, 2012 17:56
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:It's 'Critical Mass' in Season 2, not The Siege. I found that out the hard way a couple of days ago. I knew there was a reason I usually skipped that episode but couldn't remember what it was. Then the singing started.
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Jun 27, 2012 18:23
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Flatscan posted:I found that out the hard way a couple of days ago. I knew there was a reason I usually skipped that episode but couldn't remember what it was. Then the singing started. On the topic of painful episodes to watch, S.5 E.5: "Ghost in the Machine."
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Jun 27, 2012 19:13
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truth masseuse posted:Beckett was a great character. Beckett, I think, was intentionally cast to be a Stargate rendition of McCoy's character from ST:TOS. Are you doing a marathon viewing on Netflix? If so, what Season/Episode are you on now? I'm finishing up my 8th or 9th run through the entire series as I type this. By the end of your first run through, I imagine McKay will be your favorite. It might take a second time around to appreciate the McKay-Sheppard dynamic. Just finished Season 3, about to start 4 tomorrow. I like McKay, and he and Sheppard playing Space Civilisation was fun. The war basically starting over Rodney's people thinking lemons were poison was a good moment. The Flowers for Algernon ep was a good McKay one as well. My favourite moments so far are Beckett moments though. Like when they are going on a suicide mission to destroy a Wraith Hive or something and he's trying to work up the courage to tell McKay and Zelenka that they are his best friends and as he's struggling to get the words out they just tease him until he breaks into tears and runs out the door saying they ruined the moment.
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Jun 27, 2012 20:02
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Pwnstar posted:I'm going through Atlantis for the first time, I just saw the exploding tumours episode. I could tell what was coming the whole time, hoping I was wrong. Beckett was my favourite character too :/ Well good news! It's a sci-fi show.
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Jun 27, 2012 20:05
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Pwnstar posted:I like McKay, and he and Sheppard playing Space Civilisation was fun. The war basically starting over Rodney's people thinking lemons were poison was a good moment. I'm watching that one now and only just realised that the uniforms Sheppard's guys are wearing is a leather and chain version of Sheppard's uniform.
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Jun 27, 2012 20:51
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I like how Zelenka starts babbling in czech whenever he gets upset or excited. Also that one episode where they're all recording messages for home and he just goes on and on essentially recapping everything that has happened in the series, in Czech and then gets asked afterward if any of that was classified information.
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Jun 27, 2012 21:02
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I do not think I've ever seen one positive thing ever said about Teyla in this thread. And the only thing I can think of is that she has a rocking body. Anyone else got anything to add?
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Jun 27, 2012 21:09
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MrBling posted:I like how Zelenka starts babbling in czech whenever he gets upset or excited. "Security clearance?"  Unsurprisingly, someone has gone through the trouble to translate all the Czech lines Radek has outburst. It's on his stargate wiki page: http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Radek_Zelenka truth masseuse posted:I do not think I've ever seen one positive thing ever said about Teyla in this thread. And the only thing I can think of is that she has a rocking body. Anyone else got anything to add? At least she's not Kavanaugh.
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Jun 27, 2012 21:40
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truth masseuse posted:I do not think I've ever seen one positive thing ever said about Teyla in this thread. And the only thing I can think of is that she has a rocking body. Anyone else got anything to add? She was good to have in scenes for exposition purposes. For a lot of the people who had been upset about the lack of feminism in sci-fi, her presence prompted them to say, "Well, if that's the strong female character you're going to give us, just loving forget we ever said anything." I can't quite remember what happened, but I do remember being a bit disgusted with how her pregnancy was integrated into the show: Apparently being pregnant is like being a quadriplegic, pregnancy is shameful, and pregnancy makes you unable to form decisions for yourself which is why a man must make them for you. It was the crushing blow to a character that had been used from the beginning only as a placeholder.
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Jun 27, 2012 21:44
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Noni posted:She was good to have in scenes for exposition purposes. For a lot of the people who had been upset about the lack of feminism in sci-fi, her presence prompted them to say, "Well, if that's the strong female character you're going to give us, just loving forget we ever said anything." At least Teyla never had the reproductive organs speech or that Mongolian episode.
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Jun 27, 2012 21:56
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Teyla got the double whammy of noble savage and token female. MY PEOPLE!
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Jun 27, 2012 22:04
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Noni posted:I can't quite remember what happened, but I do remember being a bit disgusted with how her pregnancy was integrated into the show: Apparently being pregnant is like being a quadriplegic, pregnancy is shameful, and pregnancy makes you unable to form decisions for yourself which is why a man must make them for you. I just saw that episode a day or two ago, and I didn't really read that like that. Then again, I'm not a woman, so maybe I'm not seeing where it would be offensive. The way I saw that wasn't so much that she wasn't able to make decisions or be useful (remember, she did mind control that queen in that one episode while pregnant). It was more that she wanted to go out and be in the line of fire while pregnant, and Sheppard didn't think it was right for her to do that. You can judge that all you want, but I didn't see it as him going "I will think for you, woman" so much and more as him being the team leader making a decision based on what he thought was best. Of course we also got the line "ITHOSIAN WOMAN ARE STILL LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY WELL INTO THEIR PREGNANCY." Which only plays into your earlier point that they went way over the top in the character portrayal. It's bad writing to have a character tell you about their traits. The viewer learns them by their actions. On a related note, the mind-control/communication thing always felt a little shoehorned in to me.
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JetsGuy posted:I just saw that episode a day or two ago, and I didn't really read that like that. Then again, I'm not a woman, so maybe I'm not seeing where it would be offensive. I didn't mean to talk about Sheppard's sexism, but that the writers are to blame for putting Teyla in that stupid position and making her become this uncaring person in disregard for the health of the kid. "I am barbarian. It is a barbarian tradition to be a terrible mother." It was a dumb, sexist, contrived conflict. The writers broke the cardinal rule of pro-feminism characters: Strength is not mutually exclusive from femininity. The episode was literally a choice between strength and motherhood. The choice shouldn't have even existed in the first place, but then the writers threw gas on the fire and had someone else make that decision for her. If the conflict was truly necessary, it should have been only an internal conflict for Teyla. If this scene instead had been about Sheppard carrying around a toddler in a BabyBjorn and unable to leave the kid, then wanting to unnecessarily run out into combat would have made him seem insane. The baby's name is "Strawman Sheppard," by the way.
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JetsGuy posted:On a related note, the mind-control/communication thing always felt a little shoehorned in to me. So did anything involving Dr. Weir and ascension. As I stated a few posts up, S.5 E.5 "Ghost in the Machine" was painful to watch for this reason. Somehow she alone had the knowledge on how to ascend, and could teach the rogue replicators how to do so. This irritated the poo poo out of me. Her reverence for the Ancients was over the top in general. Noni posted:She was good to have in scenes for exposition purposes. For a lot of the people who had been upset about the lack of feminism in sci-fi, her presence prompted them to say, "Well, if that's the strong female character you're going to give us, just loving forget we ever said anything." Lack of feminism in Sci-Fi sounds like a load of poo poo to me. There are many examples in both film and television of strong female characters in Science Fiction. Sigourney Weaver Gillian Anderson Deanna Troi(ST:TNG she'll get in your head, yo) Claudia Christian (Susan Ivanova B5) Kate Mulgrew (ST:VOY Cpt. Janeway) Linda Hamilton (Sarah Connor the original, but I suppose Cersei counts as well) These are just some names that came to mind after a minute or two of thinking. I'm sure I could come up with a dozen or more. Oh, another one Amanda Tapping. Kempo Yellow Belt fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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Noni posted:I didn't mean to talk about Sheppard's sexism, but that the writers are to blame for putting Teyla in that stupid position and making her become this uncaring person in disregard for the health of the kid. "I am barbarian. It is a barbarian tradition to be a terrible mother." I agree 100%.
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truth masseuse posted:Lack of feminism in Sci-Fi sounds like a load of poo poo to me. There are many examples in both film and television of strong female characters in Science Fiction. It's a lot more complicated than this. This list is full of great things, but in another respect, it's great evidence for how far science fiction has to go in actually writing women as human beings. Many of these characters are the solitary prominent female characters in their narratives, and they're defined mostly by their relationships with men. I'll give Ivanova and Janeway a fair bit of credit on this point, though.
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Jun 28, 2012 02:28
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Janeway was so badly written that Kate Mulgrew decided to slip a little crazy into her performance as the years went by, as a way to rationalize the lack of consistency in her character's actions.
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The Dark One posted:Janeway was so badly written that Kate Mulgrew decided to slip a little crazy into her performance as the years went by, as a way to rationalize the lack of consistency in her character's actions. When Kate Mulgrew admitted this, I really gained about a million tons of respect for her.
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Janeway wasn't a feminist character, she was an incompetent, overbearing, irrational shrew. She was the punchline to a joke from a 1970's workingman's club put in charge of a spaceship. And Deanna Troi was a transplanted woman in distress from 50's b-movie scifi. "I have feelings." "My intuition says this..." "My feelings." "Arglebargle mindrape." Lovely Joe Stalin fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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Jun 28, 2012 04:20
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Best Janeway moment is when Q says he will send the entire crew home right away if she will have a baby with him and she declines.
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Pwnstar posted:Best Janeway moment is when Q says he will send the entire crew home right away if she will have a baby with him and she declines. Salamander sex 
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JetsGuy posted:When Kate Mulgrew admitted this, I really gained about a million tons of respect for her. Haha, she did? Any chance someone has a link to that interview?
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Watch, The Captains streaming on Netflix. Two things. 1) Scott Bakula should not be remembered as a Star Trek Captain. Enterprise was a gods drat abortion. 2)Shatner interviewing Kate Mulgrew will surprise you with some of the things she says regarding women in Hollywood, and in leadership positions. e: And Shatner will surprise you with some of the things he says about women. Then again, maybe he wont. ↓↓↓↓ bobkatt013 posted:Is that the one that proves that The Sisko is completely batshit insane? Yes. Avery Brooks is a little quirky. Not sure if he is high, or maybe early-onset dementia of a sort. Also, was a Professor at Rutgers University apparently. Kempo Yellow Belt fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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truth masseuse posted:Watch, The Captains streaming on Netflix. Two things. 1) Scott Bakula should not be remembered as a Star Trek Captain. Enterprise was a gods drat abortion. 2)Shatner interviewing Kate Mulgrew will surprise you with some of the things she says regarding women in Hollywood, and in leadership positions. Season 4 was awesome other then the first episode and the last. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jun 28, 2012 |
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Jun 28, 2012 14:45
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Instant Sunrise posted:At least Teyla never had the reproductive organs speech or that Mongolian episode. Hey, I'll take Tapping cleavage (heh) over Teyla cleavage any day. At least we got fanservice out of the Mongolian episode.
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Jun 28, 2012 16:47
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Effingham posted:Hey, I'll take Tapping cleavage (heh) over Teyla cleavage any day. At least we got fanservice out of the Mongolian episode. Not to mention yak butter.
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Jun 28, 2012 18:36
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There are only two things of worth in that episode (not that) 1. Llamas and the fact that some Goa'uld must have brought them through the Stargate thousands of years ago. 2. Space Genghis Khan seeing what a gun can do then his utter joy when he gets one all of his own. Until it runs out of bullets.
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I still laugh at the fact that that episode had the same writer as TNG's "Code of Honor." THERE SHALL BE NO TREATY, NO VACCINE AND NO LIEUTENANT YAR!
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Jun 28, 2012 19:24
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Pwnstar posted:There are only two things of worth in that episode (not that) Him and his bros oooh and ahhhhing every time he shoots something was priceless.
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Jun 28, 2012 21:21
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Everyone romances Teal'c. I'd buy this graphic novel/FPSRPGMMO
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lovely Treat posted:They still should of made the SGA movie instead though Maybe in 11 days the noise we are hearing about an announcement regarding Stargate will be another movie. Would like another series, but I really doubt that will be it. I would gladly settle with a movie based on SG-1 or SGA. SGA especially, the Wraith could be on their way to the Milky Way as I type this.
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Doubtful since they sold off all the props a while back. Maybe it's that CG cartoon they were talking about.
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Well, I'm totally willing to loan them the SGU uniforms I bought... for science. It's going to be some sort of SG comic I think 
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